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They're the same sort of people that opposed Loving v Virginia. Point it out to them.

Hell, sometimes they are the same people....
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:50 PM (1 replies)

Republi-bigots have a sad over DOMA decision, go full Lovejoy.

I was flipping through TV channels while eating lunch, and came upon C-SPAN with a group of House
Republicans (all looking in need of of some serious laxatives) bemoaning the DOMA and Prop. 8

I says to myself: "Wait for it, you know one or more of them will Lovejoy this sooner or later"

Sure enough, some git from Texas named Weber starts banging on about how 'traditional marriage'
is best for children, et cetera, et cetera...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:37 PM (2 replies)

An attempt to revive the "CCW increases homicides" myth...

...over at that other group:


Note that this is less than a week after I debunked this claptrap the first time:


I suppose persistence is supposed to make up for the demonstrable inaccuracy.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:27 AM (15 replies)

My Little Droney: Surveillance Is Magic

By Christopher F. Smith,
from Murmuration: A Festival of Drone Culture
(via BoingBoing)


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:03 AM (0 replies)

Thanks to DU, I now realize I'm a racist.

I sincerely believed that I was supporting Ed Markey over Gabriel Gomez in the Massachusetts US
Senate election because Gomez' policy stances are repulsive to me.

I now realize that was simply false consciousness, and my animus against Gomez was personal because
he's Hispanic...

Thanks to those DUers who helped me figure this out!
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:44 PM (9 replies)

Better that than threatening to support Greens, Pubbies, and independents...

if a Democratic candidate is not antigun enough to suit you:


If you cannot in good conscience avoid working against (or at least remain silent about) a progun
Democrat that's running for office in a general election, this is not the message board for you. This is Democratic Underground, not Antigun Underground

You are perfectly free to feel as you feel and act as you see fit, on your own time.

However,if you should advocate acting against a Democrat in a general election here, you will be alerted on
as that is a TOS violation.

(Note: I modified that to make it clear I am talking about general elections, not Democratic primaries)
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:51 PM (0 replies)

How many Democrats has Michael Bloomberg funded against Republicans so far?

During a discussion of

Bloomberg Asks Donors to Shut Wallets Over Senators’ Gun Votes


an excellent question was raised by DUer sarisataka here:


How many Democrats has he funded

against Republicans so far? I am aware he has funded Democrats against Democrats but I am not aware of any specific funding of a Democratic candidate against a (R)epublican one.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:13 PM (12 replies)

Not the first time one of you lot has been caught peddling faith-promoting rumor

It's okay, Robb- we understand that "higher truth" is more important that grubby fact.

Your OP ranks with this one:


Three more innocent people shot today in FL
by a previously law abiding gun owner...


31. He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests.

You have been solidly caught making stuff up for your agenda. Commonly called lying.


Records in Florida and Rhode Island show Baumet has been previously arrested for domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and drug possession.

The article doesn't specifically say but I would bet that there are some convictions in there too.

Mugshot here: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Seminole-County-FL/Bradford-Baumet.2558615.html

There was also the African-American white supremacist, the "man with an AK47 in Moscow, Idaho",
and the "gun control activist" that claimed to work for Cease-Fire Oregon in Portland and the United Nations
in Italy-simultaneously...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:34 PM (0 replies)

Watch The One Senator Who Voted Against The Patriot Act Warn What Would Happen (VIDEO)


...One provision that troubles me a great deal is a provision that permits the government under FISA to compel the production of records from any business regarding any person, if that information is sought in connection with an investigation of terrorism or espionage.

Now we're not talking here about travel records pertaining to a terrorist suspect, which we all can see can be highly relevant to an investigation of a terrorist plot. FISA already gives the FBI the power to get airline, train, hotel, car rental and other records of a suspect.

But under this bill, the government can compel the disclosure of the personal records of anyone -- perhaps someone who worked with, or lived next door to, or went to school with, or sat on an airplane with, or has been seen in the company of, or whose phone number was called by -- the target of the investigation.

And under this new provisions all business records can be compelled, including those containing sensitive personal information like medical records from hospitals or doctors, or educational records, or records of what books someone has taken out of the library. This is an enormous expansion of authority, under a law that provides only minimal judicial supervision.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:14 PM (1 replies)

Secret court judge attended expenses-paid terrorism seminar (run by a Koch grantee)


Secret court judge attended expenses-paid terrorism seminar
Lecturers included advocate for strong executive powers

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson, who signed an order requiring Verizon to give the National Security Agency telephone records for tens of millions of American customers, attended an expense-paid judicial seminar sponsored by a libertarian think tank that featured lectures from a vocal proponent of executive branch powers.

Vinson, whose term on the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court began in 2006 and expired last month, was the only member of the special court to attend the August 2008 conference sponsored by the Foundation for Research on Economics & the Environment, according to disclosure records filed by the federal judge...

...But Eric Posner, a University of Chicago law professor who delivered two lectures, argued in a 2007 book he co-wrote — Terror in the Balance: Security, Liberty, and the Courts — that “the executive branch, not Congress or the judicial branch, should make the tradeoff between security and liberty.”

The book also asserts that while “no one doubts that injustices occur during emergencies, the type of judicial scrutiny that would be needed to prevent the injustices that have occurred during American history would cause more harm than good by interfering with justified executive actions.”

If you read down at the first link, you will find that FREE (love the Orwellian acronym) received >$400,000 dollars
from the Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, which is run by Charles Koch:


(note: emphasis added)

...The brothers refer to their philanthropic work as the “Koch Family Foundations.” Listed on the Koch Industries Inc. web site are the Fred C. and Mary R. Koch Foundations (the deceased parents of Charles and David); the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation and the Kansas Cultural Trust, renamed the Koch Cultural Trust in 2008. The web site does not list the Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation which is controlled by Charles Koch.

Claude Lambe was a real estate developer and insurance broker in Kansas. He invested in a company formed by Fred Koch in 1934, the Buffalo Oil Corporation. Lambe’s wife, Pauline, died in 1976; Lambe died in 1981. According to a Koch Industries publication, Charles Koch was left in charge of Lambe’s estate. Charles Koch and his wife, Elizabeth, serve as Directors on the Foundation’s board. Hopefully, Lambe wanted to fund all of these right wing causes because that’s what his foundation has been doing since his death.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:35 PM (4 replies)
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