Mad_Machine76
Mad_Machine76's JournalWill Trump be able to scare enough people into voting for him over "Socialism" fears?
Attacking the eventual Democratic nominee (whoever it is and whatever their policies actually are) for being "socialist" and raising the specter of AOC and "The Squad" potentially running the country is almost certainly going to be the Trump/GOP M.O. in 2020. Of this I am absolutely certain. My only question is, will that actually work on a lot of people in this country, enough to scare enough people into voting to re-elect him despite being the absolute mess of a human being that he is. Or will most people not care and/or be willing to toss him aside regardless of whether or not they might think that the nominee's policies are too left-wing? I would like to think that people are going to be fed up enough with Trump that they will vote to throw him out of office in 2020 regardless of his Twitter tantrums and that trying to gin up fears of "socialism" (which they tried and failed using against Obama in 2008) won't work against the Democratic nominee. What does everybody else think?
Hoo-boy
I followed politics intensely in the 1990's and remember all of the Clinton hate from the right and all of the numerous investigations they went through that all but yielded nothing. After Vince Foster killed himself in 1993 (which was itself a subject of numerous Clinton conspiracy theories) I'm not sure that there was a single year that Bill was President where he and/or Hillary and their associates weren't under investigation for *something* by the GOP or by a Special Counsel (and there were at least two of those). There was even one additional Clinton investigation after he had left office (the alleged "sacking" of the WH as the Clintons were leaving). Then, more recently, there were another 3(?) years of GOP-led HRC investigations about Benghazi, her e-mail server, etc.
Why do people have to learn the hard way
that when dealing with a person like Trump who attacks all but a few groups of people that, unless you're in that very small, very select group of people (white, cishet, rich, evangelical) he always supports and protects, they- or a loved one- will almost certainly become another victim of his policies eventually? This is basically the conservative mindset in general: "If it isn't happening to me or to a loved one, it doesn't exist to me and therefore I just can't care."
The Clintons and left-wing conspiracy theorists?
Disclaimer: I'm not posting this to attack people on the left in general, just questioning something from my own personal experience on social media
I'm a liberal and I have a lot of friends on FB whom are supposedly on the left wing, usually far left wing (i.e. left-wing indies, socialists, communists, even some anarchists) and they somehow seem to be the biggest proponents of conspiracy theories involving the Clintons and some of them have jumped (pounced) right on to the "Clintons murdered Epstein because they were afraid of him spilling the beans on Bill" train. Is it just my corner of left-wing social media that's getting this or has Clinton-hating become just as much of a thing on the left as it once was on the right? I thought that the whole "Clinton murder" stuff was just a right-wing fringe obsession back in the 1990's. Before Epstein died, the same people were also posting a lot about how it was quite likely (without sharing any particular evidence) that Bill would be taken down by whatever comes out about Epstein's network and how cool they'd be with that. Don't take me wrong. If Bill Clinton *was* involved in any sexual misconduct as part of his contact with Epstein (or otherwise), he would have deserved whatever came about. I'm just noticing a certain "glee" about the Clintons being taken down that I find odd on the left side of the fence. I'm sure that some on the left are probably still mad about 2016 and that Hillary beat Bernie for the Democratic nomination, but still, they just seem more focused on conspiracy theories involving the Clintons than, say Trump. And FTR I'm not a big subscriber to conspiracy theories in general.
Public assistance should be available for anybody who lives here in this country
Legal and undocumented immigrants need to eat too and should not be left on the streets to starve to death.
BUT maybe we should take a harsher look though at corporations whom literally expect the government to essentially supplement their own sh**ty wages and benefits with government assistance programs (i.e. Wal-Mart)
He also thanks
anybody promoting more Clinton murder conspiracy theories because then we're talking about Hillary again and not Trump. Oddly enough, I'm hearing more of the Clinton conspiracy theories more from people I know whom are more on the left/indy side of the spectrum than those on the right. When I've challenged them, they bring up all of the right-wing Clinton stuff produced in the 1990's. Even pointing out how heavily investigated the Clintons were throughout all of the 1990's and, again in the 2010's and how all of the Clinton "murder" stories were never considered more than a fringe obsession of some on the right, it doesn't seem to matter. Of course, the major problem with all conspiracy theories is that they seem to be self-reinforcing. They're impossible to disprove and the absence of evidence is always attributable to the conspiracy and some mysterious people or forces covering it up so that nobody can get to the proof.
It had to be around that time
that I noticed the proliferation of shirtless pics of Putin on horseback, along with Republican Congressmen pretty openly expressing admiration of him in their attacks on President Obama and thinking it all rather weird.
I'm so tired of people (even some Democrats) acting like Democrats are so extreme
especially when it is taken at gospel and accepted at face value without any consideration of what we are advocating for, compared to what the Republicans are advocating for.
So, are Democrats like Peterson seriously saying
that they would only support it if the public and minimum amount of GOPers support it? In that case, he might as well say that he just won't do it because if those are his standards, that ain't never happening. Which raises another question, is it Congress' job to act as our representatives and lead and do things that are potentially unpopular or controversial- or are they just supposed to just follow the polls and do things only if most of them are in agreement or if the votes are already there?
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