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Ted Cruz: "You Know It Used To Be: 'It Is Accepted Scientific Wisdom The Earth Is Flat.' "

Ted Cruz To 'Global Warming Alarmists': Galileo Was 'Branded A Denier' Too

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"Today the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-earthers," Cruz continued. "You know it used to be: 'It is accepted scientific wisdom the Earth is flat.' And this heretic named Galileo was branded a denier."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-galileo-denier-climate-change




Ted Cruz apparently cannot distinguish the incorrect idea that the Earth is flat from the incorrect idea that the Sun along with every other heavenly body (excepting naturally that the Moon does orbit the Earth) orbits the Earth.


The Greek philosopher Eratosthenes demonstrated scientifically that the Earth is curved by measuring said curvature approximately during the 3rd century B.C.E.:




The Catholic Church's problem with Galileo had to do with Galileo's support of the idea of heliocentrism instead of the Church-supported idea of geocentrism:




So, to place Ted Cruz's above remarks in proper context, his remarks should be annotated:


Ted Cruz To 'Global Warming Alarmists': Galileo Was 'Branded A Denier' Too

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"Today the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-earthers," Cruz continued. "You know it used to be: 'It is accepted scientific wisdom (This is not true and never was true. Since simple experiments do not show that the Earth is even locally flat (i.e., Himalayas, Grand Canyon), Cruz's accepted 'wisdom' cannot be scientific in origin.) the Earth is flat (accepted 'wisdom' until about the 3rd century BCE when the Earth's curvature was scientifically demonstrated by Eratosthenes).' And this heretic (due to his support of heliocentrism) named Galileo was branded a denier (of geocentrism)."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-galileo-denier-climate-change



Fox News is not a news channel - it is a propaganda channel that should be regulated.

Watching Fox News is similar to being in a theater with someone constantly screaming - "The theater is on fire!" - while lighting matches. No matter how calm one is when one takes one's seat, eventually the warning will be heard, the smoke will be smelt, the fear will be felt and the exit will be run for. (How many stochastic terrorists have been motivated by Fox? The number seems likely not to be zero.)

Here are just a pair of examples of the propaganda spread by Fox News:

REPORT: Fox Promotes Birther Myth In At Least 52 Segments
April 27, 2011 8:53 AM EDT ››› JUSTIN BERRIER, MELODY JOHNSON, JULIE MILLICAN, CHELSEA RUDMAN, & ERIC SCHROECK

Following potential Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's embrace of theories regarding President Obama's birthplace, Fox News has significantly ramped up its coverage of birther conspiracies. A Media Matters review of Fox News' opinion programs found that in recent weeks, the network devoted nearly two hours and 20 minutes to the issue, and in the vast majority of the cases, the hosts either espoused birther conspiracies or did not challenge or correct false claims about Obama's birth that aired on their shows. By contrast, when possible GOP presidential candidate and Fox News host Mike Huckabee similarly questioned -- but subsequently walked back -- Obama's origins, Fox devoted just over five minutes of coverage to Huckabee's false claim that Obama was raised in Kenya.


In Recent Weeks, Fox Has Dramatically Increased Its Coverage Of The Birther Conspiracy

As indicated below, in recent weeks, Fox News has significantly increased its coverage of those who falsely claim that President Obama may have been born outside of the United States. In fact, Obama was born in Hawaii -- a fact that has been repeatedly confirmed by official records and Hawaii Department of Health officials. As Media Matters has noted, several Fox News figures have embraced the birther conspiracy theory, while others have repeatedly failed to debunk false claims about Obama's birth. So widespread was Fox's coverage of Trump's embrace of birtherism that some Fox News hosts reported on and joked about the birther conspiracy theory in segments not relating to Trump.

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http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/04/27/report-fox-promotes-birther-myth-in-at-least-52/179060


A History Of Death Panels: A Timeline
March 22, 2011 10:17 AM EDT ››› KAREN FAMIGHETTI

In honor of the one year anniversary of the passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Media Matters presents a timeline of one of the most disgraceful and pernicious myths about the law--death panels.


Betsy McCaughey Launches Health Care Debate With A Lie

McCaughey Helps Spread Falsehood Through Conservative Media

PolitiFact Debunks McCaughey's Claim

Fox News, Right-Wing Figures Continue To Push False Claim

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http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/03/22/a-history-of-death-panels-a-timeline/177776


A person in a theater would be stopped if there were no fire, so should Fox News be regulated as there seems to have yet to have been an actual fire.

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On Edit: It is interesting to observe the responses to this OP. Regulation can have a broad meaning. No one has addressed the idea of regulating the yelling of "Fire!" in a theater where there is no fire. How is that regulation justified? I see complete silence on that topic and a plethora of attacks.

Suppose that Fox News decided to broadcast in the fashion of Radio-Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLM). Would that be acceptable? Does the following statement hold any merit?

The use of propaganda in the Rwandan genocide : a study of Radio-Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLM)
Gulseth, Hege Lřvdal

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Genocide does not start with the murder of masses of people, it starts in peoples’ mind. Before the weapons comes the image, before you can eliminate your enemy, you must define it. Both prior to and during the Rwandan genocide, the radio station Radio-Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLM) was used as an instrument to create a Tutsi enemy image. This thesis demonstrates that this enemy image was created through the use of different propaganda techniques that resemble the seven characteristics that Spillman and Spillman (1991) connect to the syndrome of the enemy image.

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https://www.duo.uio.no/handle/10852/13569


Fox News has done an exceptional job of painting liberals, progressives, President Obama et al as the enemy.

Is there a creative solution that can maintain free speech, but restrict not necessarily the use but the effectiveness of pure propaganda?

Fox News is a corporation. Are corporations people? Do corporations deserve free speech in the same way that citizens do? Is it that subconsciously we essentially all accept the idea that corporations are people even though when asked directly we would deny that corporations are people? These are merely questions for discussion. It would be interesting to read your responses.
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