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Are Troops Talking to Assange ‘Communicating With the Enemy’?

Sep 28, 2012 3:43pm
By Jake Tapper

... Air Force counter-intelligence documents obtained by the Sydney Morning Herald suggest that military personnel who contact WikiLeaks could be charged with “communicating with the enemy.”

But George Little, a spokesman for the Pentagon, tells ABC News that the “Department of Defense does not regard Mr. Assange as a member of the ‘enemy,’ a military objective, or someone who should be dealt with by the US military.”

Little says the Pentagon “has warned Mr. Assange and Wikileaks against soliciting service members to break the law by providing classified information to them, and that it is our view that continued possession by Wikileaks of classified information belonging to the United States government represents a continuing violation of law. We regard this as a law enforcement matter.”

The documents were part of a probe of whether an analyst violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, section 904, article 104 ...

Posted by struggle4progress | Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:07 PM (5 replies)

Agreed statements of facts and issues

... 11 ... on 27th August 2010, the counsel for SW and AA appealed the Chief Prosecutor’s decision to a Senior Prosecutor in Goteborg. On 1st September 2010 , that prosecutor (Marianne Ny) decided that: i. The Preliminary Investigation in respect of file K246314-10<SW> would be resumed, under the offence of ‘rape’ ...

14 ... On 21st September 2010, the prosecutor contacted the Appellant’scounsel by text message to ask whether the Appellant could be made available for an interrogation on 28th September 2010. The date was provisionally agreed ...

15. On 27th September 2010 , the Appellant’s counsel advised the prosecutor that he had been unable to contact the Appellant. The prosecutor stated that she would consider how to proceed. Later that day, the prosecutor ordered that the Appellant should be arrested.

17. On 30th September 2010, the Appellant’s counsel was advised of theexistence of the arrest warrant. He advised the prosecutor that the Appellant was by then abroad. The Appellant had left Sweden on 27th September 2010. The Appellant offered to return to Sweden for interview on Sunday 10th October or on any date in the week commencing 11th October 2010. The Sunday was rejected as inappropriate. The week commencing 11th October 2010 was later rejected as being too far away.

18. The Respondent believed that the Appellant was attending a lecture in Stockholm on 4th October 2010. Plans were made to detain him then but that information proved inaccurate.

19. Therefore, on 5th and 8th October 2010, the prosecutor again contacted the Appellant’s counsel to discuss possible appointments for interview. The Appellant’s counsel offered to speak to the Appellant about whether he would be able to attend on 14th October 2010 ...

21. On 12th October 2010, the Appellant’s counsel advised the prosecutor that he had been unable to contact the Appellant. The prosecutor indicated her intention to issue an EAW if the Appellant did not attend for interview ...

25. On 18th November 2010, the prosecutor applied to the Stockholm District Court for a detention order in absentia ...

26. On the same date, the Stockholm District Court granted the prosecutor’s application for a domestic detention order in absentia.

27. On 19th November 2010, the Appellant appealed that order to the Svea Court of Appeal.

28. On 24th November 2010, following written argument on behalf of the parties, in which it was argued on behalf of the Appellant that the domestic arrest was not proportionate and not based on sufficient evidence giving rise to probable cause, but without an oral hearing, the order was upheld by the Svea Court of Appeal ...

29. The prosecutor’s written submissions to the Svea Court of Appeal on 24th November 2010 confirmed that she was “…requesting the arrest of Assange is in order to enable implementation of the preliminary investigation…”.

30. On 26th November 2010, an EAW was issued by the prosecutor pursuant to the Council of the European Union Framework Decision ...

33. On 28th November 2010, the Appellant applied to the Supreme Courtfor permission to appeal the decision of the Svea Court of Appeal. On 2nd December 2010, that application was refused ...

37. On 6th December 2010, the EAW was certified by SOCA ...

40. The ‘extradition hearing’ took place before the Senior District Judge(Judge Riddle) at City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court (sitting atBelmarsh Magistrates’ Court) on 7th, 8th & 11th February 2011 ... On 24th February 2011, the Appellant’s extradition was ordered by the Senior District Judge ...

