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Hand dyer mainly to the quilters market, doll maker, oil painter and teacher, anti-fas, cat owner, anti nuke, ex navy, reasonably good cook, father of three happy successful kids and three happy grand kids. Life is good.

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Went look at what they had to say about last night.

'Buildings Matter, Too': Top editor resigns over headline,

‘Buildings Matter, Too’: Top editor resigns over headline, as newspaper disavows its ‘riff’ on Black Lives Matter

Published: June 7, 2020 at 7:59 p.m. ET

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/black-lives-matter-buildings-matter-too-editor-loses-job-over-that-headline-2020-06-07

By Shawn Langlois

‘Buildings matter, too’

Those three words cost Stan Wischnowski, the Philadelphia Inquirer’s top editor, his job. The newsroom vet resigned after backlash from staff over that headline on a story that said “there could be a gaping hole in the heart of Philadelphia” amid protests over the killing of George Floyd.

Dozens of journalists signed an open letter to their editors explaining their decision to call out “sick and tired,” CNN reported. “They said they have spent ‘months and years’ trying to gain the public’s trust only to have it “eroded in an instant by careless, unempathetic decisions.”

The paper issued an apology the next day.

“The headline accompanied a story on the future of Philadelphia’s buildings and civic infrastructure in the aftermath of this week’s protests,” the Inquirer explained. “The headline offensively riffed on the Black Lives Matter movement and suggested an equivalence between the loss of buildings and the lives of black Americans. That is unacceptable.”

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Posted by marble falls | Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:27 PM (0 replies)

Attorney General Bill Barr Denies Nation's Police Are Systemically Racist

Attorney General Bill Barr Denies Nation’s Police Are Systemically Racist

The acting secretary of homeland security, Chad Wolf, and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson made similar comments Sunday.

By Nina Golgowski

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-barr-denies-systemic-racism-police_n_5edd0175c5b6d15fe95b8c73

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“I think there’s racism in the United States still, but I don’t think that the law enforcement system is systemically racist,” Barr told CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday. “I understand the distrust, however, of the African American community, given the history in this country.”

Barr went on to say that the country’s institutions, such as law enforcement, “were explicitly racist” for most of U.S. history, but added that sufficient reform has been made within the last 60 years.

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“I do not think that we have a systemic racism problem with law enforcement officers across this country,” Wolf said on ABC News’ This Week. “Do I acknowledge that there are some law enforcement officers that abuse their job? Yes. And again, we need to hold those accountable.”

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Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), a former police chief, responded to Wolf’s comments in an interview with ABC News on Sunday, insisting, “We have a lot of work to do, and systemic racism is always the ghost in the room.”

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Posted by marble falls | Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:58 PM (2 replies)

ALL lives matter ........

All lives matter, its just that some lives matter more than others.

Black Lives Matter because somehow they got missed in the every life matters attitude.

I'm white and my life always mattered so much I never had to question it. If we are in a racist society the all live are mattering equally cant is unfulfilled promise, a mere sentimentality. And make no mistake: we are in a racist society.

We need to be reminded that black lives matter BECAUSE all lives matter.

Quit putting property rights in front of human rights. Rioting and looting is the expression of people with no voice who are the constant never ending line of victims with no relief in sight.

I don't like the rioting and looting one bit, but notice the national leadership is more about putting a lid on it as opposed to having a dialogue and allowing the oppressed to have a voice: and using the same oppressive "police" methods that got us to fire and brick bats to begin with. These are continuing because no-one in national authority thinks black voices matter. Because they don't have a clue or inclination to open a freaking conversation or admit that while mistakes - deadly, killing mistakes - were made, the system can and will be changed.

This is not about law and order, its about a significant portion of our population being victimized with no recourse but eventually and finally the brick bat and the flame.

And the President dithers on while more are dying.

George Floyd's brother details the difference between his phone calls with Trump and Biden

George Floyd's brother details the difference between
his phone calls with Trump and Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/george-floyd-brother-talks-trump/index.html

George Floyd's brother, Philonise Floyd, on Sunday said he spoke with both President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden last week, saying his talk with Trump was "brief" while Biden was talking to him "constantly."

