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Hitler never got near 50% of the German vote...

He manipulated his way to power via a back-channel deal with Paul von Hindenburg and Von Papen. The theory was that the non-Nazis could control Hitler somehow, which of course turned out to be wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Appointment_as_chancellor

He got 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German Presidential election versus 53% for Paul von Hindenburg. Ernst Thälmann of the KPD got the remaining 10.2%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidential_election,_1932


In the election above, the Nazis only gained 33.09% of the total Reichstag seats, but they were the largest party. They were definitely a threat to the democratic regime in power.

The main problem was that the civil authorities in Berlin and other cities allowed the SA to run wild in those street battles. I'm sure the Communists started some. The SA were also allowed into the Reichstag, where they were allowed to intimidate the other deputies. If the SA had been neutralized (and the violent communists), there's a chance Hitler would have never risen to power. A lot of this is from memory, so I don't have precise links at hand. I agree we should not be initiating fights with the Neo-Nazis but fighting them democratically and with armed self-defense if necessary.

take away the nazi flags and the uniforms and voila......





Blood and Soil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Soil

Blood and Soil (German: Blut und Boden) refers to a racist ideology that focuses on ethnicity based on two factors, descent blood (of a folk) and territory. It celebrates the relationship of a people to the land they occupy and cultivate, and it places a high value on the virtues of rural living.



NAZIS.... Hitler/fascist salute, yep, NAZIS

Sociopaths lie with ease and....


All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

It's been reported that Trump used to read Hitler's work regularly, on his night table

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”


http://forward.com/schmooze/318664/trump-and-hitler/

No surprise this is happening.
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