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As God as my witness, I'll never pass up a chance to repost this

From http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/blog/antichrist/

A little context: the cartoonist, Dave Willis, grew up in a strict conservative evangelical household, and Joyce, the little kid/older kid/young woman in this progression, is sort of his alter-ego about how that religious bubble bursts for some people, and of some of the hypocrisies that manifest in the people for whom it doesn't burst.

I think this is a surviving version, the originals lost to defunct websites and linkrot...

Pitt himself was a DU regular back at that time, but he wore out he welcome through abusive behavior and by violating one of the central purposes of this site, "Support Democrats."

But this is from earlier, when he was still doing good work:


One snippet:
Measures taken by the Clinton administration to thwart international terrorism and bin Laden's network were historic, unprecedented and, sadly, not followed up on. Consider the steps offered by Clinton's 1996 omnibus anti-terror legislation, the pricetag for which stood at $1.097 billion. The following is a partial list of the initiatives offered by the Clinton anti-terrorism bill:

Screen Checked Baggage: $91.1 million
Screen Carry-On Baggage: $37.8 million
Passenger Profiling: $10 million
Screener Training: $5.3 million
Screen Passengers (portals) and Document Scanners: $1 million
Deploying Existing Technology to Inspect International Air Cargo: $31.4
Provide Additional Air/Counterterrorism Security: $26.6 million
Explosives Detection Training: $1.8 million
Augment FAA Security Research: $20 million
Customs Service: Explosives and Radiation Detection Equipment at Ports: $2.2 million
Anti-Terrorism Assistance to Foreign Governments: $2 million
Capacity to Collect and Assemble Explosives Data: $2.1 million
Improve Domestic Intelligence: $38.9 million
Critical Incident Response Teams for Post-Blast Deployment: $7.2 million
Additional Security for Federal Facilities: $6.7 million
Firefighter/Emergency Services Financial Assistance: $2.7 million
Public Building and Museum Security: $7.3 million
Improve Technology to Prevent Nuclear Smuggling: $8 million
Critical Incident Response Facility: $2 million
Counter-Terrorism Fund: $35 million
Explosives Intelligence and Support Systems: $14.2 million
Office of Emergency Preparedness: $5.8 million

Animaniacs Trump Cyclops

Steven Spielberg's animated show is back

Sarcasm separated from tone of voice, which is the reality with text, rarely translates well

Especially in a place like DU which is a constant target for RW trolls. Fortunately, DU does have a graphic for that. It helps distinguish genuinely sarcastic remarks from trolls who really believe it.

See the "smilies" button on the reply screen?


Click on it and you'll get a bunch of smiley graphics that can be added to posts. The one for sarcasm is in an expansion to the list. Click the "..." button at the end:


That will open more smilieys. The "sarcasm" one (blood-red dripping letters) is the first one:


Just click on it and it'll appear in your post like : sarcasm : except with no spaces between the colons and the word. After posting it will appear as as:

BTW, welcome to DU

So let's talk about Parler. Where did it come from? (Hint: Roo Sha)

On edit: If you're here to make a quip about how it's pronounced or to scold that talking about it just promotes it, save it. This is about who started it and what their connections are, and those tend to lead in familiar Trumpy directions.


Unrolled thread at ThreadReaderApp: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1327253991936454663.html

So let’s talk about Parler. Where did it come from? Founder John Matze met his now wife, Alina Mukhutdinova, in May 15, 2016 in Las Vegas. Alina is from Kazan, Russia. She was on a two week road trip “vacation” across the USA with a friend.

(This sounds a lot like this USA road trip taken by Anna Bogacheva and Aleksandra Krylova in 2014.) washingtonpost.com/world/europe/r…

John was involved in a couple of unremarkable tech companies with college friend Jared Thomson. After a short stint working at Amazon in Seattle, and being unhappy there, he and Alina return to Vegas and decide to marry. They traveled to Russia in November 2017.

John and Alina were married December 2, 2017 in Kazan, Tatarstan, Russia. They were married in a government facility overseen by Alina’s mother, Gulnara Mukhutdinova, a longtime government functionary. Gulnara’s mother was an “Honored Builder of Russia” in Soviet times.

John and Alina traveled in Russia and in Europe extensively between December and July 2018. They returned to Vegas and launched Parler with Jared Thomson in August 2018. Almost no one joined between August and December 2018; it was in early alpha stages.