"The vice president, I loved his conversation. He talked to me for like 10 [or] 15 minutes. And I was trying to talk his ear off because he was talking to me constantly. Great conversation. But Trump, it lasted probably two minutes," he told CNN's Don Lemon when asked if he was able to share the pain of his brother's death with the President.

"It was very brief. The conversation was OK with him. I was just respecting him, you know listening to what he had to say. And I understood what he was saying, but it was just a brief conversation."

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"He didn't give me an opportunity to even speak," Floyd said. "It was hard. I was trying to talk to him, but he just kept, like, pushing me off, like 'I don't want to hear what you're talking about.'

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Posted by marble falls | Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:31 AM (2 replies)

Esper Reverses Course Again, Orders Troops Out Of D.C.

Source: huffpo

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/esper-orders-troops-home-again_n_5ed9597fc5b6dfb3fe4d7581


Esper Reverses Course Again, Orders Troops Out Of D.C.
This is the second time this week he’s made the call and broken from Trump on the need for a military response to the anti-racism protests.

By Lydia O’Connor

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“The Department made the decision to return members of some of the active-duty units in the capital region to their home base,” a senior Defense Department official told HuffPost. “Military leaders are continuously monitoring this dynamic situation. Return of the remainder of the active-duty service members will be conditions-based.”

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Esper’s decisions on the matter have been hard to keep up with. Earlier this week, he put Army units on the ground in the capital to assist local law enforcement with the protests. But he ordered them home on Wednesday morning after a night of peaceful protests. Then he reversed course by the afternoon.

That decision was announced after he met with President Donald Trump, who was reportedly irritated that he did not fully back him on his plans to deploy the military amid the protests, many of which were near the White House. After Trump threatened last week to deploy troops if state and local officials didn’t stop protests more aggressively, Esper appeared before cameras to say he opposed the idea.

“The option to use active-duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations,” Esper said Wednesday. “We are not in one of those situations now.”

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Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/esper-orders-troops-home-again_n_5ed9597fc5b6dfb3fe4d7581

Extremists Weigh in on Nationwide Protests

https://www.adl.org/blog/extremists-weigh-in-on-nationwide-protests

Extremists Weigh in on Nationwide Protests

June 1, 2020

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In some cases, peaceful protests have been met with excessive police force. There have also been widespread incidents of violence and property destruction. And while some of this chaos may be an expression of protesters’ despair and anger against America’s long history of racism and inequality, it is important to note that antiracists are not the only – or even primary – cause of these incidents.

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At least one member of small neo-Nazi Nationalist Social Club (aka 131 Crew) distributed the group’s stickers around Boston during unrest there over the weekend. Meanwhile, members of the group’s Tennessee chapter hung a sign that read “JOGGER” on the Alex Haley statue in Knoxville, Tennessee, “amid BLM riots nearby,” according to their Telegram channel. The word “jogger” is a newly coined, derogatory white supremacist term for a Black man, and references Ahmaud Arbery, who was murdered while jogging in his Georgia neighborhood.

On May 29, in Denver, Colorado, an apparent neo-Nazi was photographed giving a Hitler Salute, and allegedly shouted “Heil Hitler” from a vehicle after threatening peaceful protesters near the 16th Street Mall.

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White supremacist Nick Fuentes, who runs the American First podcast, chanted “Groyper” during an ABC news video report of protests in Tampa, Florida. The so-called “Groyper army” is a white supremacist group that presents its ideology as more nuanced than other groups in the white supremacist sphere.

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Others want to further exacerbate racial tensions. “Good time to stroke race relations” and “post black live’s don’t matter stickers,” a user posted to Reformthestates’ Telegram channel.

Meanwhile, a poster on Vorherrschaft Division’s Telegram channel referenced Siege, a white supremacist term for race war: “The time to get started is now white man. Prepare yourself for what is to come. When the black militias come to your door and start knocking you'd best be prepared to deal with it. Siege is coming, it's right around the corner.”

A user on ThirdPosition’s Telegram channel appears to be reveling in the chaos: “The chimps are doing our work for us. When the ashes settle we will be there to rebuild the world in our favor. Hail Final Victory!”