43. On 12th & 13th July 2011, the Appeal was heard before the High Court ...

44. The High Court considered four appeal grounds:
a. The EAW had not been issued by a "judicial authority".
b. The EAW did not meet the dual criminality test.
c. The Applicant was not an “accused” within the meaning of s.2(3) of the 2003 Act.
d. The issue of the EAW and subsequent proceedings were not proportionate ...

46. On 2nd November 2011, the High Court dismissed the appeal, pursuant to section 27(1)(b) of the 2003 Act. The Court held that:
a. The Swedish prosecutor was a judicial authority, because the term “judicial” was not limited to a judge who adjudicates and could also include a prosecutorial body, as envisaged by Article 6 of the Framework Decision (judgment §§20-54);
b. The offences in the EAW did meet the dual criminality requirement, having regard to ss.74, 75 and 76 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (§§55-127);
c. The Applicant was an “accused” person, applying the House of Lords’ decision in Re Ismail <1999> 1 AC 320 (§§128-154);
d. The decision to issue the warrant and the failure to take up the offer of video link questioning were not disproportionate (§§155-160) ...

47. On 5th December 2011, the High Court certified that the following point of law of general public importance was involved in its decision, pursuant to section 32(4)(a) of the 2003 Act: “…Whether a European Arrest Warrant (‘EAW’) issued by a public prosecutor is a valid Part 1 Warrant issued by a “judicial authority” within the meaning of sections 2(2) & 66 of the Extradition Act 2003? ...” ...

51. No grounds of appeal were left undetermined by the High Court.

The issues

52. Whether a public prosecutor is a judicial authority ...


Assange had his year and a half in the UK courts, to argue against his extradition as he saw fit, and the foregoing provides a summary of the case as it left the High Court and headed into the UK Supreme Court. Note that any hint of the bizarre fantasia about forward extradition had already been dropped at Belmarsh. Assange's lawyers chose to quibble in the High Court about minor technical points -- such as whether the Swedish prosecutor could issue an EAW, or whether Assange could properly be described as "an accused person" for the purposes of extradition proceedings. He had his days in court, and he lost his case there
Posted by struggle4progress | Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:28 PM (1 replies)

Britain's Hague meets Ecuador's top diplomat in U.S. on Assange

UNITED NATIONS | Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:32pm EDT

i](Reuters) - British Foreign Minister William Hague sought on Thursday to allay his Ecuadorean counterpart's concerns about the fate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying Britain's extradition law has "extensive human rights safeguards" ...

Patino held in his hands a mimeographed copy of an 1880 agreement signed between Britain and Ecuador, which he said prohibits extradition in cases likes that of Assange. He said he planned to show the document to Hague ...


... DONE at Quito, capital of the Republic of Ecuador, the 20th September, 1880.

Posted by struggle4progress | Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:00 PM (0 replies)

"... It is a central contention of the defence that the warrant was issued for questioning

rather than prosecution ... I am satisfied that there is no equivocal statement or ambiguity in the warrant. The English version of the warrant states that it is for the purposes of conducting a criminal prosecution or executing a custodial sentence or detention order. The warrant refers to offences, indicates the relevant provisions of Swedish criminal law; and identifies specific conduct against Mr Assange ... The person who knows whether she wants the defendant for the purpose of being prosecuted is the Swedish prosecutor ... The fact that Sweden requires a person to be interrogated, before a formal decision to charge is made, is not determinative. Each country has its own procedures for prosecuting offences ... In summary: ... looking at all the circumstances in the round, this person passes the threshold of being an “accused” person and is wanted for prosecution ..."
City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court (Sitting at Belmarsh Magistrates’ Court)
The judicial authority in Sweden -v- Julian Paul Assange
Findings of facts and reasons
Posted by struggle4progress | Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:39 PM (0 replies)

Heroic Ecuador defends the natural right of men everywhere to have sex with unconscious women!

Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, has said ... the case would not in his view constitute criminal behaviour in Latin America ...

