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Name: Mara Alis Butler
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Hometown: Indianapolis, Indiana
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Transgender (MTF) Social Worker/Case Manager working for State of Indiana. Huge Sci-Fi/Anime Geek and music lover. Hopeless \"political junkie\" and aspiring writer.

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They're not concerned about the millions more who voted for Hillary in 2016

whose voices didn't count because of our election system. The news media spent years doing nothing but covering Trumpers and what they cared about (or didn't, depending on what you're referring to), and now we have an election where Biden won the majority of the PV by millions, as well as the requisite number of Electoral Votes (and then som), and they still feel entitled to more coverage. I have a bad feeling that, even once Trump is gone, we are going to be hearing more about the Trumpists and their feelings over the next 2-4 years and how sad they must be that they lost their "God Emperor" due to a "rigged election".
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Tue Jan 5, 2021, 07:48 PM (0 replies)

It sounds like we did

which begs the question: What happens if we have an election that a Democrat wins but Congress is in control of the GOP? Will they be able to throw the election out and install their own even if, like with this election, it wasn't close and there is no evidence of fraud or malfeasance?
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:59 PM (2 replies)

Biden Backing Off Progressive Initiatives?

I have a lot of left-wing friends on Facebook/Twitter and lately they've been posting that Biden is backing off initiatives that he supported during the campaign, including cancelling student loans and ending Trump's migrant detention policies. They're not particularly fond of him anyway and I'm not sure exactly where they are getting this information but just interested in hearing from anybody here if this is remotely accurate or true. I feel like it's probably something he might have said that they're miscontruing and/or taking out of context but not sure.
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:02 PM (61 replies)


Trump has really gotten all of us to really think and possibly re-think a LOT of the stuff we have always taken for granted as being symbolic and automatic democratic traditions. There never has really been a problem with a lot of this stuff because our leaders have always been (mostly) honorable people whom have implicitly agreed to maintain the norms and traditions that have existed in our country over the years but with people like Trump and, to a lesser extent, George W. Bush, whom are either ignorant or corrupt or uncaring about our political traditions and norms, we have had to re-examine and re-think or assumptions whether or not just having these traditions and norms are sufficient in and of themselves to safeguard our democratic system of government. After the last 4 years, I was genuinely terrified of the possibility that another 4 years of Trump taking a chainsaw to our democracy with the ongoing tacit/implicit support/neglect by a major political party (Republicans) would destroy what we had left of our form of government, which had already been weakened by years and years of Republican destruction of norms in other branches of government, most notably the Senate under Mitch McConnell and SCOTUS by conservative ideologues. It may really be time to start making some major changes to how things like Elections are conducted and/or put into place some actual legal/ethical mechanisms into the functioning of our government to ensure that we don't have another President like Trump come in and exploit all of those loopholes ever again. In that way, we can at least salvage *something* positive from our experience of the past 4 years with Trump and, hopefully, prevent another clusterf**k and threat to our democracy for all time.
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Fri Jan 1, 2021, 12:25 PM (2 replies)

This really frustrates me

And it's not just him saying it but go on just about any progressive/left-wing discussion forum and you hear basically the same argument, essentially attacking Democrats for "not doing enough"- while completely ignoring how Congress works, how Presidents work and how much power they have, and who is fighting against Democratic proposals. Not saying Democrats are absolutely perfect but if anybody is paying attention, they ARE trying to do more for all Americans but, in almost every instance, it's Republicans whom are consistently blocking more expansive Democratic policies and proposals. So then, it basically becomes a vicious cycle: Democrats propose and try to pass progressive and expansionist policies and Republicans obstruct them. And when they can't obstruct them, they go to the courts and try to block them or get them overruled them there. And then, progressive voters get depressed and then refuse to vote Democratic (or at all) in the next election(s), ensuring Republicans win seats and can obstruct more and/or enact their own, vastly worse policies. But do THEY get blamed? No. People like Bernie remain fixated on second-guessing and critiquing Democrats and blaming them for not getting some through. They think that if they yell loud enough, rip off their shirts and bare their chests, or call out Republicans enough that Republicans will listen to them. It just doesn't work that way. Republicans don't care and they lost their sense of shame eons ago. What we need are votes, which means we need to get out to vote for Democrats over and over again until Republicans can't keep gumming up their works with their mindless obstructionism.
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:04 PM (0 replies)

