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TIME: The President won....the assorted Republican drama queens seem so two months ago, don’t they?

How to Negotiate

By Joe KleinNov. 30, 2012

What is difficult for the Fox talking heads to understand is this: We had an election. The President won....the assorted Republican drama queens seem so two months ago, don’t they?

What is difficult for the Fox talking heads to understand is this: We had an election. The President won. This gives him greater leverage than the last election we had, in 2010, when the President’s party lost. It isn’t absolute leverage, obviously, but it’s more than he had. Wise Republicans know this score–and will negotiate as hard as they can to match the revenue increases with reasonable long-term entitlement cuts.

I suspect that we’ll go through the motions, clock ticking, right down thru Christmas week, creeping up till the New Year. Then we’ll have a last minute deal that includes slightly higher tax rates for the wealthy, entitlement cuts (including means-testing for old age entitlements) and the promise to sit down and figure out a broader tax reform, reducing the corporate tax rate in return for loophole closings, next year.

But the assorted Republican drama queens seem so two months ago, don’t they?


Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/30/how-to-negotiate/#ixzz2DkZarYxg

Go Nancy!: "Pelosi threatens discharge petition to force vote on middle-income tax cut extension."

FRI NOV 30, 2012 AT 11:04 AM PST
Nancy Pelosi threatens to escalate fiscal cliff fight
by Joan McCarter

Go Nancy!

Pelosi threatens discharge petition to force vote on middle-income tax cut extension.
— @brianbeutler via Janetter for Mac


So what does that mean? There's a bill, passed by the Senate way back in July, to extend just the tax cuts for the middle class. House Speaker Boehner has refused to bring this bill to the floor of the House. So Pelosi is mulling an effort to force leadership to take up that bill, which President Obama is ready to sign.

It's not going to be easy to achieve, because she needs 218 signatures for the petition to work, and that means getting 25 Republicans on board. But even if forcing the bill to the floor isn't likely, this would be another way to shine a bright light on the fact that Republicans are holding the middle-class tax cuts hostage on behalf of the wealthiest Americans. That doesn't look good, particularly in the weeks before Christmas, and will give Democrats another cudgel to beat Republicans with.

It's also possible that a few Republicans will jump ship, not wanting to be Scrooged, and that will just be yet another headache for Boeher. That's always a good thing.


UPDATE To include video:

Dems Laugh Off GOP Demand That They Make First Move On Medicare Benefit Cuts

Source: Talking Points Memo

Dems Laugh Off GOP Demand That They Make First Move On Medicare Benefit Cuts

The problem is, unlike the Democrats’ calls for higher taxes on rich Americans, the GOP’s preferred Medicare cuts are deeply unpopular. So they’re trying to cow Democrats into proposing these cuts first — to effectively author both sides of the proposal — and provide them political cover.

“We’ve come down with ours. We’re still waiting for theirs. That’s the status of the negotiations,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in the Capitol Thursday, laughing off the GOP’s demand.

Though the expiration of the Bush tax cuts provides Democrats enough leverage to ignore the GOP’s demand for Medicare cuts altogether, conversations with Senate Democratic aides reveal Democrats will accede to some modest spending reductions up front, so that Republicans will agree to simultaneously increase the debt ceiling and avoid another economically damaging standoff early next year.

Complicating matters for the GOP is the paradox that it’s easier, both politically and legislatively, to realize savings in Medicare by making the program more robust. Democrats are prepared push those sorts of reforms in 2013 when the two sides set about seeking a broader package of entitlement and tax reforms. In contrast, the Republican aim in these budget negotiations is to forge ahead with proposals designed to weaken the program, not to reduce spending on Medicare per se.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/dems-laugh-off-gop-demand-that-they-make-first-move-on-medicare-benefit-cuts.php?ref=fpblg

VIDEO: Sixth-Grader Explains “Fiscal Cliff,” Meets President

VIDEO: Sixth-Grader Explains “Fiscal Cliff,” Meets President

Noah Williams-Morrill, the West Reading Elementary student who made the “Sixth Grader Explains the Fiscal Cliff in 1 Minute” video below, has become famous enough that now he’ll get to meet President Obama today, during the president’s Philadelphia stop to rally supporters in favor of his fiscal plans. And if Williams-Morrill didn’t actually explain the fiscal cliff that well—if the problem isn’t that the government will run out of money, but rather that (for various reasons) a whole bunch of tax cuts on most Americans expire at the end of the year, meaning they’ll have smaller paychecks, buy less stuff, and thus cause a weak economy to go back into recession—well, it would be churlish to point that out, right? The kid’s a sixth-grader! And he’s meeting the president!


