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brooklynite

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9. When I was 13, I was pretty clear on that "don't kill or injure people" thing...

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:21 PM

Dec 2017

...If you believe the leniency is called for to improve rehabilitation, why wouldn't that apply to an adult doing the same thing?

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Ohio teens charged with murder over sandbag tossed from overpass [View all] IronLionZion Dec 2017 OP

Try them as adults. Aristus Dec 2017 #1

Distressing, but we can always choose not to read Hortensis Dec 2017 #46

Bullshit. My grandfather went into the coal mines at 13 Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #84

No one said they did not. This is DU, where Democrats Hortensis Dec 2017 #87

I don't disagree, but ... Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #88

Agree. Our systems overall do a lot better, of course, Hortensis Dec 2017 #89

No. They have childrens undeveloped judgment and should be adjudicated in Juv court. Shrike47 Dec 2017 #65

They sealed their own fates when they decided to deliberately drop a heavy object off Aristus Dec 2017 #72

These are 13 and 14 year olds gratuitous Dec 2017 #2

I agree. n/t demmiblue Dec 2017 #13

They are *NOT* "children." Archae Dec 2017 #20

They are children. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #30

You would simply do away... tonedevil Dec 2017 #31

A child being tried as an adult is never predicated on "they deserve" it. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #40

I disagree gratuitous Dec 2017 #48

Yes they are. n/t demmiblue Dec 2017 #54

13 and 14 year olds are not adults Skittles Dec 2017 #61

So if found not guilty they should have all the rights of an adult also??? nt USALiberal Dec 2017 #77

Young Psychopaths need to be tried as adults for murder. democratisphere Dec 2017 #3

WTF is with kids these days? john657 Dec 2017 #4

Kids have been doing this for decades. maxsolomon Dec 2017 #11

I grew up in the country. Blue_true Dec 2017 #21

Rural upbringing here too. MrsMatt Dec 2017 #60

The human brain is not fully developed until age 25 dflprincess Dec 2017 #81

No, they are charged with murder for killing someone. SharonClark Dec 2017 #5

The news report didn't say lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #6

They should be tried as adults and, if convicted, avebury Dec 2017 #7

Nothing you stated... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #33

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #63

Charging children as adults reduces the chance at rehabilitation and puts them at risk of violence. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #8

When I was 13, I was pretty clear on that "don't kill or injure people" thing... brooklynite Dec 2017 #9

That's wonderful. Did you understand the legal system? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #10

Actually yes... brooklynite Dec 2017 #14

This explains so much. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #18

You appear to have come from an educated set of parents. Blue_true Dec 2017 #25

My parents were not educated and worked multiple jobs SharonClark Dec 2017 #29

Your parents had the right idea. Blue_true Dec 2017 #35

LOL, sure you did, cool story Bro! USALiberal Dec 2017 #76

I'm not surprised at all that you are either unwilling or unable to discern the relevant legal diffe LanternWaste Dec 2017 #42

Goody goody for you... tonedevil Dec 2017 #44

There is no such thing as rehabilitation. Codeine Dec 2017 #15

I'm curious, what do you base your view on? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #19

Hard-won experience from a lifetime Codeine Dec 2017 #22

Thanks for your response. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #24

I don't agree with you. Blue_true Dec 2017 #27

We can disagree on sentencing... brooklynite Dec 2017 #39

You could be right, I don't know the teens. Blue_true Dec 2017 #94

Me too nt d_r Dec 2017 #79

What percentage of the population do you believe that about? mythology Dec 2017 #53

Because there's no objective data to support your premise LanternWaste Dec 2017 #43

Hmm. Iggo Dec 2017 #45

More and more I'm leaning this way. I had a predominate psychiatrist friend once that said RKP5637 Dec 2017 #51

For the most part I think you are correct Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #90

This. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #34

Whatever happened to going fishing, playing stickball, going to a movie? secondwind Dec 2017 #12

None of these make you famous on Instagram. Igel Dec 2017 #32

Gone to the same place anything decent and good has gone. Orange Free State Dec 2017 #86

I don't understand what the entertainment is here Skittles Dec 2017 #16

The same entertainment Codeine Dec 2017 #23

Read my post of the rock throwing. Blue_true Dec 2017 #28

It's a rush. Iggo Dec 2017 #47

is it a male thing? Skittles Dec 2017 #58

I don't remember any girls around when we were doing shit like that. Iggo Dec 2017 #64

Its not the same. Orange Free State Dec 2017 #85

I certainly did not know that it wouldn't kill someone. Iggo Dec 2017 #93

I stand corrected then Orange Free State Dec 2017 #95

Me either. cwydro Dec 2017 #66

I presume they're going after Murder 2. maxsolomon Dec 2017 #17

It was pre-meditated IronLionZion Dec 2017 #26

My question is WHY. Why does this happen over and over? maxsolomon Dec 2017 #36

If it made sense to you, I would be very concerned IronLionZion Dec 2017 #38

Yeah, but I did bad stuff as a kid, too, and I'm not a Psychopath maxsolomon Dec 2017 #67

And if one of the kids suggested tossing sandbags? IronLionZion Dec 2017 #68

teens are not reasonable people. maxsolomon Dec 2017 #69

More than likely theyll just be angry RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #55

What are the stiffest penalties for trying... Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #37

Life sentence DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2017 #50

it's hard Skittles Dec 2017 #62

To be served in juvenile until they become legal adults? Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #71

Up to the judge, and how the prosecutor presents it. DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2017 #75

More info. Sounds like 2nd degree murder charges IronLionZion Dec 2017 #41

2nd Time Teens have Dond this in last 6 Months.. Stuart G Dec 2017 #49

No going easy on them Calculating Dec 2017 #52

All it takes is one sociopath in a group of kids and something like this happens. haele Dec 2017 #56

Right...Wrong. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #57

The victim, Marquis Byrd, had two year old child RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #59

Have a trial, if found guilty oneshooter Dec 2017 #70

I think you misplaced a homonym. I think you meant to say "do" the time. StevieM Dec 2017 #78

Parents can be held liable for the actions of thier children till a certain age. oneshooter Dec 2017 #83

Good. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #73

Parents should bear some responsibility for negligence. Not sure what, but some. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #74

I think a blended sentence might be appropriate MichMan Dec 2017 #80

They should all pay child support and college tuition, room and board for the surviving son. LuvLoogie Dec 2017 #82

Probation? Codeine Dec 2017 #92

They probably didn't think anyone would die. aikoaiko Dec 2017 #91