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CNN: This is why everyday racial profiling is so dangerous

The headlines pop up with alarming frequency: People of color going about their daily business -- shopping, golfing, moving in -- only to have the cops called on them.

But for every story that makes the news, there are countless others that don't involve police. Black customers who get followed too closely by store employees. Hispanic students and Muslims who get asked if they're really American.

This is everyday racial profiling -- and it doesn't just hurt the victims. It has an insidious ripple effect on the rest of society -- in business, health and public safety.
But there's a hidden and much more common danger to racial profiling -- long-term health problems.

"There are enormous health consequences to those experiencing these everyday harms ... because of the constancy of this stress," said Rachel Godsil of the Perception Institute, a research group that helps organizations reduce discrimination.

Godsil urges those who are white to think about what it must be like to live under a cloud of suspicion and to acknowledge that. "That's something that those of us who are white never have to think about," she said.


Police drag 65-year-old woman out of her car. Guess what race she is ...


If you want to get your blood pumping this morning, read the comments. Sound familiar?

Nunes may be in Mueller's sights


John Pavlovitz: "People of Color, Here's How You Can Help Scared White People"

People of Color, Here’s How You Can Help Scared White People

To People of Color Living in America,

I’m not sure whether you’ve noticed, but a lot of us white Christian folks here in America are really on edge these days ... Anyway, we could really use your help by doing what you can to put us at ease in such emotionally charged times.

Here are a few suggestions:

Don’t linger in coffee shops… or restaurants… or campuses… or parks.

Sure, I know it looks as though they’ve been purposefully designed to be places people feel comfortable and want to relax while waiting for, you know, meetings and stuff. But your quiet presence will draw our attention and disturb us to the point that we will be compelled to call the police or a manager or the news. Please place your order immediately prior to sitting or using the bathroom, and when finished, move along quickly so we can enjoy our lattes and waffles in peace.
Do not protest
Don’t use the First or Second Amendments.


This may all sound demanding, but you’ll have to bear with us. We’re fragile, easily frightened, and conditioned by pastors, GOP politicians, and FoxNews to believe we are perpetually in danger—and that you are one of our greatest threats ... So friends of color, given how terrified we are of you—if you’d indulge our prejudice, privilege, and paranoia by modifying your behavior, attitude, countenance, and body language accordingly—we’d greatly appreciate it.


Lots of Scared White People


We need to add "Promming While Black" to the list


"Future of the Party" vs. "Shut Up and Go Away"


I suspect Trump and Cohen thought "Oh, Sh!t! Now we're REALLY screwed" when Schneiderman resigned

I have little doubt that Trump, Cohen and their thugs were already well aware of Schneiderman’s -shall we say - predilections. Those kind of things rarely operate completely in the dark, especially when they involve a high profile political person. They may have been waiting to spring them at just the perfect time - either on hm as blackmail to get him to lay off or on the public to humiliate and discredit him if he refused.

But Ronan Farrow, Jane Mayer and the women got the jump on them, put it out there, got him out of there at a fairly early point in the investigation. The case can continue to move forward under new, unsullied leadership and there’s not much Trump and his people can say without looking like ridiculous hypocrites (although that doesn’t usually stop them ...). And now all those transcripts and tapes and photos and statements they surely were compiling can just go into the trash, unused.

I tend to usually be a political optimist, so maybe I’m drinking from a half-full glass, but I think this will turn out to be a win for the good guys.

Some observations about our stories of racial discrimination

A few days ago, I posted an OP asking white DUers to share their stories about being discriminated against because of their race. We got some amazing, interesting and very personal responses. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210583000

This came as a followup to an earlier OP in which I asked DUers of color to share their experiences with discrimination. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210513797

I posted some observations last night in the thread but am making it an OP for greater visibility:

First, this has been an awesome discussion. Those of you who shared stories have really educated and enlightened me and, I’m sure, many others who read them whether they said anything or not.

I commented on many of your stories. But the others I just read and thought about. Everything doesn’t need commentary.

It’s great that you persisted and stayed honest and focused, and didn’t get caught up in any of the distractions and foolishness that cropped up.

As I read your stories, I noticed a pattern - not universal, but a distinct pattern. Most of the negative experiences you had with racism and discrimination occurred on an individual basis, rather than at an institutional level. In other words, they involved encounters with individuals displaying individual, albeit often hateful, bias. That’s not to discount or diminish the experiences - they were still negative and difficult and unfair - but that’s what I saw.

This is an interesting contrast to the stories shared by minority DUers. Most our stories seemed to focus much more on instances of institutional and systemic discrimination. For example, they were more likely to involve people in positions of authority or power over us or larger institutions in society (or people backed up by such power or institutions), e.,g, police, employers, etc. Again, I’m not suggesting that one type of discrimination is worse or harder or easier or less fair or more cruel than another. Getting beaten up in a parking lot because you’re white is not less horrific, frightening or wrong than getting pulled over by a cop for driving while black. But the dynamics are different.

As I think about this distinction, it occurs to me that this might help explain some of the disconnect in our discussions.

One of the really clear sticking points seems to be that minority DUers feel that white DUers are quick to scoff at and dismiss the existence of institutional racism. They often approach our attempts to point it out as unreasonable and unfair, and an attempt to blame all white people for racism.

On the other hand, many white DUers seem to resent what they believe is a refusal of minorities to recognize that, even if they do have certain privileges, those privileges don’t prevent them from ever being discriminated against. And pointing that out doesn’t necessarily mean they’re trying to co-opt or piggyback discrimination faced by minorities.

I think that, given their own personal experiences of being victimized by personal, individual instances of discrimination and lack of experience as victims of larger, systemic racism, many whites just can’t identify with or relate to the latter as a real thing. They don’t see it because they haven’t seen it in their own lives and, therefore, don’t recognize it and don’t understand it.

By the same token, many minorities may have trouble appreciating how whites feel when their experiences a victims are shooed away as no big deal. This may be because minorities have had to deal with those individual experiences as well as the larger institutional ones and those are things we just expect and deal with on a daily basis - and the fact that they’re so common to us makes them seem like not a big deal - at least not in comparison with the bigger systemic crap we have to deal with. So we brush it off when we see it happen to other people with a “Welcome to MY world” casualness, which isn’t always fair to the people who also have to deal with it, even though they may not have to grapple with the more pervasive and sinister forms of discrimination.

So, if nothing else, I hope people will take away from this - I know I will - a better sense of where people who don’t look like us aren’t coming from. And that while it’s clear that whites and minorities are not subjected to equivalent levels and degrees of racism and discrimination - since it’s can’t be disputed that minorities have faced and will continue to face much harsher treatment - our own experiences can provide us a starting point for more empathy for people who don’t look like us.

I think he probably didn't want to Expose himself to that - no telling what else would come out

He resigned in record speed.

My Message to Eric Schneiderman: Boy Bye

I don't care that you have a D behind your name or that you've been a huge asset in various much-needed investigations.

See ya.
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