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October 22, 2019
Barr is guilty of coverup...
https://twitter.com/motherjones/status/1186736164360855553
October 22, 2019
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1186628205693849601
Speaker Nancy Pelosi...
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1186424187478593536https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1186628205693849601
October 22, 2019
Meanwhile, Boris found in a ditch in Northern Ireland...
https://twitter.com/nprresist/status/1186749579863187457
October 22, 2019
Bill Taylor seems like a sympathetic figure. But he also didn't sound the alarm or take any steps to alert the public to the president's efforts to corrupt foreign policy until the whistleblower forced everything out into the open. There's a lesson here.
Taylor could've exposed a bunch of misconduct months ago. But he was new on the job, cares about Ukraine, and suddenly finds himself standing athwart this terrible extortion plot, so he tries to stop it from within.
The national security adviser is on his side, it comes down to the wire, but he wins. Aid flows. No shakedown. Easy to imagine him thinking, ’OK, things got really dicey, but I got things back on the rails, and I better stick around to keep them there.”
If Taylor's silence is understandable, even sympathetic, think of all the well meaning people in key government jobs around the world trying hard to keep things on the rails who are sitting on secrets because they think they’ve prevailed to stop some hideous corruption.
There is a lot left to learn, and we can't just cross our fingers and hope that whistleblowers come forward to expose all of it.
Bill Taylor...is he the whistleblower?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1186751715779010560.htmlBill Taylor seems like a sympathetic figure. But he also didn't sound the alarm or take any steps to alert the public to the president's efforts to corrupt foreign policy until the whistleblower forced everything out into the open. There's a lesson here.
Taylor could've exposed a bunch of misconduct months ago. But he was new on the job, cares about Ukraine, and suddenly finds himself standing athwart this terrible extortion plot, so he tries to stop it from within.
The national security adviser is on his side, it comes down to the wire, but he wins. Aid flows. No shakedown. Easy to imagine him thinking, ’OK, things got really dicey, but I got things back on the rails, and I better stick around to keep them there.”
If Taylor's silence is understandable, even sympathetic, think of all the well meaning people in key government jobs around the world trying hard to keep things on the rails who are sitting on secrets because they think they’ve prevailed to stop some hideous corruption.
There is a lot left to learn, and we can't just cross our fingers and hope that whistleblowers come forward to expose all of it.
October 22, 2019
Some days I think that if Democrats would cut a secret deal with them to impeach only Trump and not Pence, Republicans would sign on the dotted line *right now* just to get rid of this national disgrace, who will be an albatross around the neck of the Republican Party for decades
PS/ There is no plan (nor sufficient basis) to impeach Pence, based on my own research across two books. So I think it's not impossible that at least *some* Republicans are thinking, if we'd rather have Pence, why not get him installed *now* so he can run strong in November 2020?
PS2/ The fear in the Republican Party, however, is that supporting the impeachment of Trump would so alienate Trump voters that a loss in November 2020 would be inevitable—especially as Trump would spend the next year telling his cultists not to vote for *any* Republican in 2020.
PS3/ On the other hand, if Republicans banded together to say "All right we've had enough, this actually crosses a line," it'd *soften* the PR blow among Trump's cultists and—if they did it this November or December—give Pence a *year* as president to prove himself to GOP voters.
PS4/ Pence lied about whether he knew Flynn was committing a felony (by negotiating U.S. policy with foreign nations), but Democrats seem disinterested in all of that, so it'd take more info suggesting he knew about the Ukraine quid pro quo to get them to consider impeaching him.
PS5/ The only thing that really upsets me is when people say "Yeah, but wouldn't Pence be worse?" It suggests that that person has *no idea* why Trump is getting impeached—and thinks (as the GOP wrongly does) that it's just politics. It's *not*—it's because he's committed crimes.
Seth Abramson...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1186722439927160832.htmlSome days I think that if Democrats would cut a secret deal with them to impeach only Trump and not Pence, Republicans would sign on the dotted line *right now* just to get rid of this national disgrace, who will be an albatross around the neck of the Republican Party for decades
PS/ There is no plan (nor sufficient basis) to impeach Pence, based on my own research across two books. So I think it's not impossible that at least *some* Republicans are thinking, if we'd rather have Pence, why not get him installed *now* so he can run strong in November 2020?
PS2/ The fear in the Republican Party, however, is that supporting the impeachment of Trump would so alienate Trump voters that a loss in November 2020 would be inevitable—especially as Trump would spend the next year telling his cultists not to vote for *any* Republican in 2020.
PS3/ On the other hand, if Republicans banded together to say "All right we've had enough, this actually crosses a line," it'd *soften* the PR blow among Trump's cultists and—if they did it this November or December—give Pence a *year* as president to prove himself to GOP voters.
PS4/ Pence lied about whether he knew Flynn was committing a felony (by negotiating U.S. policy with foreign nations), but Democrats seem disinterested in all of that, so it'd take more info suggesting he knew about the Ukraine quid pro quo to get them to consider impeaching him.
PS5/ The only thing that really upsets me is when people say "Yeah, but wouldn't Pence be worse?" It suggests that that person has *no idea* why Trump is getting impeached—and thinks (as the GOP wrongly does) that it's just politics. It's *not*—it's because he's committed crimes.
October 22, 2019
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I agree with the Con on his statement that he could shoot someone and get away with it....we have a history of letting rich guys get away with murder...aka...the juice
Until I see this, I am not counting my chickens...
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I agree with the Con on his statement that he could shoot someone and get away with it....we have a history of letting rich guys get away with murder...aka...the juice
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