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Angry Dragon

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Hometown: Minnesota
Home country: USA
Current location: Lost in the world
Member since: Wed Sep 30, 2009, 06:25 AM
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I like this letter sent to Koch

An Open Apology to Amy Koch on Behalf of All Gay and Lesbian Minnesotans

Dear Ms. Koch,

On behalf of all gays and lesbians living in Minnesota, I would like to wholeheartedly apologize for our community's successful efforts to threaten your traditional marriage. We are ashamed of ourselves for causing you to have what the media refers to as an "illicit affair" with your staffer, and we also extend our deepest apologies to him and to his wife. These recent events have made it quite clear that our gay and lesbian tactics have gone too far, affecting even the most respectful of our society.

We apologize that our selfish requests to marry those we love has cheapened and degraded traditional marriage so much that we caused you to stray from your own holy union for something more cheap and tawdry. And we are doubly remorseful in knowing that many will see this as a form of sexual harassment of a subordinate.

It is now clear to us that if we were not so self-focused and myopic, we would have been able to see that the time you wasted diligently writing legislation that would forever seal the definition of marriage as being between one man and one woman, could have been more usefully spent reshaping the legal definition of "adultery."

Forgive us. As you know, we are not church-going people, so we are unable to fully appreciate that "gay marriage" is incompatible with Christian values, despite the fact that those values carry a biblical tradition of adultery such as yours. We applaud you for keeping that tradition going.

And finally, shame on us for thinking that marriage is a private affair, and that our marriage would have little impact on anyone's family. We now see that marriage is more than that. It is an agreement with society. We should listen to the Minnesota Family Council when it tells us that marriage is about being public, which explains why marriages are public ceremonies. Never did we realize that it is exactly because of this societal agreement that the entire world is looking at you in shame and disappointment instead of minding its own business.

From the bottom of our hearts, we ask that you please accept our apology.

Thank you.
John Medeiros
Minneapolis MN

Michele Bachmann: Bob Vander Plaats, Christian Conservative Leader, Asked Me To Drop Out

I do not know if this has been posted before

First Posted: 12/21/11 10:35 AM ET Updated: 12/21/11 10:39 AM ET

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Wednesday confirmed that Bob Vander Plaats, CEO of Christian conservative group The Family Leader, had called her earlier to ask her to end her presidential campaign.

On Tuesday, Vander Plaats announced a personal endorsement for former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. Politico later reported that Vander Plaats had contacted Bachmann over the weekend to encourage her to drop out of the race and join him in backing Santorum.

"I did receive a phone call," Bachmann said Wednesday on Fox News. "I've been polling above the Ricks, and so there would be absolutely no reason for me to drop out. Plus, I'm the only one that actually won anything in this state. Plus, I have so much support here, I have the former president of the Family Leader who also has come out and endorsed me, I have the head of Concerned Women of America in Iowa who's come out to support me, and I have over a hundred Evangelical pastors that have come out in public support."

Bachmann continued, sounding confident that she could still carry out a strong performance in Iowa and showing few signs that she would adhere to Vander Plaats' request. The congresswoman has, after all, effectively vowed to bet it all on Iowa with hopes that she can pull out a win in the state's Jan. 3 caucuses.


A couple of comments I found Interesting:

22 minutes ago(12:18 AM)
A view from across the pond : I had really thought that Michele Bachmann had been taking her anti-psych­otic medicine, and that it had started to work, but I could not have been more wrong.

Bachmann receives her instructio­ns from higher powers, and will never take any notice of earthly ones.
I am also concerned that Sara Palin may well enter this circus, I think it is such a shame that the American people must be made to suffer in this way. In England these two would never have got on the ballot paper, they woulod have been removed by men in white coats and a padded van.

28 minutes ago(12:12 AM)
So why does this church group still have a tax exempt status? By taking an active role in the election process they are violating the seperation of church and state and as a result should lose thier religious tax exemption.

Is this where one would report a bug??

Served on a jury and got this e-mail in return
bolding is mine

The time stamp is way off..............

