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Shitler is *NOT* America!

This is not news to us here, but my point is that the SHITLER mobster personal loyalty concept is filtered down to my lowly level.

There is this go-to grocery chain of the regional variety, everybody goes there. So a month or two ago I was accosted by a MAGAt kid in the cap with his girlfriend, early 20s, with the thank-you-for-your-service (tyfys) handshake thing. He averted his profile to hide the logo, but I twisted my head around till I saw it and then said, "No, suh!1"

(I wear my ship's ballcap everywhere because it's MINE, and I know it opens me up to being accosted, but I refuse to be bullied out of wearing MY ship's cap. If I sense sincerity, I just acknowledge and move on. If I sense wingnuttiness, I refuse it.)

So today, same store location. A dude in his 30s rushed up to me with the tyfys thing, and wearing a (SHITLER)2020 cap, brand new and shiny, sticking out his hand. I said, "No TRUMPs around me!" And moved along. He yelled after me, "No AMERICA around you!" I yelled back, "No TRUMPS around me!"

********I wasn't prepared for the equalizing of SHITLER with America, down at this level on the street. We all hear it from SHITLER and his closest flying monkeys on the t.v. yak shows, but it's on my STREET. That's how far down it has penetrated.

I'll be ready the next time, to say Shitler-TRAITOR-to-America and/or SHITLER DISHONORS VETERANS.








E-mail to the local radio talk show wingnut - his employee evaluation:

• Every time you & your co-wingnuts have mentioned a certain Democratic candidate, you have brought up that he married a very rich wife, that nobody should "feel sorry" for him because he’s got Wife Money, that the ONLY thing that fascinates you is that he married into a very rich family. Really, this pricks my curiosity “big time” (to use a CHEENEE-ism) – Why doesn’t wealth come up in any of your references to any of the BUSHes with their inherited and government subsidized wealth, CHEENEE’s war pillaging via the military-industrial complex (Halliburton/Iraq), and all Repuke corporate subsidies (farm/non-growing-crops for cash), Brown & Root in Vietnam, or any other Fat Cat Repuke?

• Regarding SHITLER, you often say he’s personally icky in the way of “causing his own problems,” yet your bottom line is that nothing he has done is THAT bad to warrant impeachment. You know that we can all scribble a laundry list of all the SERIOUS crap he has done daily – above all sidling up to all the dictators and wrecking our national interests and assaulting our democracy, but also all the “lesser” things of insulting and denigrating all constituent groups (veterans, Intelligence and State dept employees, persons based on race/ethnicity/disability, EVERYBODY), alienating ALLIES, non-performance of duty instead of putting the country ahead of his greed and neediness.

Yet, you say you don’t see THAT BIG A DEAL in anything he has done to warrant impeachment or whatever, beyond how he personally just rubs everybody the wrong way. WHAT, exactly does it take, for you? Every mention you make about Hillary drips with venom, despite your ZERO list of specific things of what you detest, what threat she has posed to the country. So, what is it that you justify keeping/justifying/defending this mobster? Really, WHAT? You did the same thing in 2003, swallowing every weekly “reason” Shrub-CHEENEE put out there for invading the wrong country (He threatened my dad; he’s got WMD; wah wah wah).

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Tweety's celebrating his 20th with celebrity tributes. Here's my 20th non-celeb, not hearsay.

I'll just say again what an astute DUer (& there are many) said: "When Tweety is on our side, there's nobody better."
The key word is: *WHEN* (I say).


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Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first three or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade of hair coloring he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".

   Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate. 

His Misogyny.  Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Back when, misogyny was a wink-wink/smirk-smirk thing among the old style flunkies like him, there were many examples of his, with HRC being his prime target for years until she was becoming a real contender, when he yearned to host her, but the bridges had been burned. 
But here's a vignette from back in the day, regarding his wife Kathleen. He deigned to host her or let her co-host a segment or so, this time with him and another recycled miscreant Mike BARNICLE. She was standing like at the front of a class and they two were sitting like the smirking, spit-balling, Catholic schoolboy-jerks that they really are. She trudged through her presentation, taking her subject seriously while the two of them smirked, giggled, and mocked all the way. But regarding Kathleen, he exemplifies one signature characteristic of misogynists: Despite the obviously hostile behaviors, they claim to adore, honor, put-on-a-pedestal women. And Tweety frequently does that over-compensating, protests-too-much thing by referring to her as, "MY QUEEN." 

*************So flash forward decades to the TWITLER atrocious era, specifically calling Senator WARREN “Pocahontas.” Tweety hosted her soon after a TWITLER episode of it, besides a manic outburst of his sputtering interrupting, almost giggling every time he said that name, catching himself each time then protesting that it was a horrible thing, like Beavis/Butthead giggling at a dirty word. So WARREN kept to the high road and that TWITLER was not going to silence her. So then he struck, like when he lashed out at DONAHUE. He was in bursting giggle mode and said, "So, for you 'Pocahontas' will be like a clarion call for you to come charging out!1" and he busted his gut. WARREN looked sucker punched.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the ... FIFTY ... people who watch this show...” (Hardball, not SNL). In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself -- manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.  

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized by the Liberal Elite, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, promenading arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime around 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.  Throughout the year of Campaign 2000 he savaged the Dem candidate daily and went on to years of bromance over Shrub, renouncing any Democratic heritage.  He said his parents were “cloth coat" (Rethugs), and that basically what first drew him to the Dem side was Irish-Catholic pride over JFK.  Not ideology, not idealism.  He said the reason he joined the Peace Corps was specifically to avoid going to Vietnam. 

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" -- an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby" ). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's MSNBC show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around the audience, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind, kneejerk jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see, THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with YOU Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil, devastated and spent, was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???!" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect. 

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody, with the insinuation that there was a CLINTON connection. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it (Name/Surname)?" She wouldn’t confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger named by Tweety, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident. 

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned to Africa in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL had passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.  

But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY".  But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm /... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."

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Fearless Girl vs bull. Fearless Woman vs bully. Just me, really?!1



5 YouTubes 5 - Tweety contempt for DONAHUE, MSNBC firing D. for being anti-Iraq attack

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Jon STEWART. Who wouldn't pick him vs Rand PAUL or any wingnut? However:

My questions, what *is* he, a Third Wayer, a kumbaya type, or what the heck?

Me, not being "up" on any latest thing, when I first knew of him I took him as a brilliant Lib comic. The little I saw, I took it fine when he occasionally sniped at Libs as well as wingnuts, like, comedians snipe at both sides, fine.

Then I got puzzled, when he guested on the old CNN show Crossfire and blew it up, with a rant about how they were demolishing the country with their fighting (Robert NOVAKula vs who/some namby pamby Lib, Bill PRESS? ), and then CNN cancelled it.

I didn't know where he was coming from.

Then in the Glenn BecKKK era with the weeping-wingnut alternating taking a crap on Libs then wailing about being sorry about dividing the country, BecKKK held a revival meeting in D.C. (think, MLK) where he convened all the wingnuts for their KKK-whatever thingamajig. But then STEWART convened what was supposed to be the Lib counter-rally ----------- fine with me. But STEWART's event turned out to be a pseudo-Hippie/RennaisanceFair type of thing, with balloons and soap bubbles and the MythBuster jerks and - BOTH of the BecKKK *and* STEWART attendees were pissed because neither "side" was ideological combat, just a mishmash of crap. Bill MAHER said about STEWART, "If you're going to have an event it needs to be ABOUT something."

Then, it really pissed me off when STEWART "reached out" to Bill O'LOOFAH, wanting to get along, wanting to "communicate" - CRAP.

So now, who can gig STEWART for taking on the cause of 9-11 First Responders. But STEWART is not mine. Give me COLBERT any time.

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https://news.yahoo.com/jon-stewart-eviscerates-rand-paul-230017159.html
Jon Stewart Eviscerates Rand Paul for Blocking 9/11 Victim Funding: ‘It’s an Abomination’


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About STEWART: If he scores for the victims & against Turtle, fine. But he lost me years ago.

When I first became aware of him, I accepted him as one of ours, wasn't particularly a fan of his humor.

Then I was *NON PLUSSED* when he went on CNN's Crossfire and ranted against the format, about how the Lib/Wingnut format was "DIVIDING" us, and then CNN cancelled it. I just didn't know what to think.

Then, what tore it for me was when he did his reaching out to the loathesome Glen BECkkk, who had staged a circus in D.C., with STEWART doing a "reaching out" counter event that was a pitiful post-Hippie crapfest like a Flower Child thing featuring the MythBuster dweebs, plus whatever soap bubble blowing festival crap. It was supposed to counter BecKKK, but was just stupid. As Bill MAHER said about STEWART, "If you're going to have an event, it needs to be ABOUT something."

But what finally tore it for me was when he subsequently went on to "reach out" to O'REILLY, about we should all get along. Third Way CRAP.

I still idolize COLBERT, despite how he went along with the "festival" with STEWART. But STEWART is dead to me.

I don't even care to get to the bottom of whatever his philosophy is and just *GAG* whenever he does his preaching thing on how we should get along or in this case his holier than thou/ higher ground cause is.















Yes, *BUT*. Divisiveness, playing us against one another, attacking fellow Dems more than wingnuts

is what the wider issue is (separate from the O.P.'s topic), affecting us DUers in general.

The Democratic party, reflected? in DU, is a coalition. Each component group (like the DU "Group" design) has its own #1 agenda item. Down below that specific identity item, each coalition group unites with all the other groups on the Democratic coalition's universal items: Civil rights, social justice, civil liberties, stewardship of the planet.