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"Boogaloo” and Militia Groups

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“Boogaloo” is a slang term for a future civil war; boogalooers (or “boogaloo bois, as they are sometimes called) variously anticipate, prepare for, or embrace such a violent struggle. Some white supremacists have also adopted the boogaloo concept, but most boogalooers are not white supremacist. Rather, their orientation is anti-government and vehemently anti-police, a fact that has largely shaped their reactions to the protests against George Floyd’s killing.

Many boogalooers have seen the protests as an opportunity to further their anti-police crusade and make common cause with others angry at police. One boogalooer on Instagram explained, “Even if some of the demonstrators don’t support our movement, they will learn in time our intention is pure and…we are all in the same sinking boat.”

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In sharp contrast to the boogalooers, members of the militia movement and allied groups (including the III%ers and Oath Keepers) have expressed very little empathy with the protesters. Their reaction has been far more hostile, in part because the militia movement views the protests as organized by the extreme left for nefarious purposes, but also because (unlike the boogalooers), the militia movement strongly supports President Trump.

Rather than making common cause with protesters, the militia movement has issued calls against them. “These organized protests are not about any issue other than promoting hate by socialists,” claimed a West Virginia participant in the My Militia forums. “These are hired domestic terrorists bought and paid for by the socialist conglomerates in America.”

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On May 30, self-described “Boogaloo Boy” Paul Miller posted an Instagram video of himself “reporting” from the protests in Brooklyn, New York. During the video Miller wore an igloo facemask, a reference to the “Big Igloo,” one of the phrases Boogaloo adherents use.

Boogalooers were also photographed joining protests in Norfolk, Virginia and Dallas, Texas.

In Richmond, Virginia, a small, armed group of individuals dressed in militia-style garb joined protesters on May 30. One member of the group told protesters, “We are here to help you guys. We need to come together as one.”

Anarchists

Some anarchists are opportunists and view societal unrest as a chance to destroy a “corrupt” system. They are less attached to any particular cause (antiracism, etc.) than they are to the fundamental dismantling of the state.

Brooklyn anarchist group The Base (not to be confused with the white supremacist group) tweeted its endorsement of continued “rebellion,” and threatened action against both “peace policing” and “liberal counterinsurgency” efforts.

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There are also reports that antifa (anti-fascists) have shown up at the protests. Focused on social justice issues, antifa are a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals who believe in active, sometimes aggressive opposition to far right-wing movements. They have been especially active since the 2016 presidential election.




There is no copyright on this report from the ADL

The rest of the article is worth the read
Posted by marble falls | Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:16 PM (2 replies)

Too Much Cinnamon ...

Posted by marble falls | Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:02 AM (0 replies)

Trump Hid in Nuclear Bunker While Protesters Besieged the White House

Trump Hid in Nuclear Bunker While Protesters Besieged the White House

By
VT Editors -
May 31, 2020

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/05/31/trump-hid-in-nuclear-bunker-while-protesters-besieged-the-white-house/

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VT: When the orange fat ass was threatening to unleash dogs or Tweeting away to his tanker truck driving fans, he was deep underground in a secret nuclear bunker doing the Hitler thing but without the wonderful result, a smoldering burned corpse to be found, even if Trump himself were to escape to Argentina and open an art gallery.


WASHINGTON — Inside the White House, the mood was bristling with tension. Hundreds of protesters were gathering outside the gates, shouting curses at President Trump and in some cases throwing bricks and bottles. Nervous for his safety, Secret Service agents abruptly rushed the president to the underground bunker used in the past during terrorist attacks.

The scene on Friday night, described by a person with firsthand knowledge, added to the sense of unease at the White House as demonstrations spread after the brutal death of a black man in police custody under a white officer’s knee. While in the end officials said they were never really in danger, Mr. Trump and his family have been rattled by protests that turned violent two nights in a row near the Executive Mansion.

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(CNN)As protesters gathered outside the White House Friday night in Washington, DC, President Donald Trump was briefly taken to the underground bunker for a period of time, according to a White House official and a law enforcement source.

The President was there for a little under an hour before being brought upstairs. It’s unclear if first lady Melania Trump and Barron Trump were also taken down with him.

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Trump claimed DC Mayor Muriel Bowser did not permit the DC police to “get involved,” though Secret Service later said they were on the scene.

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“No one is more upset than fellow law enforcement officers by the small handful who failed to abide by their oath to serve and protect,” Trump added.

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