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So overall, what do you all think of the effectiveness of this 10 at a time debate format?

Seems to me like it isn't going to give the voting public much to go on as far as narrowing the field; not enough time to get into anything really substantive, but then that is often the case with debates.

I still like the candidates I liked and still don't like the ones I didn't. The ones who interrupt are obnoxious, and may well filter themselves out, but there are lot of candidates who are saying really good things and who are likable. It will be really interesting to see how this field gets narrowed down, but I really question if these debates help that process, other than weeding out the interrupters. That is if others also find that obnoxious.

Mostly my concern is if this will help the voters at all in making decisions. Seems there has to be a better way.

Curious to hear what your perspectives are.

Rachel covering Orlando Sentinal editorial in depth. Editor on next.

Rachel read most of it just before the break and pointed out that they usually endorse Rs.
He's on now. Letters to editor:
At this point, 112 liked it. 108 didn't.

SCOTUS Reaffirms 'Double Jeopardy' Exception With Mueller Probe Implications (good news!)

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday reaffirmed a 170-year-old exception to the Constitution’s double-jeopardy clause, and left the door open for state prosecutors to prosecute Trump campaign officials regardless of whether federal officials have already done so. The case, Gamble v. United States, has drawn attention for its potential effect on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s federal prosecutions on Russian interference in the 2016 election. Had the “dual sovereignty doctrine” been repealed, states would not be able to pursue investigations parallel to the federal government, the National Law Journal reports. State prosecutors in New York have brought charges against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort Jr., who was sentenced to seven and a half years in prison, in the event that President Trump pardons him.

In the 7-2 majority decision, Justice Samuel Alito Jr. wrote that the separate sovereigns exception “honors the substantive differences between the interests that two sovereigns can have in punishing the same act.”


Oregon governor Kate Brown signed 5 year fracking ban into law today!

Food and Water Watch was very involved with this. Just got an email from them today.

California State Capitol Flies LGBT Pride Flag for First Time Ever

Happy to have some GOOD news!


California raised the LGBT pride flag over its capitol building in Sacramento on Monday for the first time ever in the state’s history. “In California, we celebrate and support our lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer community’s right to live out loud—during Pride month and every month,” Governor Gavin Newsom (D) said in a press release. “By flying the pride flag over the State Capitol, we send a clear message that California is welcoming and inclusive to all, regardless of how you identify or who you love.”

California joins Colorado and Wisconsin this year in raising the pride flag for the first time. The decision came after several U.S. embassies flew the flag in defiance of a new State Department policy requiring diplomats to get top-level permission to put them up. The flag will remain raised at the California capitol for the remainder of LGBTQ Pride Month, until July 1.

Lawrence just reported on Kevin McCarthy saying Putin paid Trump! And Chris Hayes said it earlier.

Finally they are giving it air time. I have been waiting a long time for this. I could never understand why even people like Rachel didn't give it more attention. Now if they would just report the part of the tape where Paul Ryan said let's keep that in the family after McCarthy said he thought Putin was paying Trump.

Adam Schiff on Rachel: "I'm losing patience." RE subpeona Chris Wray.

Maybe Trump's comments today about FBI/Russia will push this over the edge. I can hope...

Oregon legislature passed National Popular Vote today! This makes 14 states + Wash. D.C.

Today the Oregon legislature passed National Popular Vote legislation -- an agreement between states to ensure that the national popular vote decides who wins in U.S. presidential elections.

The bill will now head to Governor Brown's desk for her signature.

Oregon will join 14 other states (and Washington, D.C.) that have already signed this agreement, representing a combined total of 189 Electoral College votes -- nearly 3/4ths of the Electoral College votes needed to put this reform into effect.
Americans generally assume that majority rules in choosing U.S. presidents, but as we’ve seen in multiple presidential elections -- including the most recent one -- it's possible to win the Electoral College vote without an actual majority of votes.

The National Popular Vote interstate compact provides a simple solution. States agree to allocate their electoral votes differently -- casting them for the winner of the national popular vote rather than state by state, winner-take-all. The compact will only take effect when enough states who together control a majority of Electoral College votes sign on.

The Oregon legislature passed the National Popular Vote bill through the House chamber today, having already passed it through the Senate chamber. It now goes to the governor for her signature.

From a Common Cause email today.

For anyone who would like some background, thanks to Pat k: https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

Very sweet video of OUR President. Caution: it will make you both happy and sad.

I'd seen many of these photos already, but there are also many I have never seen, even in Pete Souza's book.

No need to explain why it will make you both happy and sad.

Robert Mueller appreciation thread.

Whatever you may think about everything he's done and may wish he'd done differently, I believe he has always acted with the greatest integrity and with the intent of serving the best interests of the country. He has been in a very difficult position. He looked weary to me today when he was speaking. It's been a long and very intense road he's travelled.

And what he did today took a great deal of courage; essentially challenging the AG. I also believe he is strategically brilliant.

And this was extremely important, especially given Congressional Rs obstruction on doing anything about election attacks: "I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments — that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. That allegation deserves the attention of every American." This puts it in the face of the entire country. He made it clear it was vastly more than "meddling."

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