Also, a preliminary analysis of the first several thousand accounts on Parler shows that it is the usual Russia aligned operatives that we in this space have tracked for years. This is a large scale op aligned with Russian interests.


More at the link

In 1980 I was still a little short of voting age...

I grew up in a conservative household (of the Bill Buckley fan variety), but that influence always ran up against my sense of fairness. And one of my first political epiphanies was that was that communists weren't the big threat to this country, because too many people couldn't get on board with it. The real danger was the fanatical anti-communists, because they lumped everything they didn't like into "communism". They were the ones who really had the ability to bait-and-switch people, to get them supporting an agenda that was a lot more radical than they realized.

I contend that the past 40 years have proven my youthful insight correct.

Plus, I was a complete science nerd. Once he played footsie with creationists, he'd burned any "charm" he might have had with me.

That's what puts it in the same category as George Will commenting on Reagan's...

...debate performance without disclosing that he had participated with Reagan's debate prep, taking the role of Carter in mock debates.

Well, maybe not same category. Will was worse by not mentioning that Reagan's people had gotten ahold of a copy of Carter's debate-prep book, so they knew what sort of arguments Carter would make.

Those are the sort of comments we need to record and use in ads against them...

...especially in areas of right-wing Catholics (especially including the Cubans and other conservative Hispanic groups).

Get Republicans on record being asked "Are Catholics Christians?" so they either say yes and piss off anti-Catholic evangelicals or say no (or just hedge) and piss off Catholics.

This is what conservatives did back in the 70s and 80s: Find a couple of hot-button issues to promote (e.g., guns and abortion) and get people to single-issue vote on them to pry apart Union and ethnic voting blocs. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

Rubin: Time to confront the right-wing myth-makers


Opinion by Jennifer Rubin
November 6, 2020 at 7:45 a.m. EST

Many in the right-wing media bubble are marooned in a weird time warp in which the “other side” is some Cold War-era Marxist caricature. (Hence, the infatuation with the word “socialist." ) But there is also a jaw-dropping, willful blindness about U.S. history and race that allows Trumpian media personalities to exempt anyone from the charge of white supremacy unless they don a robe and hood. These opinion-makers and politicians have imbibed an unhealthy dose of authoritarianism and self-satisfaction with the status quo to the exclusion of concern for social justice, tolerance, freedom, equality and inclusion. Wittingly or not, they are the quintessential defenders of white supremacy, in which challenges to authority are painted as extreme and dangerous.

Mix in a heap of White evangelical Christians’ sense of victimhood (for whom no legal accommodation of religious liberty is sufficient), and you get a writhing right-wing culture that feels justified in its intellectual dishonesty. It is more than willing to recklessly dispense whatever snippets of information advance its philosophy with little regard for the source’s credibility. The results are injurious to our democracy and often even to the right wing’s stated values (e.g., capitalism, family integrity).


What do we do about this phenomenon? Appealing to the better angels of their nature seems like weak tea. Instead, we need steady determination to rebuke falsehoods at every turn and drain the myth-makers of some of their effectiveness. Some public-spirited billionaires’ investment in media outlets — not to change their ideological outlook, but to insist on strict adherence to reality — would be welcome. A willingness to debunk right-wing dishonesty on its own turf (God bless former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg for going on Fox News) might also help. (Disclosure: I’m a contributor for MSNBC.) And, sometimes, an intervention comes from within, as when numerous reporters and editors at the Wall Street Journal revolted against the editorial page’s proclivity to play fast and loose with facts. There are also heroic efforts among NeverTrumpers, such as the team at the Bulwark, to take on purveyors of right-wing lies and nonsense.


We have seen one painful consequence of this intellectual dishonesty: Millions of Americans are convinced to put themselves at risk of contracting a deadly disease rather than listen to fact-based “elites.” Many have died as a result, and self-governance has been weakened. The sooner we confront the right-wing myth-making industry, the better.

Although I do feel the need to point out that absolutely none of this is new to us liberals who saw these points coming together over the last several decades, but were dismissed as "too shrill" and "radical leftists" by people who needed Trump to yank the scales from their eyes.

Can we have some rich Democrats support an actually-liberal media?

He's A Loser

Original version by real band here:

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