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February 3, 2016
This is, apparently, what a caucus looks like in a Presidential race in America in 2016.
The footage is taken from precinct #43 in Des Moines, Iowa, where supporters of Clinton and Sanders gathered to determine the delegate count for the candidates.
The description of the video, posted on the C-SPAN website, claims Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus. Reports suggest that Sanders was winning during an initial vote, but when a recount was called, Clinton gained the lead.
One person who was at the event at Roosevelt High School took to Reddit to explain:
So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side theyre sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this:
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 OMalley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clintons vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillarys team didnt take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasnt an accurate count.
The footage appears to verify this with the Clinton camp admitting they did not do a second full count and that they just added the (new) people.
Does that add up right? one of the organizer is heard asking the caucus chair, who replies I dont think so.
Nevertheless, a challenge by Sanders supporters for a third count was rejected and Clinton was handed a victory. This monumental cluster f*ck was just one 1,600 caucus sites around the state of Iowa. Who knows what went on elsewhere.
In another video, Clinton and Sanders supporters are seen remonstrating with caucus organizers in Ames who were attempting to move the caucus outside, refusing to start counting votes because their building was too full.
The incident led to much finger pointing and apparently many people abandoning the caucus and going home.
Video: Clinton Voter Fraud In Action? What a 'fuster cluck'!
&feature=youtu.beThis is, apparently, what a caucus looks like in a Presidential race in America in 2016.
The footage is taken from precinct #43 in Des Moines, Iowa, where supporters of Clinton and Sanders gathered to determine the delegate count for the candidates.
The description of the video, posted on the C-SPAN website, claims Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus. Reports suggest that Sanders was winning during an initial vote, but when a recount was called, Clinton gained the lead.
One person who was at the event at Roosevelt High School took to Reddit to explain:
So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side theyre sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this:
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 OMalley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clintons vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillarys team didnt take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasnt an accurate count.
The footage appears to verify this with the Clinton camp admitting they did not do a second full count and that they just added the (new) people.
Does that add up right? one of the organizer is heard asking the caucus chair, who replies I dont think so.
Nevertheless, a challenge by Sanders supporters for a third count was rejected and Clinton was handed a victory. This monumental cluster f*ck was just one 1,600 caucus sites around the state of Iowa. Who knows what went on elsewhere.
In another video, Clinton and Sanders supporters are seen remonstrating with caucus organizers in Ames who were attempting to move the caucus outside, refusing to start counting votes because their building was too full.
The incident led to much finger pointing and apparently many people abandoning the caucus and going home.
February 3, 2016
Edward Snowden on the coin toss: "It turns out money decides elections after all."
Funny, sad, and true. We must support Senator Sanders to get the money out of politics and make this statement 'untrue
February 2, 2016
Ed Shultz reporting on RT - Caucuses staying open, lines out the doors, and overflow!
They are speculating it is the Sanders and Trump campaigns, so energized.
WOW! Ed will be having a moment with Bernie tonight on his show, on RT, airing now!
Happy caucusing!
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Name: Kevin FoxeGender: Male
Hometown: Detroit/Michigan/Midwest
Home country: USA
Current location: Florida
Member since: Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:59 PM
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