Julian Assange sex claims not a crime in Latin America – Ecuador president
Jonathan Watts in Guayaquil
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 August 2012 01.27 EDT

The president of Ecuador has dismissed the allegations against Julian Assange by claiming that a man who shares a bed with a woman cannot be accused of rape. Rafael Correa said the accusations would not be considered crimes in '90 to 95 per cent of the planet' and questioned the behaviour and motives of the alleged victims ...

'Sharing a bed cannot lead to rape': Ecuador's president leaps to the defence of Assange
By Nazia Parveen
PUBLISHED: 05:23 EST, 26 August 2012 | UPDATED: 17:27 EST, 26 August 2012

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
– Den andra kvinnan ville anmäla för våldtäkt. Jag gav min berättelse som vittnesmål till hennes berättelse och för att stötta henne


... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts that normally the ticking of a framework list offence box on an EAW would require very little analysis by the court. However they then developed a sophisticated argument that the conduct alleged here would not amount to rape in most European countries. However, what is alleged here is that Mr Assange “deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state”. In this country that would amount to rape ...

City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court (Sitting at Belmarsh Magistrates’ Court)
The judicial authority in Sweden -v- Julian Paul Assange
Findings of facts and reasons

Posted by struggle4progress | Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:31 PM (2 replies)

Assange acknowledges Argentine support as ‘very important

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange said that “Argentina's support is very important, because Argentina has experience with facing the UK”.

The hacker, who’s still living at Ecuador’s embassy in London after requesting political asylum over three months ago, told reporters that “Argentina has been very supportive and Ambassador in London Alicia Castro came to show me their support.”

Likewise, Assange stressed: “I appreciate Argentina’s independence on the asylum issue” ...

Posted by struggle4progress | Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:41 PM (0 replies)

Assange's bizarre interview with Agencia Pública de Noticias del Ecuador y Suramérica (ANDES)

is predictably filled with the Assange's fantasies and double-talk

He speaks of "persecution by the U.S. against me and other WikiLeaks people" and further says "We are extremely grateful to Ecuador" that "prosecution by U.S. or extradition proceedings against me or other people connected to Wikileaks, will take place following the granting of asylum in Ecuador"

Of course, there is no actual evidence of US persecution of Assange or other Wikileaks personnel. And the only known prosecution of any Wikileaks staff is the pending Swedish prosecution of Assange for sexual assault. Moreover, Ecuador has not offered any general asylum to Wikileaks staff. In fact, Ecuador's August announcement regarding Assange mentions Wikileaks only once: "Ecuador wrote, asking the US government ... whether there is an ongoing legal process ... against Julian Assange and/or founders of the organization Wikileaks ... The U.S. response has been that ... the Assange case ... is a bilateral issue between Ecuador and the United Kingdom." So in reality, Ecuador is protecting only Assange -- and not Wikileaks in general

Assange further says: "... my primary task is to continue to keep our people safe from any U.S. attack against WikiLeaks. That is, demand the U.S. do the right thing and abandon its campaign against us. Once they do this, their military allies of the United Kingdom and Sweden will too ..." It is not entirely clear here who "our people" might be. Available financial information for Wikileaks suggests that Assange is the only staff member paid any substantial salary. It seems very unlikely that "our people" refers to the people who took risks to provide materials to Wikileaks. For example, when two Kenyan activists were killed after Wikileaks publication of Kenyan materials, Assange merely said that they hadn't been careful enough. And Assange has similarly shown very little interest in helping Bradley Manning, whose document release is the major reason for Assange's current fame: in a year when his organization took in nearly $2 million, Assange promised $50K for Manning's defense and used Manning's name for fundraising purposes -- but he only ever delivered $15K. The natural impression will be that Assange is mainly interested in protecting himself

Nor is it clear, when Assange claims to be defending everybody from US "attacks," exactly what "attacks" he is imagining. He does manage to mention that Sweden and the UK are military allies of the US: could he really believe the US is plotting some paramilitary operation against him? No -- it seems far more likely that he simply wishes to obfuscate his flat-out refusal to face the sexual assault complaints of his Swedish sexual partners