This is the Real whitey tape.

"Mitt Would Have Won If Nobody But White Folks Voted"

The Only Votes That Matter

According to an analysis by the Daily Yonder, which covers rural issues, rural presidential turnout dropped by twice the national average this year, sinking from 67.2 percent in 2008 to 54.9 percent.

Much of the erosion came from Democratic voters.

“Neither of the candidates inspired rural voters to go vote,” James Gimpel, a University of Maryland political scientist, told the Daily Yonder, “although there was even less enthusiasm for Obama than there was for Romney.”

Romney did, however, manage to win the rural vote by a higher percentage than John McCain. In 2008, McCain won 53.3 percent to Barack Obama’s 45.6 percent, but Romney won 58.9 percent among rural voters. That figure tracked almost exactly with George W. Bush’s rural performance in 2004.


Obama To Romney: "Let's Stay In Touch" Translated

The Civilest of Uncivil Lunches
posted by PAUL CONSTANT on THU, NOV 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Here, via NBC, is the White House report on President Obama and Mitt Romney's no-media lunch:

This afternoon, President Obama and Governor Romney visited for an hour over lunch in the Private Dining Room adjacent to the Oval Office. Governor Romney congratulated the President for the success of his campaign and wished him well over the coming four years. The focus of their discussion was on America's leadership in the world and the importance of maintaining that leadership position in the future. They pledged to stay in touch, particularly if opportunities to work together on shared interests arise in the future. Their lunch menu included white turkey chili and Southwestern grilled chicken salad.

1. As Boston.com notes, Mitt Romney kicked off his 2012 campaign by serving big bowls of Ann Romney’s turkey chili to fans in New Hampshire. There is no way that today’s menu was a coincidence.

2. “Let’s stay in touch, particularly if opportunities to work together on shared interests arise in the future” is the new “fuck you, you fucking fuck.”


Cat-Friend vs Dog-Friend

heh heh...just like that

ROLLING STONE Imagines Obama/Romney Lunch...

OBAMA: Um, cool. So, hey, Joe Biden's going to be here in a minute and a half to say some crazy stuff and take off the pressure a bit. Maybe we can just relax till then, what do you say?

ROMNEY: You mean, like, chill? I know that one. Tagg used that once when one of the help was slow in bringing foam armor suits for the Romney family's yearly Father-Son Test of Wills.

OBAMA: The help?

ROMNEY: Yeah, you know. (Talking fast])The people who bring you the things you can't reach. They're really helpful! That's why they're the help. (Hearty chuckle)

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/eavesdropping-on-obama-and-romneys-lunch-meeting-20121129#ixzz2Dj3zBtPn
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GOP: Well, We Used To Be Motivated By Simple Profit-NOW, We're Doing It Out Of Spite.

How the plutocrats are handling Mitt Romney’s loss:


Dear Washington douchebags: "JUMP"!


You don't like President Obama playing hardball with you fuckers do you?

Yeah that's right you frickin bastards. Obama won the goddamn election and you pundits and asswipes didn't. And guess what, here is his initial offer:

1. An immediate $1 trillion tax hike through higher top marginal income tax rates as well as higher taxes on both capital gains and dividends.
2. An agreement to raise $600 billion more in taxes later this year by limiting tax deductions for top earners.
3. $50 billion in new infrastructure stimulus spending.
4. Another “emergency” extension of unemployment benefits.
5. An extension of either the payroll tax cut or the reinstatement of Obama’s stimulus Making Work Pay tax credit.
6. A mortgage refinancing program.
7. Billions in new spending to prevent cuts to Medicare reimbursement payments for doctors.
8. An infinite debt limit hike.

You passed your Ryan Budget. Were here's the FUCK YOU to the Ryan Budget. And if you don't like it...JUMP MOTHERFUCKERS! Jump off the cliff you bastards! You don't like the offer...fine...stop negotiating. Mitch McConnell says he burst out laughing. I never heard a repressed turtle laugh, but i'm sure it sounds plenty goddamn good from the edge of a cliff or slope or promontory or whatever.

All I know is this, we Democrats stand firmly behind our president. If he's in your motherfucking face, we're happy about it. As far as I'm concerned, if you wont kneel and bow to your master, then go ahead and be ballsy and jump!

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