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Wypipo Poll

There is still a lot of discussion back and forth about the term "Wypipo." I have my own opinion about how the views break down between the two sides and along and within racial lines- but it's largely anecdotal and I'd like to get a chance better sense of where people are on this.

This thread is not an invitation to fight about this - there are plenty of other threads where that's taking place, so please don't launch into any arguments here. I'm just trying to "read the room," so I'd appreciate it if you would just answer the poll without a lot of unnecessary commentary.


Lecia Michelle: "If you want to call me divisive because I talk about race, I'm here for all of it."

"But if I have to accept that label, so do white people."

Just so we’re on the same page, let’s define the word. This is according to Cambridge English Dictionary:

Divisive: tending to cause disagreements that separate people into opposing groups.

Yeah, that’s probably me. So from now on, when I talk to white people about race, I’m going to separate them into two groups. The first group will consist of white people who sincerely want to join the fight against racism and oppression. I’ll call them “potential allies.” The second group, I’m going to call “White people who ain’t shit.” To help you figure out which group you’re in, if you hear black folks talking about racism and you call them “divisive,” “angry” or “racist,” then you ain’t shit.
But here’s the deal. If I have to embrace that label, then white people, you do too. Let’s talk about that, shall we?

If a black person is talking about her experience with racism and your immediate response is to spew something that derails the conversation and centers it on both yourself and how we all need to come together as people and not talk about race, then congratulations. You’re divisive. Why, you ask? Because when black people discuss the violent nature of racism and how it personally affects us, we’re opening ourselves up and being vulnerable so that we can try to enact real change. We share our stories so that you, as a white person, can understand what we encounter in this country. We hope that you then join us in taking up the mantle of racial justice so that we can all fight against racism and white supremacy. If your answer to this is to dismiss our experiences, then you are divisive. And racist.
If a black man says he was pulled over for “driving while black” and your response is anything vaguely similar to “not everything is about race,” then you’re divisive. For context, I don’t know one black man who hasn’t experienced being pulled over because they fit the description of the suspect or they drive a nice car that police assume they stole — or a myriad of any other racist reasons. Do white men experience the same thing? Of course not. Why do white people think we share these stories? For attention? No. We share them for change.

Dear White People: If you see something, say something

There has been some discussion ‘round these parts about whether white people who witness racist behavior should get involved or just let the person or persons targeted “handle it themselves.”

While I always took it as a given that any woke white person seeing such a thing should, unquestionably, say something and not just leave it to minorities to fend for ourselves, apparently, there are some white folk stuck on the idea that if we’re doing a “good job” defending ourselves and/or calling out the racist aggressor, they need not say or do anything but watch - and, likely afterward tell their friends about it and, of course, bemoan how awful it was to see, no doubt feeling very good about their outrage.


In fact, that attitude is the very epitome of white privilege at its worst, which allows you to be a bystander, sending silent thoughts and prayers while we fend off your white breathren who, no doubt, take great comfort in your silence and assume, not unreasonably, that it means you agree with them or, at the very least, don’t object strongly enough to their words and behavior to say anything.

So, let me lay it out for you.

I cannot count how many times I have been in these situations - if you are black in America, they happen all the time. This is an exhausting, frustrating everyday reality for us. Not only do we have to deal with the attack, we then have to make all manner of split-second and diamondcut precise calculations that would challenge the Hidden Figures.

Is this racism or is this guy just a jerk to everyone? Do I respond or let it go? If I let it go, am I condoning his behavior? If I don’t try to put him in check, am I leaving him free to do this to someone else who may not be able to protect themselves? And if I DO challenge him, is he dangerous? Could I get hurt? Is there anyone here who will take my side and back me up or am I on my own? And what will everyone here think of me? Will I look crazy or unhinged? Will it affect me or my reputation or job or future in some way? Is it worth it?

And all of this takes place in a fraction of a second while our hearts are pounding, stomachs churning and blood rushing in our ears. And when we DO say something, it’s all we can do to stay calm, continue breathing, keep our voices from shaking too much, and not yell like a crazy person.

