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If Clinton wins a clear majority of pledged delegates, does anyone think Sanders will be nominated?

Let's say Clinton leads 2175 to 1876 (a reasonable projection) heading into the convention. Is there anyone here who honestly thinks Sanders will be nominated?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

If so, please provide an example of when such a thing has happened and explain how that occurrence relates to the Clinton-Sanders race.

If not, can we please put an end to all of the irrelevant superdelegate threads?

Bonus question: Does anyone here honestly believe Sanders will end up with 2026 or more pledged delegates? Anyone? Anyone at all?

Persons of Color Must Be at the Forefront of Any Sustainable, Comprehensive Political Revolution.

I suspect Sanders supporters are more likely than Clinton supporters to deny that racial justice and economic justice are 2 distinct entities (which they clearly are, as evidenced by wealthy persons of color being mistreated in ways poor white folks don't experience). They're also probably more likely to either deny or underestimate white (male) privilege.

The Sanders campaign is and always has been a message campaign, and the message isn't wrong, per se. In fact, he's mostly right when it comes to matters of political corruption and the plutocratic nature of US government (it's absurd, for instance, to suggest that campaign "contributions" and payments for speeches don't have any influence on public policy). Some of his supporters, though, have gone off into grand conspiracy land. And some of his supporters have suggested that a Trump presidency would be preferable to a Clinton presidency, which not only strikes me as insane but also insulting to persons of color.

But the truth in Bernie's message aside, there will be no comprehensive "political revolution" without persons of color at the forefront. And, though it may seem counterintuitive, millennials (who comprise a large block of Sanders' supporters) are among the most ignorant when it comes to matters of race and the history of race relations in the US. 2 articles on that topic, which I encourage everyone to read:

1) "Millennials Are More Racist Than They Think"

2) "Is the Millennial Generation's Racial Tolerance Overstated?"

Is broad systemic change sorely needed? Absolutely. Might the Sanders campaign spur a movement toward systemic change? It's possible. But the message and the messengers require some pretty substantial modification.

Technically Speaking vs. Practically Speaking

An awful lot of wasted thread space is being devoted to arguing a point with which nobody in their right mind would disagree, which is that Clinton has not yet reached 2383 delegates or 2026 pledged delegates. Or that Clinton likely won't reach 2383 prior to the convention--as if that matters.

Technically speaking, of course the race isn't over and of course the convention has not yet taken place. Duh.

Practically speaking, however, Clinton pretty much had the nomination sewn up March 15th. I would argue (and did argue last year) that Sanders never stood a chance, but that's beside the point. Mathematical and demographic realities made the impending result crystal clear by mid-March.
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