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You're assuming putting one elected guy on top of Godzilla...

can stop the monster's long march to permanent global war and national security totalitarianism.

There's too much money in the machinery that exists to kill and control, too much incentive to figure out reasons to justify it. This is done by manufacturing enemies and creating instability, and by finding ways ostensibly to make the killing more efficient. Then this has to be justified. If you develop drones that can supposedly kill single bad guys for billions of dollars, then you must use these. It's a whole ecology of wrong.

It can be stopped, but not by adopting the empty "bipartisan" rhetoric that concedes all the false assumptions about national interests and threats, and that honors service to imperialism as though it has anything to do with "defense." It has to be challenged as a whole, with the aim of establishing peace and civilization in the world. "Viable" presidential candidates don't do that, so this is one of the many parts of the game fixed by the system.

This is not a news story. This thread should be moved to GD.

Anything that refers to the elected president of a constitutional democracy as a "dictator" is an editorial. It may contain news, but it is propaganda by definition. Doesn't matter who wrote it or where it appeared. This should not be in LBN. Our local dispensers of anti-Chavez hate speech should not be allowed to abuse the LBN rules like this.

Your choice of adjectives does not change the truth: Israel is a danger to world peace.

The rogue state of Israel flouts international law with its settlements on occupied territory and many atrocities committed against the captive people of the Palestinian territories. Unlike Iran, Israel has started wars on its neighbors several times. The Israeli government regularly threatens to launch an unprovoked war on Iran. Israel possesses 150-400 nuclear weapons, depending on the estimate. It does not allow international inspections of its program (unlike Iran) and is not a signatory to the NPT. Given its history of aggression, Israel presents the world's greatest threat by far to engage in first use of nuclear weapons. Even if it had a nuclear weapon, Iran would never assure its own immediate total destruction through first use. All this is elementary and known to the world, and disputed seriously only within the bizarre bubble of American politics.

Maybe, but who says it would have been the murderer?

You're not right on this. The Etan Patz disappearance was a very big deal in New York and the cops absolutely wanted to close the case.

As they are trying to do now, on the basis of a confession that is prima facie dubious. They made a big deal in recent weeks about searching someone else's basement, and found nothing.

Then a dying, mentally ill man steps forward with an unsolicited confession and it's hey ho! Case closed!

Vote Commissioner Kelly for Mayor in 2013!

(He dumped the body in a box - or plastic bag - on the street? And then it was gone?)


He didn't legalize gay marriage, but he took a stand and it makes a difference. Why doesn't he take a stand on marijuana?

If he'd been stopped, frisked and arrested just once when he was 20, no one today would know his name. Think about it!

At the Americas conference he stood tall for the insane Drug War against almost every head of state on two continents. The world is starting to wake up from the nightmare of drug prohibition, but the US remains at the lead.

Nothing is stopping him from speaking truth about an insane policy with horrific consequences for millions of people.

Federal law enforcement is a question of priorities. They're going after pot plants and doing nothing about the banksters who raped the world. (Schneiderman's crack team is now up to 65 members - compared to 1000 financial fraud investigators just for the S&L scandals of the Reagan years.)

Policy, budgets, foreign policy, regulatory implementation -- the White House has enormous impact on all, and these are all related to the drug issue. As if you need to be informed of this. (As soon as something good happens somewhere, it will be Obama's credit, but when something within his purview is fucked up, he can't do anything about it.)

No cheap excuses! Lives are being lost and destroyed every day. This is a real war with real victims, and unfortunately Obama has chosen to remain its commander in chief.

Remember the troops who helped end the US genocide in Vietnam

The antiwar movement of the Vietnam era represented a real domestic opposition inside the aggressor country. And they absolutely contributed to the outcome of the US invasion of Vietnam, mainly by the indirect means of sucessfully winning over enough of the GIs to make the prosecution of the war untenable on the ground. The antiwar movement infected the draftees as well as the enlisted army. After the Tet offensive soldiers began to engage in mass noncompliance and by the Pentagon's numbers they also killed 500 of their own officers in the decisive 1969-70 period. After that Nixon escalated carpet bombings and "Vietnamization," committing an even greater genocide just to save imperialist face. It fell short of a full mutiny, but too many of the US soldiers were no longer willing to take the field and the combat forces were drawn down by 1973.

You can be certain that if there had been sufficient domestic support for a course of further escalation, the USG would not have backed down even by that tortuously slow and murderous timetable. The USG would have sent a million troops. They would have bombed the dikes to drown millions of people in northern Vietnam. They might have even been willing to use nuclear weapons to avoid what they regarded as an apocalyptic loss to Communism.

The Vietnamese people won the war against the foreign invaders, and paid for it with millions of lives lost and people maimed, and decades of national devastation, but the domestic US resistance was the decisive factor in setting the limits on what the near-psychotic USG was willing to try. Again, above all by winning over enough of the army.

EVERYONE should see this incredible documentary:



An excellent sequence deals with the construction of the myth of the hippie woman who spat on a returning veterans. More likely she was dancing with them in antiwar cafes - in the middle of Texas, even.

