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KY_EnviroGuy

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March 22, 2020

Home remediation companies would have the most....

meaning those that do remediation from fire, water and mold damage.

Painting and drywall companies use them to but maybe not N95 grade.

March 22, 2020

Feel free to pass it on because I don't use social media.

I would guess many of these companies have many dozens of these masks if not hundreds in stores warehouses. They keep a lot around for regular maintenance and scheduled outages.

Same with Tyvek protective suits. They buy them by multiple case lots and in two or three sizes.

Chemical plants would have lots of rubber gloves.

These are a few of the types of plant that would have this stuff in quantities:

* Power plants.

* Paper mills.

* Cement plants.

* Steel and aluminum mills.

* Grain and food production plants where grains and flour are handled.

* Glass plants.

* Chemical plants of all sorts.

* Refineries.

* Mines and ore refining plants and rock crusher plants.

Other:

* Industrial construction companies.

* Industrial service companies.

* Industrial vacuum truck and hazardous waste companies.

If you call such companies, ask for their plant manager, assistant manager or the chief safety officer.

I know these things because I worked in those industries for many years and used those items.

March 22, 2020

IMPORTANT: Here's a potential source for filter masks.

There's probably a lot of N95s stored away in industry that can be freed up.

Any plant or construction company may have masks warehoused for industrial use but someone would need to request them.

They are used by the thousands in plants like power plants, paper mills, cement plants and others where dust is involved during routine or maintenance work. They are kept in plant store rooms, maintenance shops and safety offices. I used quite a lot of these during my service work jobs, along with half-face and full-face respirators.

Another potential source would be construction firms that do work in the plants mentioned above and they keep many of them either in a company warehouse or in their construction trailers.

Many of these plants will be slowed or shut down and I really think plant managers would be willing to donate.

I have no idea how a logical connection could be made between medical people and these sources, but government seems the rational path.

All it would take is a call to a plant manager with an explanation of the dire circumstances and I bet they would donate most of what they have in stores to EMTs, clinics and hospitals.

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(added 3/22/20)

This page from WW Grainger gives us an idea of what they were selling for prior to the big rush:

Link: https://www.grainger.com/search/safety/respiratory-protection/disposable-respirators-and-dust-masks?attrs=Respirator+Filter+Class%7CN95&filters=attrs&optOut=0

Looks like $2 or less in lots of 20 was quite common.

KY.............
March 22, 2020

There's probably a lot of N95s stored away in industry that may can be freed up.

Any plant or construction company might have mask warehoused for industrial use but someone would need to request them.

They are used by the thousands in plants like power plants, paper mills, cement plants and others where dust is involved during routine or maintenance work. They are kept in plant store rooms, maintenance shops and safety offices. I used quite a lot of these during my service work jobs, along with half-face and full-face respirators.

Another potential source would be construction firms that do work in the plants mentioned above and they keep many of them either in a company warehouse or in their construction trailers.

Many of these plants will be slowed or shut down and I really think plant managers would be willing to donate.

I have no idea how a logical connection could be made between medical people and these sources, but government seems the rational path.

March 22, 2020

Yes but vaguely. I was in grade school.

The things that stuck in mind my are: The adults were absolutely scared to death because some kids had died in our area and I vaguely remember getting the vaccine. Not sure but I'm thinking it was given to us on sugar cubes and maybe more than once.

No one in my family or close friends had the disease but I do recall seeing some kids with the leg braces.

Raised in a small country farm town with grade school and high school on one campus. Don't have good recall from those times even though I had a great childhood.

March 21, 2020

Many essential oils and some seed oils are powerful anti-virals.

For example, Tea Tree oil is known to be a very powerful killer of many bacteria and viruses from the past. Others of note are ravensara, clove, thyme, camphor, eucalyptus, fenugreek, lime, peppermint, oregano and pine oils.

The problem is, just like many powerful home chemical products, few if any have been tested on this specific virus.

I suggest studying these two papers, two of many available on-line from credibly institutions around the globe that outline some of the current research to date:

Interim guidance for environmental cleaning in non-healthcare facilities exposed to SARS-CoV-2
ECDC TECHNICAL REPORT
18February2020

Link: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/coronavirus-SARS-CoV-2-guidance-environmental-cleaning-non-healthcare-facilities.pdf

and.......

