them from dying. They just played the earlier recording that many of us have seen but she is live now. She sounds really hoarse, like she is sick or has just been using her voice so much that she is hoarse. This is heart wrenching.

They are being asked to register on the internet for help and they have no internet!

From July 2017. Well worth listening to. Some things that surprised me. Lots about media streams shaping thinking and the digital manipulation behind it. Very important in this time. Would love to hear what you all think. Perceptive and funny as well.

"In an unmissable talk about race and politics in America, Theo E.J. Wilson tells the story of becoming Lucius25, white supremacist lurker, and the unexpected compassion and surprising perspective he found from engaging with people he disagrees with. He encourages us to let go of fear, embrace curiosity and have courageous conversations with people who think differently from us. "Conversations stop violence, conversations start countries and build bridges," he says."

This talk was presented to a local audience at TEDxMileHigh, an independent event. TED editors featured it among our selections on the home page.

https://www.ted.com/talks/theo_e_j_wilson_a_black_man_goes_undercover_in_the_alt_right?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-09-22&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_button#t-795689

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Theo E.J. Wilson encourages us to break through the divides that separate us.
Why you should listen

Theo E.J. Wilson is a founding member of the Denver Slam Nuba team, who won the National Poetry Slam in 2011. He's also know as slam poet Lucifury. He began his speaking career in the N.A.A.C.P. at the age of 15, and he has always had a passion for social justice. He attended Florida A&M University, where he obtained his B.A. in theater performance. Upon graduating, he interned as a full-time actor at the St. Louis Black repertory company.

Wilson is the executive director of Shop Talk Live, Inc. The organization uses the barbershop as a staging ground for community dialogue and healing. In 2013, Wilson began speaking with "Rachel's Challenge," an organization dedicated to ending school violence through compassion. After viral video success beginning in 2015, he published his first book in 2017, The Law of Action. The book addresses some of the misconceptions about the law of attraction and the role direct action plays into manifestation.

https://www.ted.com/speakers/theo_e_j_wilson?

New WaPo story RE Manafort subpoena docs. Money. Criminal stuff.
Now she's going into Mueller and all the info he's asked the WH for.

Rachel shows are turning into suspense thrillers.

when he talked about destroying NK. It was an insert in his speech; the speech writers did not put it there. Compared it to Adlai Stevenson talking to UN about the Cuban missile crisis and saying he was not there to score debate points, but to work for peace.

I sure hope the generals are doing something about keeping the football away from him.

Let Hillary Clinton roar
by Susan Bordo

Editors's note: Susan Bordo is the Otis A. Singletary Chair in the Humanities and Professor of Gender and Women's Studies at the University of Kentucky. Her new book is "The Destruction of Hillary Clinton." The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.

(CNN)Something very strange is going on in post-mortems about the 2016 election. On the one hand, the hard evidence is piling up that a combination of factors largely outside of Hillary Clinton's control were responsible for her loss to Donald Trump. On the other hand, many apparently don't want Hillary Clinton to talk about any of that.

(Lots snipped)

The fact is, consumers of the popular media -- and not just Fox -- were virtually bludgeoned into dislike and suspicion of Clinton. Even the most sympathetic op-eds invariably would genuflect to her "flaws." The caricatures, no matter how ill-founded, became nailed into popular consciousness. So should we be surprised to see them surface yet again in reaction to her book?

The mainstream media has also yet to speculate -- let alone diagnose -- what seems perfectly obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense: that Clinton's electoral college loss was certainly not primarily due to whatever mistakes she may have made, but an unusually multi-faceted and highly potent combination of disparate assaults: from the left, the right, the Russians, the FBI, a flagrantly lying opponent who made a chant of her suitability for prison, and yes, the media itself.

I mean, really: How could anyone have survived all that? It was, as she herself describes it, a perfect storm. Yet nearly 66 million stood by her, many of whom remain intensely devoted supporters.

When, too, has any election culminated in a greater disaster for democracy? No wonder the Democrats, the pundits, and the voters themselves are so eager to disown their own complicity and to cast Clinton as the sole cause of our present situation.

