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Hairy, scary, pro-abortion, 'rad fem', doing my best to piss off the "religious" right and MRAs everywhere.

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No. Hillary Clinton did not call people on welfare, "deadbeats." (edit: internet slooow)

Please note: I'm having issues with my internet right now (slow, fast, slow, stalled, etc.). I'll get back to the replies after I straighten things out with my ISP. Sorry. (hoping this posts)

Here's a direct link to her article from March 2000. http://www.creators.com/opinion/hillary-clinton/talking-it-over-2000-03-15.html

Here's the link to her series of weekly articles: http://www.creators.com/opinion/hillary-clinton/archive.html?DATE_START=2000-05-01 You can search by month.

Here's where the word "deadbeat" was used:

Tom is a 32-year-old father of two. Although he is required to pay child support, he recently lost his low-paying job, and has fallen behind in his payments.

David, also 32, is divorced with four children. Unlike Tom, David has a good job, but brushes aside his obligation to pay support to his family.

In this country, nearly one in three children grows up without a father, and is five times more likely to live in poverty than a child in a two-parent family. Child support is an important component in helping lift these children out of poverty, and is critical to supporting their healthy development.

As part of the administration's budget proposal, the President has included a major new initiative aimed at helping these children. His plan is tough on "deadbeat" parents like David who can afford to pay; helps "deadbroke" parents like Tom who are struggling to do the right thing; and ensures that more child support money goes directly to families.


For parents like Tom who want to meet their obligations to their children, but are unable to afford them, the budget includes a component called Fathers Work/Families Win that will help approximately 40,000 low-income, non-custodial parents (the vast majority of whom are fathers), work, pay child support, and reconnect with their children.

<snip to much more at link>

This was an article about the issue of "deadbeat dads," since rebranded (an now barely reported in the press) as "deadbeat parents." Those parents who can afford to keep their children out of poverty but choose not to do so. It was a big deal on the national stage, once upon a time. Just ask the press.

Here's another direct link to the articles mentioned at buzzfeed: http://www.creators.com/opinion/hillary-clinton/talking-it-over-1998-06-03.html

And a snip:

One day, Rhonda Costa's daughter came home from school and announced, "Mommy, I'm tired of seeing you sitting around the house doing nothing." That's the day Rhonda decided to get off welfare.


Felicia Booker, who is blind, needed public assistance after the birth of her first child, but she got "tired of sitting around the house and tired of not having enough money." She enrolled in a six-week training program that led to a position at a computer programming company. Now, she works for A.G. Edwards in St. Louis, Mo., earning $46,000 a year.

Tonya Oden was caring for her three children with the help of public assistance when she heard about a training program at Cessna Aircraft Co.'s 21st Street Subassembly Facility in Wichita, Kan. She enrolled and was the first trainee to become an inspector at the facility, where she now earns $12 an hour.


The President's child-care initiative would provide much-needed help for working parents, and he has proposed the funding of vouchers for those who need housing assistance to get or keep their jobs. And we need to find even more private-sector jobs.

<snip to much more at link>

"...In 1973, hospitals made up 80 percent of the country’s abortion facilities."

The New Abortion Providers

Published: July 14, 2010

On a clear and mild March day in 1993, the Operation Rescue leader Randall Terry spoke at a rally in southern Florida against abortion. “We’ve found the weak link is the doctor,” he told the crowd. “We’re going to expose them. We’re going to humiliate them.” A few days later, Dr. David Gunn, an abortion provider, was shot and killed outside his clinic in Pensacola, Fla., about 500 miles away. It was the first of eight such murders, the extreme edge of what has become an anti-abortion strategy of confrontation.

Terry understood that focusing on abortion providers was possible because they had become increasingly isolated from mainstream medicine. That was not what physicians themselves anticipated after the Supreme Court’s 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade. An open letter signed by 100 professors of obstetrics and gynecology predicted that free-standing clinics would be unnecessary if half of the 20,000 obstetricians in the country would do abortions for their patients, and if hospitals would handle “their proportionate share.” OB-GYNs at the time emphasized that abortion was a surgical procedure and fell under their purview.


But the clinics also truly came to stand alone. In 1973, hospitals made up 80 percent of the country’s abortion facilities. By 1981, however, clinics outnumbered hospitals, and 15 years later, 90 percent of the abortions in the U.S. were performed at clinics. The American Medical Association did not maintain standards of care for the procedure. Hospitals didn’t shelter them in their wings. Being a pro-choice doctor came to mean referring your patients to a clinic rather than doing abortions in your own office.

This was never the feminist plan. “The clinics’ founders didn’t intend them to become virtually the only settings for abortion services in many communities,” says Carole Joffe, a sociologist and author of a history of the era, “Doctors of Conscience,” and a new book, “Dispatches From the Abortion Wars.” When the clinics became the only place in town to have an abortion, they became an easy mark for extremists. As Joffe told me, “The violence was possible because the relationship of medicine to abortion was already tenuous.” The medical profession reinforced the outsider status of the clinics by not speaking out strongly after the first attacks. As abortion moved to the margins of medical practice, it also disappeared from residency programs that produced new doctors. In 1995, the number of OB-GYN residencies offering abortion training fell to a low of 12 percent.


(emphasis added)


As usual, much more at link than can be represented by 4 paragraphs.

In the earliest days of the women's rights movement, family planning and many of its tools, were illegal in the US. Birth control, even information/education about birth control, could result in jail time and/or fines. Abortion was one piece of the family planning tool kit. Education about their own bodies, their pregnancies and how to avoid pregnancy, i.e., birth control, were all once there and many have made it into the "mainstream;" well, at least if you have the money. Abortion, was the tool chosen to attack women with regard to family planning. Poverty and the "war on drugs" would be additional tools used against poor white women and all women of color.

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