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Two things that DU'ers get wrong every time

1. Trump wouldn't fire Mueller because all hell would break loose.

2. There will come a tipping point in which Trump's baggage will outweigh his good and the Repulsicans will impeach.

No hell will break loose if Trump dismisses Mueller. The GOP has no conscience. Nor do their constituents. Even if Trump admitted colluding with the Russians, Republicans from east to west and north to south would dig in deeper. They do not intend to release their stranglehold, particularly after grabbing power so completely. They relish the fact that liberals are powerless in Congress to undermine them. With no fear of reprisal, Mueller's growing investigation will only embolden them. They won't buckle. They will continue what they're doing, thumb their noses at us, and challenge us to beat them in 2018 and 2020, which we may be able to do....except, of course, that the fix is already in for those elections too.

Tipping point? Won't happen. For that it would take FOX and Rush and all the gang to throw Trump under the bus, and why would they do that when they can simply continue to produce unsubstantiated garbage aka propaganda to counter the truth, and then establish a false equivalency? Bait the peanut gallery into believing in a deep state and exploit their knee jerk hatred of "liberals".

Our only hope remains with a relentless intelligence community and judiciary. And even that may not be enough.

I guess I need my fix of Rachel to return a bit of optimism into my perspective.

Democrats need to start their own GOP/Russia 'war room'

Hearing that Trump was in the process of establishing a 'war room' to combat allegations of his collusion with Russia, I thought it might be a very good idea for the Democrats to begin to set up their own version of a 'war room'. I imagine an organization staffed with dozens of true patriots, fending off disinformation and the outright lies that we know await us from the right, and setting the record straight before those lies gain traction.

We must NEVER allow Republicans to disavow or deny their connection and allegiance to Trump, from campaign through impeachment and imprisonment. They cannot claim that they never supported him; they cannot pass him off as a liberal or a Democrat. They own him. They need to be forever joined at the hip, indivisible, linked in shame.

And while they're at it, the Democratic 'war room' should also fend off any efforts by the Republican Party to repudiate the entire party's collusion with Mother Russia and reliance on her riches to line their coffers. This must be a talking point for time immemorial, to remind the American people of the treachery and subversion evidenced by fact and adjudicated in our most revered system of justice.

Never again. When the history books are written, this will be one of our darkest chapters. We can't allow 'them' to control the narrative and diminish their culpability and with it the overtly sinister nature of their behavior.

Follow the evidence. Follow the money.

Follow the Yellow Sick Toad.

Why should we care what the Republicans have to say about this?

We know they won't do anything.

We know they won't reference their prior statements about divulging classified information and label themselves hypocrites.

We know they'll whistle by the graveyard as they dodge, deflect and obfuscate.

What MATTERS is what Democrats have to say about this. And how many Democrats have something to say about this. And how frequently these Democrats have something to say about this.

Let's face it, those mongrels on the right sure know how to grab ahold of a shin, bury their teeth and dig in for months and years at a time.

Congressional Democrats, the ball is in your court.


Describe the carnage: what IF Trump went down?

More pointedly, how would America cope if criminal charges were brought against Trump, against Ivanka, against Uday, against Qusay, against Kushner, against his VP, his cabinet, his advisors, his attorney, his campaign aides, against several Congressmen and women, against Congressional staff, and beyond...and what if all of them were card-carrying members of the Republican Party?

Think of the millions of Americans who identify themselves as Republicans and their reaction to this criminal round-up. They're already conditioned to see American politics as an us versus them game. Many of them have been programmed to believe that all of this is a hoax, a scam, a political witch hunt arising out of Democrats' anger for losing the election. What would they do if indictments were laid down, arrest warrants issued? Could this country withstand the protests and obfuscations of millions upon millions of aggrieved Republicans...even if based on evidence corroborated by our intelligence agencies and other intelligence agencies around the world, even if tried in American courts of law with all due process?

Think of the FBI and the DOJ, gathering evidence of inconceivable breadth and reach, against federal level government officials. They must wonder what the end game of all of this will be. They must carry a burden that none of us could fathom, our delicate democracy teetering in the balance, countered by a duty to seek justice against those who would undermine the very fabric of our nation.

What would happen if EVERYONE who violated federal law was brought to justice? Would we survive?

Trump is unhinged and is getting backed into a corner

Do you fear what I fear?

Trump's "nuclear option" would be to exercise his nuclear option.

If this man freaks out because the walls are closing in on him, as the ultimate distraction, I fear that he would drop a nuclear weapon on NK, or Iran, or wherever his pudgy little digit directed it.

Trump's crimes that preceded his presidency are destined to bring him down. RICO violations, obstruction of justice, income tax evasion. He stands to spend the balance of his days behind bars and to lose every ill-gotten asset in his name.

To an egotistical bastard like Trump, I bet he would rather die than face those consequences. OR...he would rather bring all of us down with him.

Would all those terrific "generals" he goes on about thwart an ill-advised nuclear attack in that event? God help us all.

1. The threat of a Russia-compromised Trump is the single-most sensational news item now or ever

2. The Republicans in Congress have stonewalled, dissembled and all-but-quashed the respective investigations of their intelligence committees, and would surely suffocate any effort to appoint a special counsel.

3. The Department of Justice is understaffed, in disarray, running on fumes, and the chief investigator has resigned her post.

4. The Trump administration continues to throw nails on the road to impede and misdirect any media or intelligence community inquiries or investigations.

5. The international IC has been attempting to rectify this assault on our very sovereignty by leaking copious amounts of information to allegedly unreliable bloggers and news reporters, but the mainstream media seems disinterested and non-committal.

6. The FBI is either slow walking their investigation or is in the process of uncovering the MOAScandals in real time, pulling in co-conspirators by the dozen.

7. Rachel Maddow is the pinnacle of mainstream reporting on the subject, but her reports don't seem to resonate or escalate the conversation at a speed that seems commensurate with the gravity of the subject.

8. Republicans in all positions of leadership are abdicating their solemn duty to protect our sovereignty.

9. Republicans in all positions of leadership have attacked our sovereignty, but the divisive nature of our nation permits them to claim partisanship as the underpinning of our dismay.

10. The path to justice seems blocked at every corridor. Will the FBI pursue this as a non-partisan criminal investigation and hand out indictments? Is that the course of events that need to take place? If not the FBI, who? Is Comey the good cop or the bad cop?

Seems like it's been ages since our last #TrumpRussia blockbuster report

Please, Rachel, dish some more dirt. We need to wipe this faux military attack off of the news cycles and replace it with more evidence of Trump/Russia collusion in the 2016 election.

Nothing else matters. Nothing. Just getting this poser out of the White House so he can't inflect any more damage to our country's reputation.

Can't wait to add Trump to that number


Moving forward, the best way to discern fact from fiction in the ongoing #TrumpRussia saga

Is to completely ignore every single utterance of Trump and his administration. Period.

It's called misdirection. Propaganda. Spoken by the perpetrator, publicized by PRAVDA, also known as FOX, or vice versa.

It's hiding in plain sight. Otherwise good Americans have been snookered.

As the evidence against Trump piles up, look the other way when any tweet or Spicer statement infiltrates our media. They want us to change directions, to corrupt the spoor that the true investigation leads us to.

We could easily morph from the USA to the USSR otherwise.
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