Mail Message
At Wed Dec 21, 2011, 04:36 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

the arrest is to intimidate any witnesses who saw what happened


This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)


advocating violence against cops


You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 21, 2011, 04:54 PM, and the Jury voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Not good advocating violence
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Agree with the alerter. This post is inappropriate.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Advocating violance is one of the few reasons I will vote to hide a thread. I understand the anger at this cops actions but violance is inappropriate and counterproductive.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I will not vote to censor this particular DU member.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Promoting murder is inappropriate and casts a dark shadow on Democraticunderground.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Added: Went back and checked the post was hidden at 10:54 am

Anti-gay leaders endorse Santorum: ‘He’s one of us’


By David Edwards
Tuesday, December 20, 2011


The Family Leader CEO Bob Vander Plaats said that while his organization would not endorse a candidate at this time, he could personally Santorum because the former Pennsylvania senator was the “champion for the family” who is the best position to beat President Barack Obama.

Earlier this year, Santorum, Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann all signed The Family Leader’s pledge, agreeing to opposes same sex marriage, oppose Sharia law and ban “all forms of pornography.”


Chuck Hurley, head of The Family Leader’s Iowa Family Policy Center, who also endorsed Santorum Tuesday, said that his group had gotten death threats from supporters of other GOP candidates.

“I do regret that one erstwhile friend and culture warrior has threatened to — quote — ‘burn Bob’s body, drag it through the street and hang it from a bridge’ — unquote — if Bob doesn’t endorse who that person wants him to endorse,” Hurley explained, refusing to name the supporter or their preferred candidate. I find this interesting..AD

more at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/20/anti-gay-leaders-endorse-santorum-hes-one-of-us/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

More pledges ..... good to have all the bigots on the same page ......... and doesn't perry own a part of a porno company??

Help with a concept

Our planet exists in a galaxy with a billion other stars and planets in a universe with billions of other galaxies.
The universe expanded for billions of years. According to the big bang theory. It is said today that the expansion is decreasing.

I have always wondered what the universe is expanding in. Is is expanding within a space of some kind, a vacuum of some kind. What would we find if we escaped the universe?? Would we find nothing or something??

Medical Breakthrough Over the Weekend

The federal government of the United States has just confirmed that a medical breakthrough
on the benefits of marijuana was achieved over the weekend.
They stated that they were sorry they closed up all the Medical Marijuana Clinics during the last months.
They stated to make up for this mistake they have decided to give a company in New York exclusive rights to any money to be made for this surprising breakthrough.

Now who could have seen this coming?
I have come to help you. I am from Big Pharma.............

Edit added link for DU post that sparked my post:


I do live under a bridge and look like a troll

I think we could agree on a great many things

In the first part of your reply I almost replied to you in the same manner.

I would like to see affordable and good health care for all
A education system that educates our young and not run it like a business
A tax code that taxes people upon their ability to pay
A country that does not go around looking for wars
A country that treats everyone as equals
A true separation of church and state
Stop the hate coming out of DC
Livable wages
Corporations are not people
Regulations with teeth that hold banks, Wall Street, corporation accountable for their misdeeds
A fair and just justice system where everyone lives under the same laws
Politicians held accountable for their misdeeds (fines and prison)

all I can think of right now....feel free to add

Poll: Is it a good idea to get rid of the Electoral College

Yes, No or something else??

When do the maps for redistricting come out??

Silicon Valley execs blast SOPA in open letter


Declan McCullagh
by Declan McCullagh December 14, 2011 7:53 AM PST Follow @declanm

Many of Silicon Valley's most successful entrepreneurs and executives are warning of the dangers of the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act in a new open letter to Washington, D.C.

It's signed by Google co-founder Sergey Brin, Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey, PayPal co-founder Elon Musk, Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang, among others. It will appear as a paid advertisement in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other newspapers.

The letter's timing is no coincidence. Rep. Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican who drafted SOPA, has scheduled a committee vote tomorrow on a slightly revised version and still highly controversial version--call it SOPA v2.0.

SOPA will "give the U.S. government the power to censor the Web using techniques similar to those used by China, Malaysia and Iran," the letter says. Chris Dodd, the chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America, recently invoked China as a model, saying that "when the Chinese told Google that they had to block sites" the company complied, according to a report at Variety.com. Dodd backed away from that comparison in a speech (PDF) yesterday, saying it's unfair to compare shutting down "foreign rogue sites and the policies of repressive governments."

more here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57342914-83/silicon-valley-execs-blast-sopa-in-open-letter/?tag=nl.e757
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