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Archdiocese in Minnesota Plans to Settle With Abuse Victims for $210 Million


In one of the biggest settlements of its kind, the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis plans to establish a $210 million trust fund for hundreds of victims of clergy sexual abuse, the archbishop announced on Thursday.

The plan is the result of a yearslong battle and arduous negotiations in one of the country’s most high-profile cases involving abuse in the Roman Catholic Church.

If approved, the settlement will be the largest ever for a sex abuse case involving an archdiocese that has filed for bankruptcy protection and the second largest over all, said Terry McKiernan, co-director and president of BishopAccountability.org, which tracks clergy sex abuse cases. (According to the website, the largest settlement, $660 million, was reached by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and 508 survivors in 2007.)

https://nytimes.com/2018/05/31/us/catholic-abuse-settlement-minnesota.html

Roseanne Barr.



Never watched either of her awful shows. The news that she got sacked by abc just made me laugh, for once, at her act.

Why do some people in this forum appear to believe that

it is acceptable to have a "pro-theism" position but unacceptable to have and "anti-theism" position?

Can Ireland Be Catholic Without the Church?

An attempt to salvage something from the RCC’s debacle in Ireland:

It has become common in recent years to declare the end of Catholic Ireland. By now, it’s a familiar story: the clerical abuse scandals which made headlines in the 1990s so undermined the institution that it has been on a slow slide into irrelevance since, with Friday’s vote to repeal the country’s ban on abortion the latest — and in some ways, most significant — in a string of losses that have included the decriminalization of homosexuality and divorce and the legalization of same-sex marriage.

The importance of Friday’s vote as a blow to the institutional Catholic Church should not be understated. At times, it seemed as much a referendum on the church’s historic treatment of women as it was about abortion itself. Stories dating back decades of women who had been at the receiving end of the church’s intolerance have not lost their power to rouse public anger.

But if it’s clear that the institution of the church no longer commands the moral authority or the loyalty in Ireland that it once did, the end of Catholic Ireland, too, is an overstatement. Ireland remains defined by its relationship with Catholicism, because it has yet to develop another way to be. What isn’t yet clear is what the social and political consequences of this new relationship with the church are.


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/opinion/ireland-catholic-abortion-referendum.html

Ireland Votes to End Abortion Ban in Rebuke to Catholic Church


DUBLIN — Ireland voted decisively to repeal one of the world’s more restrictive abortion bans, sweeping aside generations of conservative patriarchy and dealing the latest in a series of stinging rebukes to the Roman Catholic Church.

The surprising landslide, reflected in the results announced on Saturday, cemented the nation’s liberal shift at a time when right-wing populism is on the rise in Europe and the Trump administration is imposing curbs on abortion rights in the United States. In the past three years alone, Ireland has installed a gay man as prime minister and has voted in another referendum to allow same-sex marriage.

But this was a particularly wrenching issue for Irish voters, even for supporters of the measure. And it was not clear until the end that the momentum toward socially liberal policies would be powerful enough to sweep away deeply ingrained opposition to abortion.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/world/europe/ireland-abortion-yes.html

The collapse of the RCC in Ireland is a modern day miracle. There is hope yet for humanity.

Pope tells bishops not to accept gay seminarians: report

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis warned Italian bishops this week to vet carefully applicants to the priesthood and reject anyone they suspected might be homosexual, local media reported on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-homosexuality/pope-tells-bishops-not-to-accept-gay-seminarians-report-idUSKCN1IP36J

Bergoglio and his church remain a bastion of bigotry.

What if gods never existed?

What would the world be like if there were no gods?

Why are many posts here nearly identical?

So a good man with no gun.

Stopped a bad man with a gun.

I’m sure that this will be spun:

“We need us moar gunz!”

Jesus vs Socrates: who made the greater sacrifice?

Jesus: born circa 4 BCE, died circa CE 30-33. Cause of death: execution by crucifixion.

Jesus of Nazareth is believed by most Christians to be an immortal incarnation of the christian god, and his death is viewed as a sacrificial act that brought the possibility of salvation and eternal life to all people.

Jesus was executed for expressing heretical religious views. Jesus refused opportunities to avoid execution by renouncing his beliefs.

If one believes that Jesus was the incarnation of an immortal deity, one also has to accept that Jesus knew his execution was not the end of his existence, that he died knowing his death was temporary, to be followed shortly by his resurrection and ascension into heaven.


Socrates: born c 470 BCE, died circa 399 BCE. Cause of death: execution by poison.


Socrates was a classical Greek philosopher generally credited as one of the founders of western philosophy, and specifically the Socratic method of rational inquiry.

Socrates was executed for expressing heretical religious views. Socrates refused opportunities to avoid execution by renouncing his beliefs.

As Socrates did not believe he was immortal, he had no expectation that his death was anything other the the end of his life.
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