Nuclear Unicorn
Nuclear Unicorn's JournalHow would gun control non-compliance be enforced?
Suppose the Controllers got their fantasy of an Australian style requirement to surrender firearms in exchange for a stipend but the program produced substantially low turn-ins, i.e. registration laws currently show less than 5% compliance.
How should the authorities deal with non-compliance?
A) Overlook it. We don't need another War on X.
B) Wait until the owners do something otherwise lawful like, self defense, then prosecute them.
C) Compile records from background checks, FOIDs and registries to actively find the offenders
D) Other
Greeks face six months of cash controls
CAPITAL controls will stay in place at Greek banks for at least six months, senior officials in Athens warned yesterday, as the government fights to keep lenders afloat.
Leaders of the four main banks and finance ministry officials will meet tomorrow to discuss how to save the banking system from collapse after a run on deposits.
Options under consideration include a consolidation of four main banks down to two, creation of a “bad bank” to house toxic loans, and a possible forced “bail-in” of depositors. About €15bn (£11bn) is needed to recapitalise banks, senior sources said.
Tomorrow’s meeting is expected to approve new capital controls, which not only put a cap on withdrawals — Greeks have been unable to withdraw more than €60 a day for the past fortnight — but also strict limits on international transfers by the public and businesses.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Economy/article1580150.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_12
I've read elsewhere that the "bail-in" could take 30% of all depositor accounts over $8,000EU. Considering tax dodging is the Greek national sport I'm not too torn up about that but the fact remains plenty of Greeks who do responsibly pay their taxes are going to get caught up in that without recourse. Why bother doing the right thing if you get hit twice while the cheaters only get hit once?
And 6 months or more of currency controls? That alone can devastate an economy -- assuming you actually have an economy. Methinks a robust underground is in the making but while that is good for individual Greeks it will only exacerbate the lack of revenue being collected by the state which in turn throws off the recapitalization projections being used to underwrite the bail-outs.
The smart money would be to accept the black market then work to incentivize turning it white. People are smart and resourceful and will work in their own best interest without a bunch of cronies/eggheads in distant capitals telling them what to do. It's weird, it's almost as if humans were meant to be free or something. So, instead of trying to overly control this phenomenon the twits in Brussels, Berlin and Athens should allow this wholly natural behavior to work for the betterment of all. The people will be the ultimate beneficiaries and that's supposedly why we have government in the first place.
x-post from Creative Speculation: Has Charlie Manson's Helter Skelter Finally Arrived?
Charlie Manson talked to his many followers about the racial wars that would come, naming them Helter Skelter. It was at a New Year's Eve gathering of the Family in 1968 that he coined the term. He said blacks without an outlet for their frustrations would lash out in violent crimes against whites resulting in a murderous rampage against blacks by frightened whites, as recorded in Wikipedia. Although Charlie's goal was a Shangri-la for his family and an outlet for his music, what he described as the events leading up to it, Helter Skelter, were very similar to what is going on today between blacks and law enforcement.
Two anonymous Baltimore police officers said, simply, they are "feeling scared." Baltimore PD leaders have put them in a mode of just reacting instead of being proactive, which has allowed the city's streets to run wild, resulting in 42 killings just in May. But in Helter Skelter Charles Manson was considered by his followers as their savior, Jesus Christ, a leader who interpreted for them Chap. 9 from Revelations, which describes, as one biblical professor put it, when "All Hell Breaks Loose." If there is a leader in today's violence it has to be the gun lobby led by the National Rifle Assn. because of their persistence to put more guns on the street, thus, more murders. Racial tension has always been there but the gun rights bunch gave blacks the means to follow through on Helter Skelter.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113510246
Emphasis mine.
You guys may remember the OP. He posted here for a few days before retreating to less challenging environs. I must say, that's an interesting theory he has going. This is not isolated either.
Just yesterday I replied to a poster in GD that suggested whoever was ran Dylan Roof's background check deliberately overlooked disqualifying history so as to facilitate the rampage shooting.
This just underscores my curiosity from observing that many Controllers subscribe to such lurid fantasies of widespread violence -- while insisting on being defenseless. Meanwhile, I feel fairly confident that the pro-RKBA posters here must be scratching their heads at this silly fear-mongering.
So Dylan Roof bought his gun illegally
He slipped through the cracks because law enforcement -- you know, the ones who would enforce gun laws -- couldn't get the information that would have disqualified him into the NICS in a timely manner.
A vendor can put the exact same amount of information into the system in order to perform a BGC to facilitate a sale at a gun show or a retail establishment but the authorities can't light the fire in time to keep a gun out of a killer's hands.
Remind me again how more laws will make this better.
Do fewer guns lead to fewer suicides?
Short answer -- no
First, we suicides by guns are decreasing --
Okay, but what do gun ownership rate look like?
Thee ATF states the number of guns has gone up (quite significantly, it seems) even though the number of gun owning households has decreased --
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The first thing this tells us (assuming people are being honest with pollsters at a time when gun owners are being vilified in the media and culture) is: The number of gun ownership is being concentrated among fewer households.
That would seem to imply that increasing the more guns a household owns lowers the suicide rate.
But what about the overall non-gun suicide rate?
For the most part suicide rates are declining regardless of the method. There are exceptions, such as, hangings among women seem to be on the uptick as a method even though suicide rates overall are in decline.
In other words, suicide rates are not tied to gun ownership.
Predictions for Greece?
What will things be like a week from now, a month from now, a year from now?
If gun control really is about sympathy for the victims
why is there never any sympathy for those who defensively use their guns to NOT become victims? Do they only have moral value if they're raped, murdered, robbed and/or beaten?
Wife: Former CNN reporter shoots, kills armed robber at Westside motel
A former CNN investigative reporter shot and killed an armed robber in a motel on Albuquerque's Westside late Tuesday, according to his wife.
Police responded to the Motel 6 at Iliff Road NW off Coors around 11:30 p.m. APD said they found a man dead in the parking lot with at least one gunshot wound.
Lynne Russell, also a former CNN anchor, told KOB she and her husband, Chuck de Caro, decided to stop at the motel for the night because they were tired after a long day of traveling and had their dog with them. When she went out to the car to get something and returned to the room, she said an armed man was at the door with a handgun.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3840237.shtml?cat=500#.VZVK8P77600
Black Suspect Arrested After Racist Message Discovered Outside Predominately Black Church
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS4)– A Colorado Springs man was arrested after police believe he left racist messages outside a church.
Vincent Broughton, 44, who is black, is facing charges for committed a bias-motivated crime and disorderly conduct.
The signs were posted outside the New Covenant church that is predominately attended by African Americans. One sign references the KKK. Another reads, “Black men beware, you are the target.”
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Police said Broughton admitted to posting the flyers but did not explain why he targeted the church.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/suspect-arrested-after-racist-message-discovered-outside-church/
I absolutely believe the fires elsewhere have been set by bigots; this is just mystifying. Please tell me this is just horribly misguided performance "art."
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