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Can we make an ad with Jon Stewart's words? If this is America First , we are F**ked

Show up all the hypocrites who claim to support veterans but vote against them.
Say they back the blue, but are perfectly fine with Capitol police getting attacked.
I’m sure there are other clever ideas to add.
Posted by tulipsandroses | Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:00 PM (4 replies)

Does everyone have a price? Re: LIV tournament

And you could add the GOP sellouts too. I had this argument with a friend several months ago. ( He’s a conspiracy nut, by the way)
His argument was everyone has a price. Even for people who claim they don’t, the right price hasn’t been offered.

I disagree. I think there are many people with strong principles who would not go against those principles. Even for a shot at 200 million dollars?

Another good point made earlier, there are fewer athletes in golf, but could the Saudis woo the top athletes in the NFL, NBA,WNBA, MLB to play in their own leagues, thus leaving a void in those sports?
Posted by tulipsandroses | Thu Jul 28, 2022, 03:09 PM (10 replies)

If Hershel Walker is ready to debate, why hasn't he agreed to any?

https://twitter.com/ReverendWarnock/status/1551538042539737089
Posted by tulipsandroses | Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:50 PM (5 replies)

Police Chief: "I Shot That N-Word 119 Times"

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Posted by tulipsandroses | Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:20 PM (6 replies)

Music Appreciation for the Hawley Run/ Bruno Mars

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Posted by tulipsandroses | Sat Jul 23, 2022, 09:14 AM (4 replies)

We no longer have to wonder if Chumpie will have SS detail if he goes to prison

They can send Ornato, Engel and all the MAGAT agents right along with him.
Posted by tulipsandroses | Thu Jul 21, 2022, 11:42 PM (4 replies)

Who drew the short straw tonight to beg Chumpie not to announce he's going to run

Until after this year’s election?

Tonight’s hearing for me was the worst. It made me sad for the country. I already knew it was horrific, but just having everything laid out like it did tonight, I felt the same sense of sadness that I felt on 01/06.
I have even more disgust for the GOP today.
They are a disgrace. They know what he did and still refuse to condemn him.
Birds of a feather.

He’s said it numerous times, but every time I heard, “my people, his people, other side”
Lady Ruby’s words jumped out at me, “The president is supposed to be the president of all people”.

I think those words by Lady Ruby will be quoted in history books.

That’s if they don’t ban those books.


Posted by tulipsandroses | Thu Jul 21, 2022, 10:56 PM (2 replies)

Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth

Original thread in GD forum

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216946383

These cases are older cases, but I imagine that with the fall of Roe, incidents like these will be more common.

Forced Cesarean Section
SNIP———
When an attorney for the hospital argued that it was appropriate to sacrifice a dying woman for her fetus, one judge replied incredulously, "Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth?"
In the most notorious incident, in 1987 administrators of George Washington University Hospital went to court to force Angela Carder, a pregnant woman ill with cancer, to undergo a cesarean section. When both she and her critically premature baby died shortly after the surgery, the c-section was listed as a contributing cause of her death.

At the age of 27, Carder had already survived two previous bouts of cancer by undergoing aggressive treatments of chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery. With her cancer in remission and optimistic about her prognosis, she married and became pregnant.

When Carder was 26 weeks pregnant, doctors discovered that her cancer had returned and metastasized. Carder, her parents, her husband, and the hospital's obstetrical staff agreed on a course of treatment aimed at keeping her alive for at least another two weeks, at which point intervention to save the fetus might be possible. According to Carder's mother, her daughter "wanted to live long enough to hold that baby." But, as Carder's condition rapidly deteriorated, hospital administrators feared she would not live that long. They rushed to court and obtained an order authorizing the hospital to perform an immediate c-section. They did so without first contacting Carder's longtime cancer specialist, who later stated that he would have testified that the operation at that point in time was "medically inadvisable both for Angela Carder and for the fetus." Fearing that neither Angela nor the fetus would survive the surgery, Carder's husband, parents, and obstetricians all opposed the c-section at 26 and a half weeks gestation; when Carder herself learned of the court order, she said repeatedly, "I don't want it done."

