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pnwmom's JournalThanks for the quick replies about my lawsuit question -- yes, it got filed.
It's too bad for everyone it came to this.
Weaver at Presser says: nobody saved data. Bloomberg says data logs say: people saved data.
Update: I just found this. So there is a clear conflict here, still to be resolved:
http://www.ksla.com/story/30783481/sanders-campaign-denies-stealing-voter-data-threatens-legal-action
(RNN/CNN) - The campaign manager for Bernie Sanders strongly denied accusations they saved confidential voter information for Democratic rival Hillary Clinton after improperly accessing a protected database.
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"In the heat of these campaigns, sometimes young people make misjudgments," Weaver said. "No data that I'm aware of was saved in a way that could be used by anybody."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
Sanders’ campaign has sought to downplay the severity of the incident, initially saying that only a single “low-level” staffer accessed the Clinton data and that none of it was saved. But the database's logs created by the vendor that manages the data, NGP VAN, shows that four accounts associated with the Sanders team took advantage of the Wednesday morning breach. Staffers conducted searches that would be especially advantageous to the campaign, including lists of its likeliest supporters in 10 early voting states, including Iowa and New Hampshire.
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After one Sanders account gained access to the Clinton data, the audits show, that user began sharing permissions with other Sanders users. The staffers who secured access to the Clinton data included national data director Josh Uretsky, who was fired on Thursday, and his deputy, Russell Drapkin. The two other usernames that viewed Clinton information were “talani" and "csmith_bernie," created by Uretsky's account after the breach began.
Though the Sanders campaign initially claimed that it had not saved Clinton data, the logs show that the Vermont senator’s team created at least 24 lists during the 40-minute breach, which started at 10:40 a.m., and saved those lists to their personal folders. The Sanders searches included New Hampshire lists related to older voters, "HFA Turnout 60-100" and "HFA Support 50-100," that were conducted and saved by Uretsky. Drapkin's account searched for and saved lists including "HFA Support <30" in Iowa and "HFA Turnout 30-70"' in New Hampshire.
Uretsky told CNN on Friday that he probed the Clinton data to get a sense of the full extent of the problem, but the breach was reported to NGP VAN by a third party, not by the Sanders campaign, a source familiar with the investigation said. "We knew there was a security breach in the data, and we were just trying to understand it and what was happening," he said. "To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit."
Watching MSNBC. Did anyone else hear Steve say that NBC
was reporting that it had evidence that Sanders campaign staffers had downloaded HRC campaign lists?
Debbie Wasserman Schulz and the Wasserman associated with the software vendor
do not have the same parents, were not born in the same state, are 17 years apart in age, and Wikipedia doesn't link them at all.
However, a new conspiracy theory has been born!
The software vendor's audit revealed, with regard to the DNC data breach,
"'at this point that no campaigns have access to or have retained any voter file data of any other clients, with one possible exception, which is the Sanders campaign,' he said."
but that seems to conflict with this statement by the same vendor spokesman:
"He tried to minimize the effect of the bug, saying that only for a brief window were some data for one campaign viewable by others but that they couldn't export, save or act on it."
which seems to conflict with Josh Uretsky's statement that he went into the system to "create a record" showing how he improperly had access to the material.
So it makes sense that the DNC needs to get to the bottom of this and to make sure that no voter file data or modeling has been retained.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-sanders-campaign-data-breach-20151218-story.html
More on Josh Uretsky's statement here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251909206
Josh Uretsky offers his explanation of why he improperly accessed HRC's files.
Also, for the holdouts convinced it was just a low-level staffer -- it wasn't. And it was not honest for Weaver to pretend it was.
If what Uretsky says is true -- that he got in the system to "create a record" --- then HRC's info did end up in their system. So it is legitimate for the DNC to want proof that it has been removed.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/sanders-dnc-data-breach-josh-uretsky/
Uretsky says he got into the system to create a record to make it clear to anyone with NBG-VAN knowledge that he was "going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."
NGP-VAN is the technology company that provides campaigns access to the voter files.
The point: He wanted people with knowledge of the voter files to be able to clearly see that he was testing the depth of the breach.
"This wasn't the first time we identified a bad breach in the NGP-VAN system," he said. "In retrospect, I got a little panicky because our data was totally exposed, too. We had to have an assessment, and understand of how broad the exposure was and I had to document it so that I could try to calm down and think about what actually happened so that I could figure out how to protect our stuff."
ABC: voters say Bernie is more honest and Hillary is more empathic
and Hillary is closer to them on the issues.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-takes-big-lead-debate-trustworthiness-deficit-poll/story?id=35826529
Clinton leads Bernie Sanders by 31 percentage points, 59-28 percent, among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents who are registered to vote in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, with Martin O’Malley in the single digits.
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And Clinton does have a prominent difficulty –- a trustworthiness deficit. Even with her overall lead, 44 percent of leaned Democrats say Sanders is more honest and trustworthy, vs. 38 percent who pick Clinton. She’s particularly vulnerable in this area among whites (a 26-point Sanders advantage) and political independents (Sanders +25).
Clinton manages 30 percent support from those who see Sanders as more honest and trustworthy, one reason her overall support overcomes the trust deficit. Further, she far surpasses Sanders on other measures in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates – by 64-26 percent on who’d better handle the threat of terrorism, 54-37 percent on who’s closer to potential voters on the issues and 51-38 percent in empathy, as well as her lead in vote preference.
Clinton’s support is very near her average, 63 percent, in 10 ABC/Post polls to include her and Sanders this cycle, with a range from 56 to 69 percent. Sanders, for his part, peaked at 34 percent last month before slipping back in this survey. O’Malley’s 5 percent, low as it is, is a new high for him.
Why didn't the Sanders campaign allow their National Data Director simply to resign?
If they knew he did nothing seriously wrong but just wanted to put this behind them?
Why did they take the extreme action of firing him instead of accepting his resignation?
Either he did do something seriously wrong OR the Sanders campaign is making a scapegoat of an innocent man -- or, at the worst, a human being who made a mistake. A man who should have been allowed to resign.
Which is it?
P.S.
You don't normally throw someone under a bus unless a bus is coming.
Bloomberg: Sanders campaign has fired its National Data Director, Josh Uretsky,
after he improperly accessed proprietary HRC data.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign has fired its national data director after he improperly accessed proprietary data from Hillary Clinton's campaign.
The staffer, Josh Uretsky, viewed data that the Clinton campaign had added to its own files during a temporary glitch in the voter database managed by outside vendor NGP VAN, two people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg.
The Sanders campaign confirmed late Thursday that it had fired a staffer who had accessed modeling data from the Clinton campaign. "That behavior is unacceptable and that staffer was immediately fired," communications director Michael Briggs said in a statement.
Briggs responded to a question about Uretsky by sharing that statement with Bloomberg a second time.
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