Virucidal Activity of World Health Organization–Recommended Formulations Against Enveloped Viruses, Including Zika, Ebola, and Emerging Coronaviruses

Link: https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/215/6/902/2965582

I would not make specific recommendations to anyone regarding any product - natural or synthetic - with this virus because it is a novel virus which means it's brand-new to science. So, our choices are our own and we make them at our own risk.

KY........

March 21, 2020

One word: psychopathy.

From an evolutionary viewpoint, my amateur theory is that we all have a touch of psychopath in us from our primitive ancestors, many of which had to be brutal assholes to survive.

Some of us have far more of that genetic trait than others. The ones plagued with a moderate degree of it in the general population are mostly Republicans (or Tories in the UK) and those with a high degree of it are either in prison or are corporate officers.

However, those of us with much lesser effects of that genetic trait are Democrats.

Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

KY......

March 21, 2020

This is guaranteed to touch your heart.

Man allowed to sing outside his love's nursing home window
Updated: 7:47 PM EDT Mar 19, 2020
Julie Loncich, Reporter

See video and story here: https://www.wlwt.com/article/man-allowed-to-sing-outside-loves-nursing-home-window/31792086

(excerpt)
BOSTON — A Massachusetts man who was initially told he could not serenade the love of his life through her window at a South Boston nursing home was finally allowed to strum his tune of love. Ed Oliver Bohld's longtime girlfriend, Mary Lou, has been living at the Compass on the Bay assisted living facility for five years.

He visits her daily and on Wednesday decided to do something special. He rode his bike with a guitar in tow and planned to serenade her outside her window. Bohld claims his first request to sing to Mary Lou through her window was flatly denied, even though he did not ask to have her window opened.

"I said: 'No, I don’t expect you to open the window. I have a manly voice. I can be heard through the glass,'" Bohld said. Massachusetts officials have imposed new rules for visitors at hospitals and nursing homes amid the coronavirus outbreak, which include a no-visitor policy inside the facility.

Touched my heart deeply on a cold gloomy day, as many no longer have anyone to serenade.

KY..........
March 21, 2020

Boris Johnson's libertarian views behind hesitancy to lock down Britain

Coronavirus: Johnson's libertarian views behind hesitancy to lock down Britain
The prime minister sets the bar high for getting the state involved in “people's everyday lives," a former spokesman said.

Read here: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-johnson-s-libertarian-views-behind-hesitancy-lock-down-britain-n1164786

(snip)
LONDON — Coronavirus deaths are beginning to spiral in the United Kingdom. The government's expert advisers warn that the only way to contain the disease is to impose draconian controls on people's social lives for 18 months until a vaccine is found.

But — despite dire warnings that his health service may be overwhelmed — Prime Minister Boris Johnson resisted forcing his population to adopt the types of lockdown measures seen in the United States and across Europe until Friday, when he announced that all pubs, cafes, restaurants, nightclubs and gyms were to close down for the forseeable future.
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Until Friday, Johnson had asked — not told — people to stop nonessential contact, to avoid bars, restaurants and theaters, and to self-isolate if they or one of their family members has symptoms. Only this week did he close schools for all but the children of essential workers.

This policy can partly be explained by the prime minister's own strong sense that the government should not tell people what to do unless absolutely necessary, according to Guto Harri, who was a spokesman for Johnson when he was mayor of London.

"He's not some anarchist libertarian, but he does approach things on the basis that you really have to set the bar quite high to justify the state getting involved in people's everyday lives," Harri told NBC News by telephone Friday.

"It's not an absolute, but he does have to be persuaded that drastic measures are justified," he added. "He also has a more benign view of human nature than the assumption that everyone needs to be treated like a child and be told by daddy what to do."

Elections have consequences, yaw'll.....
March 21, 2020

Restaurants are getting desperate and innovative.

In the last few days, I've gotten emails from several local restaurants offer things like curbside pickup and even delivery from places I never dreamed of....Cracker Barrel and Texas Roadhouse.

Sadly, that does not guarantee what's inside the bag is safe.

Many others have sent emails to assure customers their practices are safe......as best they know.

I told my son who I'm isolated with if we get carry out, it must be something we can reheat to a point known to neutralize this virus but we have not yet got brave enough to try anything.

I'm thinking pizza or pulled-pork BBQ........

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