He claims that "Like Cuba, we are subject to blockades from Washington" citing problems "collecting online donations made with credit cards" and claims that these "locks ... are political and operate outside the law," adding "much work is needed to combat large organizations such as VISA and Bank Of America." In fact, there's just no evidence of a US blockade of Wikileaks: Assange may have real problems with large financial institutions -- but then why does he need to imagine some Federal conspiracy? Neither VISA nor BoA is headquartered in DC: VISA's offices are in San Francisco and BoA's are in Charlotte. And given the way he yanked BoA's chain -- snickering about how much fun he had making them squirm and later saying he really didn't have anything on them -- it wouldn't be at all surprising if company lawyers put in a bit of overtime, trying to figure out how they could get even with him

How richly ironic it is, that Assange complains he believes other people "operate outside the law" when he has skipped bail to avoid extradition for a criminal prosecution!

The interview ends on a similar self-serving note, when the interviewer asks: "In your work in WikiLeaks, did you ever imagine you would be stuck in such a political crisis as this?" And Assange replies: "my greatest regret is that my children did not agree to this cost." But, of course, this is more of his usual vacuous claptrap: his son Daniel, estranged from him for years, describes his father as ""a criminal mastermind"

Julian Assange: El presidente Rafael Correa ha demostrado que no tiene miedo a aferrarse a sus principios sobre soberanía nacional
Enviado por Edwin.Ulloa en Lun, 09/17/2012 - 14:24

TEXTO COMPLETO: Declaración del gobierno de Ecuador dando asilo a Assange

... The main beneficiary has been founder Julian Assange, who has drawn 66,000 Euros (about $86,000) in salary thus far this year, the Journal reports. Wau Holland has paid a total of 100,000 Euros in salaries to the entire WikiLeaks staff, which means Assange is getting the lion's share ...

WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Now Making $86k/year
December 24, 2010 1:50 PM

... he told MoJo about two Kenyan human rights activists with links to a WikiLeaks leak who were later gunned down, their mistake was that they 'weren't acting in an anonymous way' ...

Behind the Arrest of Alleged Wikileaks Source
Max Fisher
Jun 7, 2010

WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy Web site, has yet to make good on a July pledge to contribute financial aid to the legal defense fund of a U.S. Army private suspected of leaking classified documents to the site, the fund's director said Tuesday ... According to Paterson, Courage to Resist corresponded with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in July and on subsequent occasions confirming that WikiLeaks would cover about half of the expected fees, or $50,000, for Manning's defense. On its Twitter page, WikiLeaks frequently solicited donations for the defense fund through a German charity, the Wau Holland Foundation ...

WikiLeaks hasn't fulfilled financial-aid pledge for suspect in leaks, group says
By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 7, 2010; 10:36 PM

WikiLeaks Contributes $15,000 to Bradley Manning’s Defense
By Kim Zetter
01.13.11 2:50 PM

... "I think it's great," Assange told the venerable US television news magazine 60 Minutes on Sunday evening. "We have all these banks squirming, thinking maybe it's them." ...

Assange relishes US banks 'squirming' over 'megaleak'
Accuses America of chucking free speech in rubbish bin

By Cade Metz in San Francisco
31st January 2011 05:06 GMT

WikiLeaks has data from Bank of America Corp., but founder Julian Assange isn't sure whether it holds any big news and it may be difficult to interpret, according to a Reuters report this week ... "Assange privately acknowledged the material was not self-explanatory and that he personally was unable to make much sense of it," the Reuters story Wednesday stated, citing the sources. "Assange indicated it would require a substantial amount of effort by financial experts to determine whether any of the material was newsworthy." ...

WikiLeaks: Assange doubts value of Bank of America e-mails
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011

... "That man does have a way of making a lot of female enemies," Daniel Assange, 21, said about his embattled dad ... In a Twitter post, Daniel has called his dad "a criminal mastermind with a political vision" ... He describes himself as "estranged" from his dad, who waged a nasty custody battle with the boy's mother in the early 1990s. She has never been publicly identified ...

My Wiki dad's just awful with the ladies
Leaker's son speaks out on sex case

Last Updated: 8:43 AM, August 27, 2010
Posted: 4:37 AM, August 27, 2010
Posted by struggle4progress | Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:07 PM (0 replies)

Wikileaks Greatest Hits: Carl Bildt is tall! and smart!