"Electoral Fraud" will now be the new "Birtherism"

Mark my words. Republicans will use "Electoral Fraud" to discredit and hound Biden with from now until the end of his term in office much in the same way that Republicans used the "Birtherism" conspiracy to discredit and hound Obama during his terms in office. The Birtherism conspiracy, despite his wild claims to the contrary, ended up being embraced and led, ironically, by one Donald Trump, who repeatedly egged the Birthers on and on promised major developments in proving the Birther's fever dreams but in the end delivered nothing (although pushing Obama to showing everybody his birth certificate, something which no President has ever been asked to do AFAIK). All those investigators he supposedly sent to Hawaii never returned, apparently. Like with Birtherism, many Congressional Republicans won't necessary flogg the theory that Biden cheated on a hereto never before seen scale with this past election themselves but they will- much as they are already doing- speak in coded, mealy-mouthed language that carefully skirts around the conspiracy theories about electoral fraud being pushed by the new "Tea Party" (which will this time around likely be the Qanon folks). Ultimately, they will appear to be disavowing the theories to a media that will credulously claim that they're not wacko to believe such nonsense, but not so much that the Q folks think they've turned on them and prompt them to attempt to primary them in the next election. We need to be prepared for this. The Republicans led by Gym Jordan in the House are prepared to not even accept an Electoral College certification next week. I would suspect that they will attempt to continue to file lawsuits and, if they retain power in the Senate and/or gain power in the House in the next election, find ways to further "investigate" and litigate these wild claims. I suspect as well, if they hold the Senate, they will, as McConnell (assuming he's elected Majority Leader gain, which he probably would) and other Republicans like Lindsey Graham have already vowed, fight tooth and nail to deny Biden cabinet nominees, judicial nominees, etc. and use "Electoral Fraud" as the excuse to do so (even though they would be doing it no matter what but this just gives them some cover, however false and disingenuous). It is incumbent on all Democrats in the House and Senate to recognize what I believe the Republicans' strategy is going to be and develop the means to counteract it as effectively as possible or else we might wind up going through another 4-8 years of energized Republican opposition to meaningful progress and further polarization and division in this country.
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:10 PM (11 replies)

Knowledge of the "apparent winner" is all that is required per policy

Joe Biden IS the “apparent winner”. There is literally no doubt about who won other than the insane legal and conspiracy theories being pushed by Trump, which are getting rejected over and over again. Biden got the most votes and won the EC. She needs to do her job starting yesterday
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:57 PM (1 replies)

Since Republicans are over voter fraud "allegations" right now......

Are they implicitly admitting that all those laws they've passed in just about every state over the years making it harder for people to vote *legally* are actually still not enough to prevent massive voter fraud (proof of which never existed in the first place)?
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:33 PM (0 replies)

If there was all of this massive voter fraud

Why aren't there actual Election Officials in states corroborating this? I mean, if it were sooooooo obvious?
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:08 PM (2 replies)

I think that most of them are so-called "Undecided Voters"

Like his policies, embarrassed by his behavior and antics. I don't think that there are actually a lot of true "undecided voters" out there because I'm just not sure what they're undecided about. If this were an election between, say, George H.W. Bush and Joe Biden, then, yeah, sure, I can probably see where there might be some indecision. Or Bob Dole and Joe Biden. But between Donald Trump (+4 years of history) and Joe Biden really should not be hard to decide unless you voted for Trump in 2016 and are stuck trying to figure out if you're going to vote for him again or how you might rationalize such a decision.
Posted by Proud Liberal Dem | Sat Oct 24, 2020, 11:35 AM (4 replies)
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