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I don't know where you got your numbers from, but they're off.


Hillary Clinton received the 3rd largest popular vote in American history.
She received more popular votes than any other WHITE MALE candidate in American history.

More than GW Bush
More than Bill Clinton
More than GHW Bush
More than Ronald Reagan
More than John Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln.

She received 3,653,906 less votes than Barack Obama did in 2008, an historical Presidential election.
Hillary Clinton received 71,185 less votes than Barack Obama did in his 2nd election in 2012.

Voter turnout was not abysmal. It also was the 2nd highest number of voter participation for the two major candidates.
2008---129.5 million
2012---126.8 million
2016---128.8 million

If you're talking about rate of participation, here's an article

New report finds that voter turnout in 2016 topped 2012
BY REID WILSON - 03/16/17 03:00 AM EDT

More voters cast ballots in Novemberís elections than when President Obama won reelection in 2012, though the number of Americans who showed up to vote remains well below all-time highs set half a century ago.

About 139 million Americans, or 60.2 percent of the voting-eligible population, cast a ballot in Novemberís elections, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project. That compares with 58.6 percent of eligible voters who turned out in 2012, but itís below the 62.2 percent who turned out to help elect Obama for the first time in 2008.

Last year, President Trump won just shy of 63 million votes ó enough to secure a majority of the Electoral College, even though he fell almost 3 million votes shy of his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.

The states where Trump and Clinton battled most fiercely also tended to be those where voter turnout was highest. Nine of the 13 states where voter turnout was highest were battleground states.

Voter turnout in 2016 was the second-highest in the past half-century, after the 62.2 percent who turned out in 2008. Voter turnout topped 62 percent in all three presidential contests held in the 1960s, the most recent surge in voter participation.

Voter turnout most recently topped 65 percent in 1908, though among a much smaller population: Women did not get the right to vote until 1920.


Having posted all of the above, I am not denying the HRC Campaign may have made some tactical errors, particularly where she campaigned. But it's time to look forward not back. Enough with the Hillary bashing and the attempts to divide Democrats, Liberals and Progressives, whatever they want to call themselves. We have three objectives, to take over the House and Senate in 2018 and the White House in 2020. That's it. We can only do that if we're united. Look forward not back.
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