As admirers around the globe swoon at the astounding achievements of Julian Assange, who now plans to visit Sweden just as soon as he can escape from pressing obligations at the Ecuadorian embassy, we pause from time to time to recall Wikileaks' tireless work on behalf of almost anyone almost anywhere

And so, here and now! we bring you yet another heart-warming Wikileaks moment: Carl Bildt is tall! and smart!

Background. In case you were too busy doing something else -- eating Cheetos, maybe -- the last time anybody mentioned him, let's review quickly who Carl Bildt is. He is a former Swedish Prime Minister and also former head of Sweden's Moderate Party. The Moderate Party bills itself as the alternative that’s both liberal and conservative -- showing that politicians over there in Sweden can talk out of both sides of their mouths at once, whilst simultaneously keeping their mugs on one side of the fence and their wumps on the other: just like politicians over here! Karl Rove has sometimes advised the Moderate Party, and the Party belongs to the current coalition government, having earned about a third of the vote in the September 2010 election. And Carl Bildt is currently Sweden’s Foreign Minister. And internet freedom is one of his special interests!

Lights! ... Camera! ... So, naturally, when Wikileaks wanted to expose the vast international conspiracy that led several of Julian Assange’s sexual partners to complain to the police about his behavior, exposing Carl Bildt came to mind! Wikileaks sprang into action, promising Swedish media exciting revelations. Stories circulated that Wikileaks would end Bildt's political career! He had been a spy for the US! Karl Rove had been his contact! Bildt challenged Wikileaks to publish

Action! The big day arrived! Wikileaks announced: "we have a document that shows the close relationship between Carl Bildt and Washington insiders."

Ta da! Bildt noted that the report, that was supposed to end his political career, provided such damning details as "super tall, has photographic memory and is very smart."

Minister for Foreign Affairs

Freedom on the Internet

WIKILEAKS aims to release documents revealing that Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt is a US spy, as part of a "smear campaign" to stop Sweden from extraditing founder Julian Assange to the United States, a Swedish daily reports. The whistleblower website has threatened in an internal memo to publish a so far unknown diplomatic cable "where Foreign Minister Carl Bildt is shown to have been an informant for the United States since the 1970s," the Expressen tabloid reported today, saying it had seen the WikiLeaks memo. Bildt "will have to step down. This will be the end of his political career," an unnamed person with access to the unpublished diplomatic cable was quoted as saying. Bildt himself reacted to the report on his official blog today, challenging WikiLeaks to publish "this in their opinion damning report."

WikiLeaks' 'smear campaign' to save founder Julian Assange
From correspondents in Stockholm
February 23, 2012 1:25AM

... The whistleblower website has threatened in an internal memo to publish a so far unknown diplomatic cable "where Foreign Minister Carl Bildt is shown to have been an informant for the United States since the 1970s," the Expressen tabloid reported on yesterday, saying it had seen the WikiLeaks memo ... The cable on Mr Bildt reportedly shows that he first became an informant for the United States in 1973 and his original contact was none other than Republican strategist and former president George W Bush's political guru Karl Rove ...

WikiLeaks plans explosive spy leak
From: AAP
February 22, 2012 11:36PM

... WikiLeaks has promised more to come, with spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson claiming that "we have a document that shows the close relationship between Carl Bildt and Washington insiders." Mr Bildt "will have to step down. This will be the end of his political career," an unnamed person with access to the unpublished diplomatic cable was quoted as saying ...[/i
'Sweden should become a world power' - WikiLeaks opens its Carl Bildt file
WikiLeaks begins Stratfor dump 
Claims Bildt wants larger Sweden 
Says information can be turned into cash 

By Peter Farquhar
February 27, 2012 1:26PM

... The details are included in a September 2009 email exchange between employees of Strategic Forecasting, Inc., a US security consulting company commonly known as Stratfor and are attributed to a Swedish member of the European Parliament referred to only as “SW501” ... Bildt used his official Twitter account to brush off the significance of the email. "Wikileaks released obscure email saying I'm "super tall, has photographic memory and is very smart". Isn't this slightly ridiculous?" he wrote on his Twitter account ...