"She gave us Trump," disgruntled Sanders supporters like to say. No, Trump's win is the result of many things, and we would do better to try to unpack them with precision and a view to complexity rather than scapegoat Clinton or her campaign.

Hillary Clinton may have been a special kind of lightning rod, but the elements that brought her down are still bristling in our atmosphere, ready to strike again, and we need to face them. The fact is that is it only when we've done that that we will be able to truly "move on."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/opinions/let-hillary-clinton-roar-bordo/index.html

Entire interview well worth either reading or listening.

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/551217204/hillary-clinton-says-shes-optimistic-about-our-country-but-i-am-not-naive

Many of you noted Hillary saying T is a clear and present danger, but this really struck me:

"I’m hoping that on the really big issues, there’s enough authority to be able to restrain and contain the president."

I though of a couple recent threads where we were talking about hoping Mattis (or someone) can keep the nuclear football away from him, and asking what does it say about what we've come to when we are entertaining the idea of the general taking control of the president as being a potentially good thing.

The quote is from this segment of Rachel's interview:
"I’m hoping that the people who have a mature view of the exercise of power when it comes to something like NK …life or death …when it comes to something that would be incredibly stupid given NK …pulling out of the Iran deal so we have a second nuclear crisis to contend with …I’m hoping that on the really big issues, there’s enough authority to be able to restrain and contain the president.

This president and some of the people around him pose a clear and present danger to our country.

The people around him have to be our first line of defense against him doing something that could have serious repercussions."

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In his most stunning deal yet with Democratic leaders, Donald Trump agreed on Friday to be impeached by the end of 2017.

Emerging from an Oval Office meeting with Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a beaming Trump touted the deal for his imminent removal from office.

“Chuck and Nancy and I got a deal done on impeachment,” Trump said. “It was a good deal and it was a fast deal.”

Trump said that the Democrats had convinced him that agreeing to be impeached would make him soar in popularity. “People are going to love me for doing this,” Trump said. “They’re going to love it on all the channels.”

In a barb aimed at House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Trump said that the impeachment agreement was something he “never could have gotten done” with the Republican leadership.

“I went around and around with the Republicans for months on health care,” he said. “This meeting with Chuck and Nancy took, what, five minutes, and I could get back to watching TV.”

Hoping to capitalize on their momentum, Pelosi and Schumer said that they would meet with Trump next week to discuss the ouster of Vice-President Mike Pence.

Andy Borowitz is the New York Times best-selling author of “The 50 Funniest American Writers,” and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news, for newyorker.com.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/in-stunning-new-deal-with-democrats-trump-agrees-to-be-impeached

Talking North Korea and how we need the best people in the state dept. but it's been decimated. We need experienced diplomats and need them NOW.
"I kept waiting for the A-ha moment when Tillerson would call in experienced people and say tell me what i don't know, but it never happened."

"I'm hoping that on the really big issues (NK) there is enough authority to restrain the president."
RAchel: placing a lot of hope for the country on the people who surround him.
Hillary: we don't have much else.

Listen here if you don't have cable:
http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Upbraiding the ESPN anchor Jemele Hill for calling Donald Trump a “white supremacist,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said on Wednesday that “no one has done more than President Trump to prove that white people are not superior.”

“It’s grossly unfair that Ms. Hill sought to portray Donald Trump as an upholder of white supremacy, when everything he says or does directly undermines that whole concept,” Sanders said. “Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump is on some mission to make white people look good hasn’t been paying attention.”

Sanders urged the ESPN anchor to “do her homework” on Trump before making baseless allegations. “Read his tweets,” she said. “Listen to his speeches. If you still think Donald Trump is trying to prove that white people are superior, I tip my hat to you.”

Ending on a personal note, Sanders said that she was “a hundred-per-cent sure” that her boss is not a white supremacist. “Donald Trump cannot even spell the word ‘supremacist,’ ” she said.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/white-house-rejects-supremacist-label-no-one-has-done-more-than-trump-to-prove-white-people-are-not-superior