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NYPD hit their target only 18% of the time. Avoiding hitting innocent bystanders not that easy

Note: This article is from 2013 but there is nothing to indicate their accuracy has gone up since then.

Ready, Fire, Aim: The Science Behind Police Shooting Bystanders
A Saturday incident in Times Square showed yet again that even highly trained police are not always accurate marksmen

Snip> On Saturday night in New York City’s Times Square, police opened fire on a man who was walking erratically into oncoming traffic and, when approached by law enforcement, reached into his pocket as if he were grabbing a weapon. The officers fired three shots. One hit a 54-year-old woman in the knee and another grazed a 35-year-old woman’s buttocks. None hit the suspect, whom police subsequently subdued with a taser.

Snip> According to a 2008 RAND Corporation study evaluating the New York Police Department’s firearm training, between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate during gunfights was just 18 percent. When suspects did not return fire, police officers hit their targets 30 percent of the time.

Snip> The data show what any police officer who has ever been involved in a shooting can tell you–firing accurately in a stressful situation is extremely hard.


I love this moment from the town hall


Cameras captured list of five pointers Trump held for listening session with Parkland kids


At a “listening session” with victims of gun violence on Wednesday, President Donald Trump needed a reminder to listen.

We know this because Trump ― or one of his advisers ― helpfully wrote it down on a cheat sheet he carried into the meeting.

Cameras captured the list of five pointers while Trump held it in his hands during the session. Point No. 5 on the list reads, simply, “I hear you.”

In the president’s defense, it’s not unusual to bring notes to a meeting. But to need a reminder to let gun violence survivors know you’re listening to them, while at a “listening session” organized for that explicit purpose is ... well, very on-brand for Trump.

The guest list for Wednesday’s session included students and families affected by last week’s shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida, that killed 17 people. It was an emotional affair, as survivors of gun violence recalled lost siblings, frequently struggling to hold back tears.



Glock pistols are the overlooked weapon in American mass shootings

By Francisco Alvarado

June 21, 2016 | 2:18 pm
When Omar Mateen burst into Pulse nightclub in Orlando on June 12 and opened fire on the crowd, killing 49 people and wounding 53 others, he was armed with two guns. But in the aftermath of the attack, only one of the weapons became the subject of intense scrutiny.

Most of the attention has focused on Mateen's semi-automatic .223-caliber Sig Sauer MCX, which is modeled after the AR-15 assault rifle. The fact that similar weapons were used during several recent mass shootings — including the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, the movie theater rampage in Aurora, Colorado that same year, and the 2015 attack in San Bernardino, California — led to a renewed push for an assault weapons ban, and prompted many reports about how easily AR-15s can be purchased in Florida.

But Mateen was also carrying a Glock, a brand of firearm that has been used nearly as often as assault rifles to commit mass murder.

Related: AR-15s are big business in Florida — and remarkably easy to get

A list of mass shootings between April 1999 and January 2013 prepared for lawmakers in Connecticut showed that rifles were used in 10 incidents and shotguns in 10 others, while handguns were used in 42. Glock brand pistols turned up in nine of those cases. Another compendium of mass shootings since 2009 by the New York Times showed that handguns were used in 13 incidents, compared to five in which a rifle was the primary weapon. Glocks were recovered from six of the perpetrators.


Autopsy: Aztec school shooter had swastika, build wall markings on body

Source: Albuquerque Journal

By Susan Montoya Bryan / Associated Press
Tuesday, February 20th, 2018 at 2:58pm

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A gunman in a deadly New Mexico school shooting last year had no drugs or alcohol in his system the day of the rampage and an autopsy revealed a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, bruised knuckles and faint ink markings on his leg that included a swastika symbol.

Autopsy and toxicology results for William Atchison were released Monday in response to a public records request.

Despite the ink markings, authorities reiterated Tuesday that there was no indication that the 21-year-old former student’s plot was influenced by white supremacist views as the victims weren’t specifically targeted. Notes left behind by the gunman detailed plans to “gear up” after making his way onto campus and then shoot up a classroom before killing himself, they said.

Atchison killed two students — Francisco I. Fernandez and Casey J. Marquez — at Aztec High School in December before firing randomly in a hallway and a computer lab, where a substitute teacher and students hid. He then killed himself.

Read more: https://www.abqjournal.com/1136006/autopsy-details-fatal-wound-of-new-mexico-school-shooter.html



Trump vs. The World: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Obama in 2012 after meeting with Sandy Hook parents vs Trump 2018

Obama (2012) sits alone in a classroom after meeting for hours with parents of Sandy Hook victims.

Trump (2018) sits at a disco party he threw at his private night club after spending 14 minutes with victims at the hospital in Parkland.

These pictures speak louder than words.


The Second Amendment: How the gun control debate went crazy Kurt Anderson

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