Bildt wants Sweden to be 'world power': WikiLeaks
Published: 27 Feb 12 10:16 CET
Updated: 27 Feb 12 11:27 CET

I got a lot of info on Carl Bildt. Our Swedish MEP contact is basically his main ally. Bildt is apparently super tall, has photographic memory and is very smart ... Bildt believes that Sweden should become a world power ... He is also very critical of Russia ... I did meet his wife, who is also an MEP in the Parliament. She is apparently Italian and does not speak really good Swedish


Posted by struggle4progress | Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:56 PM (0 replies)

Sweden's rape rate under the spotlight

14 September 2012 Last updated at 19:37 ET
By Ruth Alexander BBC News

... Official figures from the United Nations show that there were 17 kidnaps per 100,000 people in Australia in 2010 and 12.7 in Canada.

That compares with only 0.6 in Colombia and 1.1 in Mexico.

So why haven't we heard any of these horror stories? Are people being grabbed off the street in Sydney and Toronto, while the world turns a blind eye?

No, the high numbers of kidnapping cases in these two countries are explained by the fact that parental disputes over child custody are included in the figures ...

Posted by struggle4progress | Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:59 PM (4 replies)

Jury used to hide facts DUers dislike

Here's the post:

Assange: US has "given tacit approval for attacks on embassies"
By Toby Manhire
Published on September 13, 2012

... whatever you think of the WikiLeaks founder, who is currently sheltering in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, it's hard to fathom his latest tweeted statement, in which he asserts some sort of link between the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, in which the American ambassador was killed, and his own treatment.

The tweet:

By the US accepting the UK siege on the Ecuadorian embassy in London it gave tacit approval for attacks on embassies around the world ...

Loyal Assange supporter Jemima Khan had the best response:

That last @wikileaks tweet manages to be both absurd and shockingly offensive & I say that as a wikileaks supporter ...


It is entirely an excerpt from a post at The New Zealand Listener: that post includes screenshots of the original tweet (which was removed and replaced)


Note that Jemima Khan is one of the individuals who put up bail for Assange:

... One of Julian Assange's most prominent supporters, Jemima Khan, has said she would like to see the WikiLeaks founder, who has made an asylum bid to avoid extradition to Sweden, confront the rape allegations made against him by two Swedish women. The socialite and charity fundraiser, who faces losing the £20,000 she put towards his bail money after Assange took refuge at the Ecuadorean embassy in London and sought political asylum, said on Twitter that the women deserved a response to their allegations. She wrote: "For the record, in response to those asking about Assange & bail money.... I personally would like to see Assange confront the rape allegations in Sweden and the 2 women at the centre have a right to a response" ... Earlier this week, she voiced her surprise at Assange's asylum bid, writing on Twitter that she had "expected him to face the allegations" ...
Jemima Khan 'would like to see Julian Assange confront rape allegations'
Socialite who donated to WikiLeaks founder's bail money also defends him over fears of extradition to US
David Batty
Thursday 21 June 2012 19.54 EDT

Here's the jury decision:

Assange: US has “given tacit approval for attacks on embassies”


This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)


The claim that Assange said this is a lie and has already lead many people in the thread to wrongfully believe this. This is nothing more than a deceitful attempt at character assasination.

This post (and similar ones by the same poster I should add) also violates TOS according to the following paragraph:

"Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.
Democratic Underground is not intended to be a platform for kooks and crackpots peddling paranoid fantasies with little or no basis in fact."


A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:56 AM, and voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: While I cannot but agree that OP is "kook and crackpot peddling paranoid fantasies" it's better to leave it for number of reasons.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Maybe I'm not up the latest about Wikileaks, but this didn't seem that hurtful to me, nor intended to be hurtful. It's just a news report. If it's inaccurate, then it's easy enough to point that, or post another thread to rebut it with the truth, whatever that is.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: s4p really jumped the shark on this one. These anti-Assange folks are going to desperate lengths to try to smear him, it seems. It's borderline OCD -- someone needs to see a shrink, methinks.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Posted by struggle4progress | Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:31 AM (89 replies)
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