https://www.aclu.org/other/coercive-and-punitive-governmental-responses-womens-conduct-during-pregnancy

Laura Pemberton was in active labor in her home in Florida. Her doctors believed she was putting her unborn child in danger by attempting to have a vaginal birth after cesarean so they obtained a court order to force her to have a C-section. The sheriff went to her home, took her into custody, strapped her legs together and forced her to go to the hospital where an emergency hearing determined the state’s interest in protecting her unborn baby. Laura and her husband were not allowed legal counsel. Ultimately, she was forced to have the surgery she’d refused and felt was unnecessary. When she later sued for violation of civil rights, the court ruled that the state’s interest outweighed Laura’s First, Fourth and Fourteenth amendment rights. Laura subsequently gave birth vaginally to three other healthy children, calling into question the medical predictions of harm from VBAC.

https://blog.everymothercounts.org/a-new-study-details-how-roe-v-wade-and-proposed-personhood-laws-affect-every-woman-b6450825d48
Posted by tulipsandroses | Tue Jul 19, 2022, 10:27 PM (1 replies)

Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth

These cases are older cases, but I imagine that with the fall of Roe, incidents like these will be more common.

Forced Cesarean Section
SNIP———
When an attorney for the hospital argued that it was appropriate to sacrifice a dying woman for her fetus, one judge replied incredulously, "Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth?"
In the most notorious incident, in 1987 administrators of George Washington University Hospital went to court to force Angela Carder, a pregnant woman ill with cancer, to undergo a cesarean section. When both she and her critically premature baby died shortly after the surgery, the c-section was listed as a contributing cause of her death.

At the age of 27, Carder had already survived two previous bouts of cancer by undergoing aggressive treatments of chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery. With her cancer in remission and optimistic about her prognosis, she married and became pregnant.

When Carder was 26 weeks pregnant, doctors discovered that her cancer had returned and metastasized. Carder, her parents, her husband, and the hospital's obstetrical staff agreed on a course of treatment aimed at keeping her alive for at least another two weeks, at which point intervention to save the fetus might be possible. According to Carder's mother, her daughter "wanted to live long enough to hold that baby." But, as Carder's condition rapidly deteriorated, hospital administrators feared she would not live that long. They rushed to court and obtained an order authorizing the hospital to perform an immediate c-section. They did so without first contacting Carder's longtime cancer specialist, who later stated that he would have testified that the operation at that point in time was "medically inadvisable both for Angela Carder and for the fetus." Fearing that neither Angela nor the fetus would survive the surgery, Carder's husband, parents, and obstetricians all opposed the c-section at 26 and a half weeks gestation; when Carder herself learned of the court order, she said repeatedly, "I don't want it done."

https://www.aclu.org/other/coercive-and-punitive-governmental-responses-womens-conduct-during-pregnancy

Laura Pemberton was in active labor in her home in Florida. Her doctors believed she was putting her unborn child in danger by attempting to have a vaginal birth after cesarean so they obtained a court order to force her to have a C-section. The sheriff went to her home, took her into custody, strapped her legs together and forced her to go to the hospital where an emergency hearing determined the state’s interest in protecting her unborn baby. Laura and her husband were not allowed legal counsel. Ultimately, she was forced to have the surgery she’d refused and felt was unnecessary. When she later sued for violation of civil rights, the court ruled that the state’s interest outweighed Laura’s First, Fourth and Fourteenth amendment rights. Laura subsequently gave birth vaginally to three other healthy children, calling into question the medical predictions of harm from VBAC.

https://blog.everymothercounts.org/a-new-study-details-how-roe-v-wade-and-proposed-personhood-laws-affect-every-woman-b6450825d48
Posted by tulipsandroses | Tue Jul 19, 2022, 07:57 PM (15 replies)

In Honor of Love is Love, I present Daughtry -As You Are

On this day that Congress will try to codify marriage equality.

Randomly remembered this song today and sent it to my son, A queer black man with Bipolar Disorder. He knows momma loves him, just nice to remind him how much I do when he least expects it.

Such a beautiful song to those we love that society often beats up on.

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Posted by tulipsandroses | Tue Jul 19, 2022, 05:39 PM (0 replies)
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