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100. If Dems take House, they *could* vote to impeach

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 05:18 PM

Dec 2017

The Senate is a longshot and even if we win it by a bare majority, I doubt that there will be enough votes to convict, even among Democrats. For Trump to be removed from office, a good number of Republicans will have to be persuaded to vote to do so by incontrovertible evidence of serious wrongdoing. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. Many Republicans seem to be hitching their anchor to him and who knows how tied up in the Russia investigation some of them may be, so they will be fighting for their own preservation as much as Trump's. Hopefully, at the bare minimum, Democrats will put a screeching halt to the Trump/GOP agenda in Congress for the last half of Trump's Presidency and we make him a single-term President in 2020.

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Can we get enough votes to Remove Trump in 2018? [View all] Casprings Dec 2017 OP

We can't expect it to be a cake walk and need... imanamerican63 Dec 2017 #1

No. The big thing is that 2018 could bring GOP policy to a halt Casprings Dec 2017 #6

We won't get rid of him unless the GOP decides he needs to go...end of story. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #92

Pipe dream unless mueller finds a smoking gun onenote Dec 2017 #2

Not that we shouldnt do it and try.. Casprings Dec 2017 #4

The Mueller investigation is compromised. Trump's base will never accept any smoking gun... EL34x4 Dec 2017 #26

A lot will depend on the general public in 2020. NT Casprings Dec 2017 #32

Kirsten Gillibrand will lead the charge. Right? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #3

She would be a very likely removal vote. NTo Casprings Dec 2017 #5

One can only hope she is anxious to get good Dems into the Senate too. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #8

Likely democratic women or men who dont touch women without asking. Casprings Dec 2017 #9

You have a compatriot. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #12

Good.. maybe we will start a sub-group Casprings Dec 2017 #24

Maybe you can get together for tea. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #25

More like cabbage and vodka. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #34

Samovar. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #39

If someone disagrees with me, they must be Russian Casprings Dec 2017 #42

How can a vegetable and a beverage be a personal attack? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #44

Because the cultural connection to Russia and the context the post was made. NT Casprings Dec 2017 #45

It seems like you're over thinking it. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #47

You are being deliberately obtuse NT Casprings Dec 2017 #49

Lmao! have you notices how this poster spells a lot of words wrong? Tipperary Dec 2017 #83

Yes, it's definitely a tell. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #101

Have you "noticed" that that word doesn't end in an "s"? whathehell Dec 2017 #102

Do you even read your stuff? marble falls Dec 2017 #71

More likely a twin or a doppleganger. marble falls Dec 2017 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Dec 2017 #89

I am saying the new senator from MN will likely not touch women without their consent, like the Casprings Dec 2017 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Dec 2017 #105

I am sickened by your comment...an insult to Franken who was never allowed to defend himself Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #93

I am for Harris anyway.. someone also on the right side of this issue NT Casprings Dec 2017 #95

Slime machine came for earlier this year and some on our side jumped aboard...about her time Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #103

He's just out trolling. marble falls Dec 2017 #99

Why? She just got rid of one of the best... pangaia Dec 2017 #76

One of the best thats touched women without their consent. Casprings Dec 2017 #82

LOL MoonRiver Dec 2017 #22

It's a pipe dream Lurks Often Dec 2017 #7

What, Lamar Alexander voting to impeach? sofa king Dec 2017 #46

We can, it's a question of will we. muntrv Dec 2017 #10

If we when the house, impeachment happens by 1 JAN 19 Casprings Dec 2017 #11

Professional is as professional does. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #13

It is unlikely we will be able to remove Trump unless the GOP is on board. So don't impeach without Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #94

This is becoming amusing. cwydro Dec 2017 #14

Obviously controlling the House might make impeachment more likely, the more important thing will be karynnj Dec 2017 #15

66 senators can't agree on the weather crazycatlady Dec 2017 #16

Every second he serves is unsafe for the world. Casprings Dec 2017 #17

Not a pipe dream, it's a nightmare. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #18

You dont get impeachment unless you get a GOP house. Casprings Dec 2017 #19

I made an error in my thinking. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #20

