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Hekate

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36. Those "three white guys" started this site in what was then our darkest hour...

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:47 PM

Dec 2017

Dinging them for their ethnicity is BS. They did the hard work.

This site has had its ups and downs, sometimes through an excess of tolerance. We got overrun by trolls more than once, and you can look for their spiteful spinoff sites and read their ongoing grievances over having been outed and ousted.

You want to see more feminists and POC? Then speak out and help make this a more honest and welcoming arena. If you see bigoted or trollish behavior, call it out and/or alert on it. Don't tolerate it.

But don't gripe that the people who had the vision and did the hard work are either male or white. That doesn't fly.

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Ta-Nehisi Coates Deletes Twitter Account Amid Cornel West Feud: 'Peace, Y'all. I'm Out' [View all] DonViejo Dec 2017 OP

What a nightmare this has been. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #1

Godamnit. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #2

I stand with Ta-Nehisi Coates DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #3

+1 PunkinPi Dec 2017 #4

Same here. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #9

I stand with everything except his lumping feminists with white supremacists. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #18

Same nt Quayblue Dec 2017 #52

Me too! FM123 Dec 2017 #66

I stand with Coates, too. I've actively defended West in the past, but not this time. ancianita Dec 2017 #90

I don't know exactly when it happened sharp_stick Dec 2017 #5

Him and Tavis Smiley went nuts over percieved slights by Barack Obama brush Dec 2017 #17

Trust me we have been looking for his mind for years now, but it is definitely lost. grantcart Dec 2017 #26

Yes. Seems likely he was forced into a degree Hortensis Dec 2017 #27

I always felt Cornel West was nutty, never liked him marylandblue Dec 2017 #28

Same here. He's been spewing the same gibberish for 40 years. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2017 #64

This is why we can't have nice things... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #6

New Republic Article from Michael Eric Dyson irisblue Dec 2017 #7

We also need to fucking kill the word "Neoliberal" Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #11

"neoliberal".. they're just full of Cha Dec 2017 #24

People tell me 'neo-liberal' has an actual meaning. comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #38

Yes, it has actual meaning. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #44

In what ways are "most Democrats holding office" neoliberals? lapucelle Dec 2017 #71

I'll give you ten dollars and some peanut brittle if you give examples of how Dems are neoliberal. betsuni Dec 2017 #87

They never EVER have a cogent answer. JHan Dec 2017 #96

The ACA. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #99

Joe Lieberman killed the public option. Everybody knows this. betsuni Dec 2017 #118

I've noticed that quite often, it's those pretending to have the answer who never allow us objective LanternWaste Dec 2017 #110

Neoliberalism favors deregulation, privatization, austerity, lapucelle Dec 2017 #72

Mahalo lapucelle.. Cha Dec 2017 #79

Reagan was the prototypical neoliberal. lapucelle Dec 2017 #82

Good... glad they got that Cha Dec 2017 #83

Seriously, when is it time to finally have the discussion about Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #8

Don't forget.. Cha Dec 2017 #16

"Red Rose Twitter" melman Dec 2017 #20

So defensive emulatorloo Dec 2017 #29

Defensive? melman Dec 2017 #47

Dunno, criticism of Bernie or Buster stuff doesn't freak me out. Bernie primary supporter here. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #65

If you aren't on twitter radical noodle Dec 2017 #85

I'm not defending anything melman Dec 2017 #94

What's your Twitter handle? Arazi Dec 2017 #53

Not a twitter member. No interest in being a member. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #62

Uh huh. So you're dinging someone for making an obvious observation Arazi Dec 2017 #67

What an odd thing to write. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #69

Btw my comment wasn't about twitter nor was it addressed to you emulatorloo Dec 2017 #76

+1000000000 betsuni Dec 2017 #23

+One! Cha Dec 2017 #59

It's more than time to have this discussion mcar Dec 2017 #57

No kidding! Cha Dec 2017 #58

Cha! mcar Dec 2017 #60

Where have you been? nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #73

Moving to Cha Dec 2017 #80

Enjoy your new home. The news blackout was a mixed bag. Blue_true Dec 2017 #84

Mahalo Blue_true.. Cha Dec 2017 #86

Here in NY, our local Democratic Women's Caucus helped flip our red county blue. lapucelle Dec 2017 #95

Mahalo, lapucelle! Cha Dec 2017 #116

I like your terminology "Kremlin Left". I am letting you that jrthin Dec 2017 #61