Since then a lot of domestic propaganda-war effort has gone into constructing the myth that the antiwar movement had no impact and was just "a bunch of hippies," that a shift in opinion among the geostrategists and the revolt of the domestic manufacturing capitalists were the only decisive factor, or that the US lost on military terms (as though the USG would not have been willing to escalate the carnage on the ground). The Rambo mythology arose to re-legitimize foreign wars. The difference today is a volunteer army, most of them with several layers of technology shielding them from ground combat. And even so, there are resisters and veterans against the war...

Support The Troops

On Sunday, veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, as well as members of Afghans for Peace, led a peace march of thousands of people. Iraq Veterans Against the War held a ceremony where nearly 50 veterans discarded their war medals by hurling them down the street in the direction of the NATO summit. We hear the soldiersí voices as they return their medals one by one from the stage. "Iím here to return my Global War on Terror Service Medal in solidarity with the people of Iraq and the people of Afghanistan," said Jason Hurd, a former combat medic who spent 10 years in the U.S. Army. "I am deeply sorry for the destruction that we have caused in those countries and around the globe."

From http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/21/no_nato_no_war_us_veterans#transcript

These are the troops I support.

These are the troops who truly serve their country.

These are the ones who are (now) doing the right thing.

On the video from Democracy Now! last Monday, at http://dncdn.dvlabs.com/ipod/dn2012-0521.mp4, starting at about 9:20 you can see 22 of these brave veterans doing the right thing, and taking the fight to the real terrorists.

I'd love to quote them all, since this was a public street event and an important part of our history. But just to be sure I'll stick to the four-paragraph rule here and urge you to follow the link to see the full coverage, with transcript.

SHAWNA FOSTER: My name is Shawna, and I was a nuclear biological chemical specialist for a war that didnít have any weapons of mass destruction. So I deserted. Iím one of 40,000 people that left the United States Armed Forces because this is a lie!

VINCE EMANUELE: My name is Vince Emanuele, and I served with the United States Marine Corps. First and foremost, this is for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. Second of all, this is for our real forefathers. Iím talking about the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. Iím talking about the Black Panthers. Iím talking about the civil rights movement. Iím talking about unions. Iím talking about our socialist brothers and sisters, our communist brothers and sisters, our anarchist brothers and sisters, and our ecology brothers and sisters. Thatís who our real forefathers are. And lastlyóand lastly and most importantly, our enemies are not 7,000 miles from home. They sit in boardrooms. They are CEOs. They are bankers. They are hedge fund managers. They do not live 7,000 miles from home. Our enemies are right here, and we look at them every day. They are not the men and women who are standing on this police line. They are the millionaires and billionaires who control this planet, and weíve had enough of it. So they can take their medals back.

AARON HUGHES: My name is Aaron Hughes. I served in the Illinois Army National Guard from 2000 and 2006. This medal right here is for Anthony Wagner. He died last year. This medal right here is for the one-third of the women in the military that are sexually assaulted by their peers. We talk about standing up for our sistersówe talk about standing up for our sisters in Afghanistan, and we canít even take care of our sisters here. And this medal right here is because Iím sorry. Iím sorry to all of you. Iím sorry.


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Entirely possible it will go even higher. So? What will it prove?

It's still a beachball at a college football game. Its altitude has nothing to do with underlying value. It will be one of those "it" stocks that people love for high volume and constant volatility. Among all the trader-addicts large and small, who doesn't hope to take a 10 percent ride every day? You may think it's the next Apple, but it looks more like all the bullshit dot-coms of a decade ago. An eminently replaceable social media platform that will peak in membership and has tiny earnings for the market value. If they add too many ads, people will start to leave. If people start to feel uneasy about how they're using all the data, it could avalanche. One minor Zuckerberg sex scandal could sink it overnight. Remember myspace, etc. etc. On the other hand, they now have enormous resources, so if they get lucky and buy just the right start-ups, they might end up having a real company out of this. But right now Facebook has all the potentials of AOL valued above the level of Time-Warner, if you remember.

And you're right, this is how the market "should" work, from the perspective of its makers: they pump, they dump, and they eat most of the little suckers on the way up and down. Everyone's fully distracted by a complete bullshit story (Facebook stands in for the health of capitalism, or America). Millions of idiots think they're going to stay ahead of high-volume super-fast traders in a rigged game. Until the inevitable next clean-out. This is what the market is. Since when do the banks and funds and underwriters who make the market believe in the bullshit you're saying about "it should take a year or 2 to make 10%." To them, anyone who thinks that way is a loser. Insufficiently sociopathic. A worthy target. Plunder them and laugh. It's the will of evolution. Insert Michael Douglas/Alec Baldwin speech. Etc. etc.

Make fun of made-up gulags, but ignore the real ones in your own state.

The United States is home to the world's largest prison-industrial complex, providing near wage-free labor to private businesses, with many of the prisons themselves privately owned. While the penal institution complex may have finally peaked, the overall incarceration number continues to grow as tens of thousands are now detained by the immigration authorities. Adding a few thousand political prisoners a month - they would surely be called "terrorists" - would represent a growth in the gulag system, not the creation of one, and it would be located at prisons and jails and detention camps already operating in every state of the nation.
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