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Yes your math is flawless. We should be able to work much much less and still live quite comfortably.

We would live better actually.

The President didn't say either way.

There are several different amendments that have been proposed by members of Congress and outside groups.

I don't see why this article is jumping to the conclusion that Obama endorsed the Sanders proposal. I blame Jason Easley at politicususa.com for writing a misleading headline. This is really poor quality journalism.

The same guy went back to the well today with another similar article. Dumb.

There are several different Constitutional amendments offered for this issue.

So can I just say Obama endorsed the Jim McGovern proposed amendment, or the Jeff Merkley proposed amendment?

I'm gonna write a headline that says "Obama Endorses Jeff Merkley’s Constitutional Amendment to Overturn Citizens United".

It would be equally true, and equally false.

Those proposed amendments are quite different from each other so it does make a difference which one we go with.

It's not a dig a the President. What he said on reddit was great.

Maybe whoever wrote the headline on politicususa doesn't understand that there are several different proposed amendments, not just Sanders.

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At least not based on that quote.

President Obama endorsed "the need to seriously consider mobilizing a constitutional amendment process", whatever that means.

Exactly what it says. He thinks we should seriously consider mobilizing a process.

He did not endorse the Sanders proposal particularly, or any of the many other amendment versions that have been proposed.

How am I the first person in the thread to point this out? Do people just read the title? I'm doubting my own reading comprehension skills at this point since all the other people read it different.

"How can I say something that seems a little racist but if anybody points it out I have a good excuse so the person accusing me seems like a crazy person looking for any opportunity to accuse an innocent white man of racism? Oh I know...I'll make my entrance to a Black Eyed Peas song and then make a special point about how I don't like them."

This is what a lot of racism looks like. Snide little comments that you can't prove.

Kasish is a master race baiter. Right after coming into office he just about started a race war in the state.


Probably a dog whistle. As is the case with these things, we can never really prove it, that's why it is called a dog whistle.

After the the election there is probably going to be another budget fight. Social Security benefits will be on the table for compromises. Most of us DU folks probably would address any Social Security issues by raising or lifting the payroll tax cap.

But the Republicans are also going to propose benefit cuts. These could include raising the retirement age or changing the way the cost of living adjustments are calculated, by adopting something called a "chained CPI".

It's important to elect as many Democrats as possible. It's also important to keep an eye on the Democrats to make sure they do not cave in and compromise with the Republicans on any Social Security benefit cuts.

It would be nice to get all our Democratic candidates on the record now, before the election, stating they will not vote for these measures including raising the retirement age or adopting the chained CPI. This will help Democrats win elections by drawing a sharp contrast with the Republicans on this issue. Consider asking your candidates about these specific issues. It couldn't hurt to get a response in writing or on video.

Who remembers President Clinton's budget fights with Gingrich and company that actually led to a government shutdown? That was over cuts to Medicare, among other programs, that President Clinton refused to accept. Looking back it's one of the best things that he did. He took a stand for something. We ought to be ready to take a stand like that again. We shouldn't compromise away any benefits on Social Security or Medicare. These programs should not be on the table for negotiating with Republicans, some of whom openly admit they want to privatize or end the programs.

Some Democrats in Congress or in the Administration may like the idea of compromising on this and will start laying the groundwork for it now. So be skeptical when people start talking about how bad the gridlock is and the need bipartisan compromise with Republicans. Mr. Boehner has been very clear that he never compromises. All the compromising is one way.

Here's a recent news article about items that will be on the table for compromises after the election.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505244_162-57496003/social-security-fixable-changes-politically-tough/

Why do they side with the coal industry, their oppressors? The government has abandoned them and the coal industry is what puts food on the table. Racism and homophobia does play into it. But if the Democrats had a strong economic populist message, we could cut straight through that racism.

If we could say all the money made off WV coal will go to benefit the communities of WV, instead of mine owners in New York and London. If we could say we will make full employment in WV by hiring people to build and install solar panels and wind mills. These would be popular.

Could you imagine a Democrat candidate saying these things? It's almost inconceivable. And yet those solutions are obvious even to "hillbillies".

This whole region of our country and quality of life for generations of families have been sacrificed for industry profits. And the people who live there know it. Liberal America turned it's back on Appalachia so if WV moved into the Republican column it's not surprising. At least a job in the mine puts food on the table.

We can win this state back by supporting strong economic populist policies. If we said from now on the mineral wealth of West Virginia will belong to the people of West Virginia. If we directly hired people to build the energy systems of the future. So let's do that.

Found via LBN.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014198742



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/18/south-african-miners-julius-malema

Here's what I got... neat thread.