Congress can't block Pence from assuming the Presidency in case of impeachment and removal WPB_dem Dec 2017 #80

In theory, they could remove both trump and Pence at the same time Casprings Dec 2017 #81

I disagree workinclasszero Dec 2017 #74

I keep hoping the generals are smart enough to delay his launch order. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #75

We've got the best chance we could ask for for a big blue wave. Kentonio Dec 2017 #21

Trump isnt as smart as Nixon and the politics are different. Casprings Dec 2017 #23

I see your point, but I did say if Mueller had cast iron evidence. Kentonio Dec 2017 #54

We already have emails from Trump Jr Casprings Dec 2017 #56

It's clear enough for you and me of course Kentonio Dec 2017 #65

That may not be enough for 30 percent of the public Casprings Dec 2017 #67

I'm guessing 25% is the part that will never sway not matter what. Kentonio Dec 2017 #91

Doubtful with gerrymandering, "Russification" a la 2016, cyber interference, Golden Raisin Dec 2017 #27

Pipe dream. shanny Dec 2017 #28

We The People duforsure Dec 2017 #29

Those whack-a-doo wingnuts are "moderates"? HughBeaumont Dec 2017 #30

The most moderate. Its relative to the rest. Casprings Dec 2017 #31

Impeachment will be off the table. I guarantee it. lastlib Dec 2017 #33

If that's our only hope... we have no hope. Joe941 Dec 2017 #55

We need the Senate too! lastlib Dec 2017 #66

The senate is a long shot at best for 2018. Joe941 Dec 2017 #84

Based on unsupported accusations? No. brooklynite Dec 2017 #35

Might not happen whatever the evidence.. Casprings Dec 2017 #37

Depends on whether or not the evidence coming out makes them put on Depends ... L. Coyote Dec 2017 #36

In normal times, the evidence is already there. Casprings Dec 2017 #38

Probably rock Dec 2017 #40

Not true. those are not moderate republicans. rockfordfile Dec 2017 #41

What is a better list of 13 possiable GOP votes? Casprings Dec 2017 #43

Pipe dream with one big caveat bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #48

We are already past the Nixon tapes with Don Jr. and others NT Casprings Dec 2017 #50

Well then impeach Don Jr. Nixon himself was on tape as POTUS approving, bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #53

Ernst and Grassley moderate? rsdsharp Dec 2017 #51

You have to get 13 votes. If you gave a better list of likly votes please post. NT Casprings Dec 2017 #58

There isn't one. EL34x4 Dec 2017 #64

GOP is defending in a lot of places in 2020 too NT Casprings Dec 2017 #68

Seriously, Chuck Grassely a moderate. Compaired with who, Attila the Hun????? marble falls Dec 2017 #72

My Three Point Platform to regain a Majority WPB_dem Dec 2017 #52

4. In November vote for anyone or anything with D after name Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #85

Probably not. There are only 8 Republican Senate seats MineralMan Dec 2017 #57

If you win like this, its not the people up in 2018 Casprings Dec 2017 #59

Well Gillibrand took out one elected Dem so it will be harder Exultant Democracy Dec 2017 #60

He gets replaced by a dem and she runs in a special in 18 Casprings Dec 2017 #61

Counting on the voters of the state to play ball after their votes were thrown out? Exultant Democracy Dec 2017 #62

22 percent wanted him to stay Casprings Dec 2017 #63

22% is more then enough to lose a seat if its the wrong voters. Exultant Democracy Dec 2017 #86

It was a seat, we didn't have to defend. It is not a good thing. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #96

they will turn on him quick IF they find a "smoking gun" krawhitham Dec 2017 #69

Sorry to be a wet blanket fallout87 Dec 2017 #73

He really is not all that popular here. marble falls Dec 2017 #77

Texas is the type is State we will win in the coming years Casprings Dec 2017 #79

It's a big challenge. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #78

You have Capito on that list of "moderates?" Dr_Pretorius Dec 2017 #87

Its relative to the GOP caucus Casprings Dec 2017 #88

I used to live in WV Dr_Pretorius Dec 2017 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Dec 2017 #90

Not a snowballs chance in hell GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #98

If Dems take House, they *could* vote to impeach Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #100