With apologies to the Pep Boys (Manny, Moe, & Jack) - Fatty, Blow, and Jerk.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer" guy.

One of 'em (rudy giuliani) announced he was divorcing his wife ON TELEVISION, before he ever bothered to tell her. AND he moved his then-mistress into the Mayor's mansion WHILE his wife was still living there, with their under-age son. She was Donna Hanover and she was publicly humiliated, because she was a local TV personality - so everybody in New York knew who she was, in her own right, as well as the wife of the mayor.

The other of 'em (ol' newty) had the "elegance" and "class" to deliver divorce papers to her while she was in the hospital as a cancer patient. I remember reading how he allegedly told her he needed someone better-looking and "more presidential-looking" on his arm than she was.

Utter CADS, both these vile weasels. No wonder they're both working together, side-by-side, on behalf of yet another weasel. The three of 'em belong together. Three Blind Lice.

Don't know if she meant that as some of us would interpret it to mean, but Ivana was a smart woman.

How Tiffany was either positioned behind the "A-team" or off at one end of the group of people. Harry Truman once said you should NEVER stand at either end of a group of people for a photo. If the photo has to be cropped to fit, guess who gets cut out?

Okay, we're getting kinda personal here, but I would like to put this on the record, in case there are any younger women struggling with date/mate choices who might read this or someone here who did feels like it might be relevant to pass along.

He jumped more hurdles than just this one, but this one was KEY. Seems to me it tells a woman more - of the seriously significant things that really count - about a potential male partner than anything else. It's a challenge and a metaphor.

I didn't have that many lovers as a young woman. A few. But I put every one of them through "the condom test." I'd make that clear, at the point in the relationship where the activity or discussion started leaning toward sex. The deal was - I've learned I cannot handle "the Pill." My body and my mental equilibrium both go completely haywire. So if I was ever gonna have "fun", it would fall to my partner to handle this aspect of it. I was willing to explore pretty much any kind of "fun" but he'd have to provide the protection. If he was willing, as Hillary did during the debate, "WHOA! OKAY!" Shimmy-shimmy-shimmy-shimmy! If he wasn't, Buh-BYE. If he was willing, that told me he was far more likely to be generous and thoughtful and unselfish and considerate of other things that were also important to me, and he would make room in his agenda for me and mine. He would accommodate my wishes, needs, or concerns or my view of things. Any guy who refused or gave me an "I don't do that" told me that in other situations, it'd be all about him, my needs or concerns need not apply - and there'd be little sensitivity or thoughtfulness about taking what I wanted or needed into consideration. And it's hard to build a life together with somebody who's like that - if what you want is an equal, shared, hand-in-hand life-partnership.

I was surprised to see how much willingness there was. How there were a few who were happy to cooperate. I wasn't surprised by some others who just couldn't "lower" or "inconvenience" themselves because they had to be able to "feel it". Well, what about me? Where do I fit in there? I guess I don't. So okay for you, dude. Go be Donald Trump or something. My guy was SUPER eager to please in this regard, and he practically raided the drug store for a variety of - uh - samples to bring to the - uh - table, shall we say?

It's like having your own "Sorting Hat", with apologies to Harry Potter. The guy who says "yes" to this is WELL WORTH KEEPING - maybe even longterm! The guy who is unwilling - buh-BYE. You're too full of yourself and you just proved that there's no room in there for me.

My guy and I marked Year 40 together, a few months back, btw. It's still workin'!

If you google their names, their Twitter handles will come up. If they don't automatically, just google his/her name AND the word Twitter and it will definitely come up.

Gets it on the record, and in front of others' eyes. ESPECIALLY if you add some other on-air person's Twitter handle, too. Then THEY'LL see it on their page also!

My husband is a remarkable feminist, and has been from the time I met him back in college. He is very highly evolved. Sounds like you are, too!

And how are those described here, whose outward observable behavior is this kind of shit, how are THEY not "deplorables"?

I think it IS, and they ARE.

They simply go out, quietly rolling up their sleeves, grab hammer and nails, and do the work of the saints. With no pizazz, no press and publicity, no spinners and PR agents, no cameras and/or microphones.

I keep flashing back to that Scripture passage where Jesus recommends going behind closed doors by yourself to pray, where no one can see or hear you (except God). What NOT to do is parade down the center aisle or out in public so everybody can see how "wonderful" or "generous" or "saintly" you are. I think Jesus said - well, THAT'S your reward, right there. The REAL reward that counts, Upstairs, you just blew off.

Putting Prayer in Its Place

Jesus’ instruction on prayer in Matthew begins this way:

“Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you” (Matthew 6:5-6).

Jesus develops two basic kinds of prayer. The first is “showcase prayer” by which the person praying actually draws attention to himself. He wants to be known as spiritual and holy. His religion gives him status, and by public prayer, he maintains and feeds it. The second kind of prayer is “relational prayer.” This is prayer that seeks time with the Father. Jesus, for teaching purposes, draws a distinct line between the two, but we must acknowledge that most people will fall somewhere between the two extremes. It is also important to understand that no one can read the mind and intentions of another heart. What might seem to be the height of arrogance may only reflect upbringing. Or gentle, quiet prayers may come from one who has no private prayer life at all. Jesus’ instructions are for us to know and personally apply His words and to let the Holy Spirit guide and train our hearts in these matters.

https://bible.org/seriespage/18-jesus-prayer-matthew-65-15