Let me tell you - you don’t really know the meaning of “lonely” until you feel what it’s like to have to do all of this ALL BY YOURSELF while your fellow human beings stand around looking at you as if none of this has anything to do with them.

So, given all we have to deal with when confronted with this, is it really too much to ask that you stop sipping your latte long enough to support us with a word or a gesture? It’s not enough that, afterward, you pat us on the back and say, “Wow. That was awful. But YOU were GREAT!” or tell your friends about how awesome we were long after the fact. We need your audible, visible support RIGHT THERE, IN THAT MOMENT.

If you’re truly an ally, that means doing more than standing around watching us fight the battle. SAY SOMETHING! And, even if you don’t want to say anything, step up and DO SOMETHING, even if it’s just standing next to us on our side facing down the ugly.

When you see a white person display bigotry or hatred, don’t just stand there. SAY something. Even if you think the POC has it under control, don’t just stand there, SAY something. Of COURSE we have it under control. We’ve been dealing with this crap all of our lives. We almost always figure out how to handle it and then take care of our business and we manage to do it while having to assess in real time, on the fly, in public, in the middle of the situation exactly what to do and how to do it and then actually pull it off - like Rogers dancing as well as Astaire, but backwards and in high heels - while y’all stand there staring at us and supposedly send good thoughts our way that, for all we know, could just as easily be good thoughts you’re sending to our attacker since we can’t tell if YOU DON’T SAY ANYTHING!

Now, let’s be clear. By “say something,” I don’t mean jumping all up in it like you’re our Great White Hope. And I certainly don’t mean you should put yourself in harm’s way or turn this into a fight about you. But a word, a gesture - sometimes just physically stepping up and standing next to us can make a huge difference.

Because here’s the deal: we don’t need your help. But we do need your support. And we need your support then and there in that moment in time and it needs to be heard and seen, not just by us, but everyone there.

There’s a reason hardly anyone remembers the ballplayers who sat in the dugout and stood around the field being impressed by how much dignity Jackie Robinson showed when he withstood the racist taunts from the crowds, but there IS a statue of Pee Wee Reese standing with his arm around his friend.

Be Pee Wee Reese.

Thank you in advance.


Effie Black

Add "Being Naked While Black" to the list: "Being Naked Doesn't Remove the Threat"

The naked man shot by police after he shut down traffic on Interstate 95 in Richmond Monday has died, according to Richmond Police. He was identified by police as Marcus-David L. Peters, 24, of the 6700 block of Dartmouth Avenu

Shortly after 5:30 p.m., Peters was observed driving a sedan that struck another vehicle at the intersection of W. Franklin and N. Belvidere Streets. Peters fled the scene in his vehicle, according to police. An RPD officer pursued Peters northbound and onto the I-95 on-ramp.

Police said that Peters lost control of his vehicle after he struck two other vehicles on the on-ramp. Peters emerged from his disabled vehicle and ran into the northbound lanes of I-95. He was not wearing any clothes.

Peters then ran back towards the on-ramp and charged the RPD officer, who deployed his Taser in an effort to disable Peters. It proved ineffective, so the officer fired his service weapon, striking Peters, who was unarmed. Peters was transported to a local medical center where he died shortly after midnight.

"We are all deeply affected by what happened here – by the loss of life," Richmond Police Chief Alfred Durham said in a statement released by Richmond Police. "Our officers do not take the use of deadly force lightly. I think it’s important to remember that being naked does not remove a threat.

Trump collecting the Nobel Peace Prize


Was the term "oligarchy" a common term in our political discourse prior to 2016?

If not, how and why did it become so ubiquitous?

Fun Fact:

Queen Elizabeth spent more time in the armed forces than the entire Trump family and their in-laws combined.

I wish the crack epidemic had received the same attention, concern, and empathy as the opioid crisis

and not been treated as a moral problem that needed to be criminalized.

If so, we might not even have an opioid problem today, since we would have put into place mindsets. processes, and infrastructures to address this kind of drug problem.

Dear Police Officers of America:

Be this guy.


Thank you in advance.

Effie Black

I wonder where Avenatti learned to play the dozens


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