Very common is for the #1 agenda items of coalition groups to clash: Viz., Unions vs NAFTA-ites (free trade?). (If I have wrong specifics, please don't derail my point, thanks. )

Over 19 DU years, most of us here have learned more, evolved more, adapted more to things we refined despite our having been wonderful, decent humans to start with, been educated in our innocence of ways of thinking we weren't aware of before. And there is always room for improvement.

*BUT* the circular firing squad - attacking fellow Dems for not being evolved enough, targeting fellow DUers more than Deplorables, radical PC-ism - is nothing else than bullyism.

Also the "convert"/zealotry syndrome is a real thing: I have a cousin whose son is an Out Gay, and his mother/my cousin went on a rampage against the large extended family, demanding not just acceptance but also ferociously demanding proselytizing from everybody and vehemently castigating any family who didn't become a single-minded activist on her son's topic.

This thread is a Group-specific topic, fine. But nearly all DUers agree with the subject and don't deserve to be attacked or to make one Group better than all others - OR to be Alerted on for PC deficiencies.






What's wrong with the Classics Dept? - viz., Victor Davis HANSON. (Not NIETZSCHE)

NIETZSCHE was a Classics scholar, but his stuff was appropriated and twisted by his ignorant sister and the SHITLERs of that day, so am exempting him from the question in the Subject.

Remember Shrub, CHEENEE, Darth Rums and their Iraq Attack? How it was on their wish list long before they got lucky and took an unrelated opportunity to launch it? How they went on a binge of dreaming up one new "reason" to justify it just about every week, looking for one that would be the magic button to rouse the country - like, "He tried to kill my daddy!1" or WMD or noo-ku-lar cloud?!1

Well, in that period of, um, creativity, somebody brought one Victor Davis HANSON to CHEENEE's attention, this Classics scholar, author, and professor, who met with CHEENEE and gave him a personal crash course in Ancient Greek politics and warfare and then became the emblem of "respectability" for the plot. But unlike the dupes of Colon "My Lai" POWELL and maybe Condo RICE, this Professor HANSON appears to be a gung ho hoplite - well, the professor wouldn't be a mere infantryman, so what would their leader be called?

His message for CHEENEE's use was something like, a nation needs Perpetual War to keep the populace fired up, a threat from the outside all the time to keep the blood, er, pumping. I'm sure somebody can fill in my simplification.

So with our current SHITLER situation, in which he hasn't hit upon the *war* angle to help him - so far - I had relegated HANSON to that other ancient history, but imagine my surprise to look at my daily gossip tabloid (yes, a MURDOCH property - Page Six and the prior old gossip crew got me there) only to find HANSON with an "Opinion" piece spewing his rationale that just about all of the presidents, especially the Democratic ones, were every bit just as bad behaving or worse than SHITLER. Gawrsh, did you know that HST had a *TEMPER* and that if he had Twitter he would be Twittering every bit like SHITLER?!1

I have not read his books, certainly not his (column?) in some wingnut outlet, but what little I have spelled out as my knowing here has to do with WAR, so now this piece about SHITLER is a turn in his road, showing that he is more than just a high minded philosopher, but rather a willing hoplite in the CAUSE OF SHITLER PERSONALLY.

I thought about not linking to this a-hole and just leaving a clue for looking it up, but we're adults, so just be warned that wingnut crap is linked below for each to click or not, and that a free thinking adult will not be turned to stone at an opposing opinion.

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Democratic presidents behaved a lot worse than Trump in the White House
By Victor Davis Hanson March 9, 2019 | 11:33am | Updated


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Seems like something needs clearing up: Dem party is a coalition, party bigger than the parts

Each of us probably has membership in a "home" facet of the coalition: Racial/ethnic, gender, social/civil/economic justice, environmental, et al. - each sub-set with their individual #1 agenda item, but below that one, it's all subsumed with all the rights issues we all have in common.

I will say that in our current iteration of being divided among ourselves it appears that in the foreground among some of us is individual loyalty to our own sub-group, precedence over our ultimate unity to the coalition.

Iow, if a member in my own smaller sub-group gets accused of whatever criminal or other wrong-doing, the accusations being true, that fellow member of mine is dead to me. They lose all claim to the "Democratic" label.

Remember when there was "an abortion doctor" who committed crimes of death of both women and/or their newborns? The wingnut outlets kept labeling him as an "abortion doctor" as their usual way of denigrating Pro-Choice. I say now as then that he was neither a doctor nor performing abortions: He was simply a serial killer who used medical techniques as his m.o. of choice. It had nothing to do with his being supposedly a member of the Democratic coalition, nothing to do with "pro-Choice" or of whatever race or ethnicity usually associated with the Dem coalition.

Iow (again), if a member of whatever sub-group of the Dem coalition commits crimes or malfeasance, that person is on their own. If somebody doesn't "get" what I'm saying, please just pass on by.






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