DonCoquixote
DonCoquixote's Journalre Alabama: I hate to be paranoid but
How much you wanna bet Bannon is trying to stir up some "lone Gunmen" to get revenge or intimidate people. I would not put it past the folks that brought you Charlottesville to pull some sort of crap, especially as in Alabama is easy to get guns.
one lesson to take from tonight
the 50 state strategy STILL WORKS. We need to be involved as a party in EVERY state, even and especially the ones we write off.
If we campaigned in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin the way we did in Alabama, Hillary would probably be president! Heaven help us, we need to play like this is 2018 and 2020!
The best part of Jones victory speech
Was where he quote Martin Luther King:
"Dr. King liked to quote, 'The moral arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice,'" he said. "Tonight, ladies and gentlemen… in this time, in this place, you helped bend that moral arc a little closer to that justice and you did it, not only was it bent more, not only was its aim true, but you sent it right through the heart of the great state of Alabama ."
possible silver lining of 2016?
Now, let me say this, I am NOT going to so Susan Sarandon and say that trump will lead to some "glorious revolution." NO political move is worth killing people, especially the innocents who are far away from the consequences. However, if there is one good I see, and let's put good with heavy quotes, is that Trump is not only vulgar, but outright incompetent, which might make whatever he does easier to undo.
question, since al fell on his sword, who would replace him?
I confess I am not as up on Minnesota politics, other than knowing the gov is a democrat. Minnesotans, can you help us out?
what we must NOT do about Franken
Look, I have been here, and already I have seen venom among Democrats, against Democrats. It does not mater if you like Franken or Gillibrand, or (insert D here), the fact is, the way this will play to the GOP (IF WE LET IT) is that we will rip at each other's faces, especially over an issue of social justice, which is a polite way of seeing the Male Chauvinists will say "see what those witches made us do!" This is the perfect demoralizer for 2018, and gives cover for the evil voodoo that the GOP will do to steal elections, and their Russian comrades too.
My point is not about sex harassment, my point is that the GOP knows we love civil wars. If we allow our anger to cripple people who just happen to be some of the best chances to get Trump out of office, we will have done their work for them again.
It is no accident that many of the women who are already being blasted at DU were threats to Trump, and for that matter, so is Al Franken.
Bottom line, we cannot let democrat fight democrat, especially not now when there is a real war going on. If it does, then people a lot nastier then Sanders (hey Bernie, funny how YOU chimed in quick) will try to ensure we are always divided, and the future generations will be able to curse us as this country become one big waste dump, with the Rich Nobles hunting us for sport.
It says a lot
That our current president is laughing with and getting support from someone who most presidents would not even touch, Even those who praise any opponent of America on reflex, the ones that make Michael Moore look like Sean Hannity, would be ashamed to be in the same company as Duerte.
an honest question:did (supposedly) most white women vote for trump?
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/11/10/more-white-women-voted-for-donald-trump-than-for-hillary-clinton/The article quoted above gives one figure, and I have heard figures as low as 52%, to as high as 55% Now, if this is true (and I confess I have my doubts) two questions occur: what happened? and Two what can be done to prevent that from happening again?
To all the people trying to refight 2016
You are doing the work of dividing us that Mr. Trump is too stupid to do by himself! The only years we need to think of are 2018, and then 2020.
If Bernie and Hillary were here among us, they would be telling all of you the same message, albeit with more eloquence than I. BOTH OF THEM WOULD! Anyone who claims to love Bernie or Hillary is doing both of them a bad disservice by contuing the fight, because they are unwittingly in the service of Putin and his slave Trump.
On the indictments (before any champagne is poured)
as someone who can draw tangible line between the hopes of 2016 and the outright graveyard sickness of 2017, I can understand why many would want to pop champagne. Right now, I feel like it is Christmas eve, and I can already look forward to ripping and wrapping paper on gifts that I know all of us good Democrats deserve. However, keep in mind the only thing that has been any damage to Trump has been constant, consistent vigilance. We will need to get tenacious and ruthless. the only thing that the trumpet people are frustrated at is the fact that, despite all of his attempts to spend people around,, the inconvenient facts just do not stay underwater. What we do not want is for us to all the sudden start reaching for tears and boredom like a bottle of Jack Daniels when the enemy managed to produce another rabbit from that worn-out hat.
We know the Trump is indeed shameless and ruthless enough to go ahead and scatter pardons like a farmer sows seed. we know the Republicans are going to let him do this, because they think that sooner or later, they can take over machinery once taxes have been cut for the rich and any social services or education are made for the sole purpose of stopping people into white conservative churches. even a full-blown nuclear war with North Korea, which will spin into a nuclear war of China will not frighten a small fraction of the mouth breathers, the churches will tell them is exactly what Jesus wants, a way to kill all them arrogant city liberals! However, as vocal and persistent as that minority is, we do have the numbers to take this country back from them. hopefully the siren songs of Jill Stein will not be able to convince people that this is an election just like any other, sorry to say that Wolf is here now,, and he is feasting on children. We need to be consistent, clear, and yes ruthless. We need to push this as far as it goes, and make sure that all the broken glass is nice and sharp so that anyone who votes Republican will wind up stepping on that class, November 2018 and November 2020. I'm not calling for terrorism, but she intends to work, and so does selfishness. We need to make the GOP not merely ashamed of putting Trump in, make it clear that Trump is going for their wallets, yes their wallets.
No we don't need to appeal to compassion that they do not have! And yes please let's stop trying all this "ode to white working-class" nonsense that we are expected to go ahead and eat with a side of grits is to show that we can sympathize. No, because frankly, even those that were not bigots, even those who acted much more out of fear of an anger were willing to go ahead and let Trump ride in, and yes I will violate Godwin's law and say that yes in the last century we had and another clear example of how someone used populism, and a genuine economic pain that many Germans did feel the gain power.
We cannot and will not give up. We have to go ahead fighting like hell around one and keep throwing punches in round 12, even if, especially if it looks like we're going to win, because we will not win until our enemy is lying on the ground and he is not getting up! Yes, the copper phrase off of our own Nance Greg's, they are the enemy right now,, more so than any foreign power including Isis and including Russia because these heart worms have narrowed deep into our national tissue, and are laying carcinogenic eggs that they know the Supreme Court is willing to nurture for the next 20 years! However, we will not show despair when their inevitable noise machine,, and all yes the fifth column that is in our party, both the extreme left,, and those who panic whenever a millimeter to the left the spirit disturbs the illusion of the center, will try their best to encourage despair, because that despair gets them better wages, in cash and in ego than a Hillary Clinton presidency ever would have!
We need to make it very clear to the GOP that we are talking and not listening, and affirm those within who are more concerned about fighting their little wars of ego than winning in 2018, then 2020, and then as many consistent victories as we can win, then we need to go ahead and tell them where to step off! We have become way too comfortable coming in second; there will be no consolation prizes in 2018 or 2020!
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