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We Need New Democratic Leadership in the House. Pelosi Should Go.

Her vote against the Iraq War in 2002 was courageous and admirable. But, as the new Speaker when she said about Bush, ďI have said it before and I will say it again: Impeachment is off the table,Ē it was terrible news for those who wanted justice for the administrationís numerous crimes. (And also wanted the accountability that would have reined in future administrations.) Now Nancy Pelosi has voted to let the NSA continue the massive spying, completely unrestrained. That is antithesis of what a free country does. And it is inexcusable.

What that vote guarantees: Total, massive surveillance of all citizens. More mixing of Corporations and State. A preemptive squashing of any Occupy-type movements in the future. The likelihood of serious labor movements being watched and suppressed. And on and on.

There has been a definite downward trend in her voting pattern over the last decade. We need Democrats that stand up for democratic principles. With Harry Reid folding on every issue that comes up in the Senate, we need other leaders that lead in the right direction.


And for where this is spying is headed. A judge says Big Energy should have your metadata, too:


Defend that, please.

Greedy Mother-Fuckers, Leading the Quasi-Fascists, Followed by Morons Who Believe Everything

they are told.

Sound harsh? Tough shit. Itís nothing compared to the country these people are creating for the rest of us. Iím talking about those who ship American factories overseas by the tens of thousands to exploit cheep labor in the third world and shrink the middle class in their own country. They should be in prison for the horrible conditions they force upon those working in places like Columbia and Bangladesh, all while rationalizing their criminal greed. They should be tried and imprisoned for what theyíve done to our working and middle classes. And they should have to forfeit their profits to feed and house those they have stolen from.

They are willing to start wars based on lies for bigger profits.They buy our politicians like others buy appliances. The massive spying is not about terrorists, itís about money. With Iraq and Afghanistan wars ending the military-industrial complex needs to be fed. Weíre talking hundreds of billions a year, spread out between the federal, states and local governments. Drones to spy on us, from the type that can stay in the air for months spying on entire cities, to the insect size drones that that can entire our houses undetected. From the license plate readers on cop cars that track driversí movements and store the data forever; to the massive collection of all our electronic communications. Big Brother really is here and itís going to get progressively worse every year until we rein this in. The technology will come and canít be stopped, the only thing that can stop this is for the citizens to say, Ďenough!í and demand the laws change.

Theyíve bought our democracy/republic and no one should be okay with that. We need a government that actually works for us and not just those with deep pockets. Itís time for public funding of campaigns, before itís too late.

ďThe modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Ē

John Kenneth Galbraith

Of Labels, Libtards, Libertarians and Paulbots.

Always battled with myself on whether I was more angry about the Iraq War, or the insulting lies that got us there. Same with destroying the environment. Is it worse to wipe out other species and set our own species on a course for extinction, or is the greater crime the fact that so many are too dumb or too weak to see/admit whatís happening?

Okay, itís not really a battle - but the dumb and childish still irritate the hell out of me. Adults, at least a many of them, handle any reality they donít care for, in a far worse manner than any eight year old that finds out there is no Santa Claus. And itís not just the religious fanatics either; although they are the worst. Those who look down people who believe in the science of global warming, come to mind. Those who believe strongly their race or culture is superior to all others. Authoritarians and a good portion of those who fall for propaganda are some of the most resistant to facts and have the most infantile reactions when facing unpleasant truths.

Whatís ironic, and also obvious, is that those who hold strong opinions that are contrary to the facts, are also unlikely to be able to defend those opinions in an honest debate. They donít know enough. So they label people, name call and insult. ďItís like 10 degrees outside, libtard! So much for global warming!Ē

During the nationís year long debate about health care in 2009, those who wanted to keep the status quo labeled those who were for a public option as communists, socialists and Nazis. Not knowing the definition to any of those terms, proven by the fact they were used interchangeably. They got angry, labeled people and insulted. This pattern returns again and again throughout history. Whenever their beliefs, religion, party, king, or morals are challenged, those resistant to reality have reacted badly.

The same thing is now happening with some on the left, and itís hard to deny. If someone believes that a big-brother type government is really the best thing for the country and believes we should make sure the monitoring of everything we do continues foreverÖ then convince us. Tell us all, calmly, that just being alive makes us a suspect. Prove to us that privacy has no place in a free country. Persuade us that the threat of terrorism - even though statistically dying from lightning is more likely Ė is a good enough reason to rid ourselves of the most basic rights we have.

Truth is, they canít. If the people that are trashing Snowden and Greenwald had any case at all, they would bring it to the forefront. They have nothing, and I suspect on some level they realize that fact. Thatís why the labels of libertarian and Paulbot are thrown around with no honest debate even attempted.

Itís either dishonesty, slow wits, or a childish aversion to facts.

If Only Our Glorious Leaders Put as Much Effort into Making Peopleís Lives Better

as they did into tracking us and covering their own assesÖ.

If the number of people, the amount of money, and the all the work that was put into the NSA spying programs had instead been funneled into single-payer healthcare, or alternative energy programs, our country would be in far, far better shape than it is now.

If all the effort that has been used to catch, demonize and punish whistleblowers - from Manning and Kiriakou to Assange and Snowden Ė had been put toward a campaign to bring back good paying jobs and quality educationÖ.

Really, what kind of country do we want to be?

Trust US! When the Last Terrorist is Dead, You can have Your Freedom Back!

The only reason we, (we who are in power, and a few defense/security companies) are watching everything you do, everywhere you go, everything you read, say, buy, type, watch and all the people you contact, is to catch the terrorists. Once that job is done, you can trust that we will give you back your freedom, your Constitution and your privacy... Should be any day now.

Some people point out that one is more likely to be struck by lightning than to be killed by a terrorist within the last ten years. (True.) And that our country has faced far more dangerous threats in the past without tapping everybodyís phones and opening everyoneís mail.

Well, maybe they didnít think of doing those things.

The point is to talk about something else, anything else, so we can go back to catching those last few terrorists. Thanks for your patriotic support!

(And Thom Rumpus from Akron, youíre watching too much porn!)
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