October 6, 2019

In Defense of Our Constitution

There are those that would break the law and violate our Constitution, now sitting in the offices of power in Washington, DC.

In doing so, they threaten our national security. They are not protecting our People. It is a very serious matter.

They are all public servants. They work for us, whether or not they know that? They all took the Oath to defend our Constitution. They are breaking their oaths.

The Founders gave us the way to correct our course, if we have the courage and will to do so.

October 6, 2019

What is "black propaganda" - as regards the information fed the public via multiple media means?

I find it very interesting.

I have seen it mentioned a couple of times and it does make one think.

To what extent are the American people being captured in this propaganda tactic?

There is another very interesting thread on this very subject by Asha Rangappa (former FBI Agent, CNN analyst, Lecturer at Yale).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212548797

October 5, 2019

Rubio says: "We're going to wait till we get more facts."

https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ContentRecord_id=354445F8-274A-4D24-8287-ED56BB31E3A2

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Martha MacCallum: “What about what he did admit to — the president. He said yes he did bring up Joe Biden and the possibility of an investigation on the phone with him, and obviously he’s the frontrunner, at least at this point, in the 2020 election. Do you have any problem with him bringing that up with the Prime Minister of Ukraine?”

Rubio: “I don’t think he should’ve done that. And I’ve said that. But that’s not what they’re saying. What I’m hearing voices out there saying is not only did he bring it up, but there was a quid pro quo. Well, there’s no evidence of that. Maybe there will be, but right now there isn’t. Look this is not something you throw around lightly. You know, we’ll see what the facts are. I’m not taking a position one way or the other. The position I’ve taken right now is we want to know facts. We want to see the transcript of that call. We’re going to wait till we get more facts. We have both of those relevant individuals coming in the Intelligence Committee that I sit on and that’s what this should be based on.”

October 5, 2019

Serious question: Can a president be impeached for just being vulgar?

Does a president have to break the law in order to be impeached?

Andrew Johnson was impeached just after the Civil War without any criminal charges that I have read about?

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. He wanted to protect his family. Hillary almost left his butt over that one.

So what are these high standards for Donald Trump? What type of crime must he commit in order to be impeached? Holding up taxpayer dollars that Congress passed for Ukraine, to see if he can make a deal, whereby Ukraine will tear down his political opponent, and then he would release the money so they could protect themselves from an attack from Russian tanks.

Would that not be enough?

Then, produce a partial transcript that President Stable Genius can confess to his wrongdoing. In black and white, in writing, he admitted that he wanted "a favor, though", before he could release the money for the Javelin anti-tank missiles. Putin loved it! He was blowing kisses.

Is that impeachable?

October 5, 2019

If there is a trial in the Senate?

Do both Democrats and Republicans get equal time to make their cases? How would they allot the time between the Parties?

The Chief Justice, not the VP, is the Judge.

Who would represent Trump if it is like a trial?

October 5, 2019

Did the CIA General Counsel send a "criminal referral" to the DOJ?

After the (WB) Whistleblower went to the CIA General Counsel?

I am trying to keep the timeline correct in my head.

Initially, the WB took his complaint to Adam Schiff and the Intel Committee, who steered him to the ICIG, the Intelligence Community Inspector General.

Then, the IG passed it to the CIA General Counsel - who then sent a "criminal referral" to the DOJ?

And the DOJ buried it?

Then, the IG and the (WB) took their complaint to the House Intel Committee?

Did the DOJ try to cover it up ??

Where is this chronology incorrect?

October 5, 2019

Keep investigating...

Until the Republicans cry "Uncle!" or are too embarrassed to defend Mr Trump any further.

We know, and they know, there is a lot more to uncover.

We now hear that another intel person is contemplating whether to file a whistleblower complaint?

That will blow Trump's mind. He hasn't even found the first whistleblower yet. It will deeply disturb his stable genius if another whistleblower comes forward.

When he calls someone a "low-life" and calls an investigation "disgraceful" and a "hoax", you can bet that someone has discovered the truth on him.

My hope is that the Democrats do not think they have to finish this investigation by the end of the year to impeach or not impeach. In what way would it interfere with any candidate's message? What message could they have that is more important than getting rid of Donald Trump?

In my opinion, so long as the Republicans continue to balk, Democrats should continue to investigate. Put the blame right where it belongs - on the backs of the Republicans.

We all want to see Trump impeached as soon as possible. But so long as there is evidence to uncover, they should be in no hurry to impeach. We have waited 3 years. We can wait 3 or 4 months more, in my opinion.

October 5, 2019

How can the Republicans spin the evidence we have seen so far, into a winning message?

...in the next election?

There were many people, and some here, that believed if the Democrats impeached, and the Senate acquitted, it would help Trump in the next election? Does anyone still believe that?

No doubt, the Republicans, and especially Donald Trump, are very good at spinning. How do they spin their way out of this?

In my opinion, the Republicans have looked very scattered and disorganized in the last few days. If there was nothing else to uncover and everything was calm until the next election, then people might forget about what has transpired in the last few days? But, we know that is not going to happen. Chaos and controversy will follow Trump as soon as the sun comes up tomorrow. As soon as he begins tweeting.

The longer this is investigated, the worse it is for Republicans. Democrats do not have to impeach according to some timeline. They can let them stew in their juices, if that is what they desire? They have the facts and the Constitution on their side.

It is the Republicans that are sitting in the hot seat.

October 4, 2019

Questions Republicans are asking their Leaders?

What happens if more and more evidence is uncovered?

What happens to our Party if Trump sinks to 25% in the polls?

How much of a gamble are we all taking by defending Mr Trump?

How do we defend these actions in front of the press and the American people?

What position should we take if we have to face re-election next year?

How bad could it get?

October 4, 2019

The 5 stages of grief include denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

Presently, the GOP is in the stage of denial.

It is going to be a long road for them to heal themselves.