I love the term too. Blue_true Dec 2017 #74

an article that guves west his due, but shows why he is so f***ing wrong here DonCoquixote Dec 2017 #10

A good read. Thanks. I like The Root. ancianita Dec 2017 #91

I wish we had more AA voices here. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #12

I do too. nt irisblue Dec 2017 #14

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #15

That's not the fault of the site owners. It was obnoxious out of control members emulatorloo Dec 2017 #32

That's what I thought too. I don't see a lot of activity on the part of the owners/admins... Caliman73 Dec 2017 #37

Really? Can you name the obnoxious and out of control AA and/or female voices VermontKevin Dec 2017 #39

You either misunderstood or chose to misunderstand that statement Hekate Dec 2017 #46

Read my post again. I did not say anything like that! emulatorloo Dec 2017 #63

Those "three white guys" started this site in what was then our darkest hour... Hekate Dec 2017 #36

Yes. Thank you for pointing out that in 17 years, the control hasn't changed. VermontKevin Dec 2017 #41

Ahem. Thank you for arriving 6 months ago from Vermont to school us on diversity... Hekate Dec 2017 #45

'arriving 6 months ago' melman Dec 2017 #48

Yeah. He sure has a lot of opinions on our history, doesn't he? Hekate Dec 2017 #49

Not any more, nyuk nyuk. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #88

What does this post mean? Did some of the people here "target" this poster and Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #100

Huh? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #111

You didnt understand my question? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #112

Say what now? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #117

Of course not JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #119

Yeah, I guess so. I just want to talk to people who support Democrats, is all. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #121

Must be JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #120

Like the way you have treated me of late? Cary Dec 2017 #98

We had an intense argument and both got under each other's skin... Hekate Dec 2017 #113

That should have been something considered Skidmore Dec 2017 #21

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #30

A lot happened during primary 2016 at DU you may be unaware of. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #35

Well, I follow lots of banned DUers on Twitter who are POC. Don't VermontKevin Dec 2017 #43

How many is "lots"? And have you ever bothered to visit the AA group here? Hekate Dec 2017 #51

Really? And how did you reach this understanding? Which site is your other home? Hekate Dec 2017 #50

Oh, come on, Skidmore. Gratitude and admiration for turnout Hortensis Dec 2017 #33

Except, Alabama. Virginia. 2016. Maybe the plain old massive white vote, as you say, VermontKevin Dec 2017 #42

we used to heaven05 Dec 2017 #54

Yup ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #68

yep heaven05 Dec 2017 #108

Truth! nt brer cat Dec 2017 #70

In short many POC who once posted on DU no longer do? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #101

The reason why is glaringly obvious but I don't feel free comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #103

Ahh, I was afraid of that. Mums the word as they used to say. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #104

Indeed, one must be extremely careful about what one posts. comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #105

Can I say if people hadnt done what they did none of this nightmare Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #106

I'm not so sure we can relate the flaws of DU to the comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #115

Ask any of heaven05 Dec 2017 #107

I have a liberal response to that about racism but I cant say it here. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #109

cornel west is a jealous has been. Cha Dec 2017 #13

He's toxic. I can't stand him. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #22

Richard Spencer Cha Dec 2017 #25

When I saw Spencers tweet backing West irisblue Dec 2017 #78

cornel should Cha Dec 2017 #81

The word "neoliberal" has become a crutch for the ignorant. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #19

More drama in the Trumpian Reality TV Era. writerJT Dec 2017 #31

Cornell West used to be an accomplished and interesting, albeit derivative, academic philosopher... blitzen Dec 2017 #34

I have developed such a disdain for Dr. West these past 2 years - The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #40

Same here. He lives in the LaLa land of big White, higher education and looks down his nose Yavin4 Dec 2017 #55

Cornell West is a nut. Look at his eyes when he talks. Blue_true Dec 2017 #77

Coates is a badass researcher and writer roscoeroscoe Dec 2017 #56

I hope Coates reconsiders. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #75

Why is he leaving? Dawson Leery Dec 2017 #89

Probably to avoid saying something he'll regret. nt ecstatic Dec 2017 #93

CW is disgusting. I'm so sick of him. It's better that TNC ecstatic Dec 2017 #92

This thread by Jelani Cobb exposes West's hypocrisy. JHan Dec 2017 #97

I do not get these twitter feuds. It seems like middle school name-calling drama to me. Tipperary Dec 2017 #102