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In reply to the discussion: Yes, Ron Paul is bad. [View all]

limpyhobbler

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34. It's not just "Obama haters" who think our drug policy is insane.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 08:34 PM
Jan 2012

I'm sure you'll find more democrats who want to reform drug policy than republicans.

Yes, Ron Paul is bad. [View all] girl gone mad Jan 2012 OP
Maybe Ron Paul is wrong about that as well? Renew Deal Jan 2012 #1
All nonviolent drug offenders should be pardoned Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #6
The "Drug War" also makes a lot of money for TheDebbieDee Jan 2012 #35
Im ALL FOR legalizing marijuana but PLEASE keep heroin and cocaine less accessible. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #97
Not to mention... ellisonz Jan 2012 #143
Nope, he's very much correct on that particular point. ixion Jan 2012 #12
Do you know how exactly Paul would effectively 'end' the war on drugs as POTUS? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #29
It is a faux 'war', so ending it is as simple as saying "It's over". ixion Jan 2012 #36
I agree with you on some points and I am just asking for realistic, rational discussion. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #40
You're mixing legislation with propaganda. ixion Jan 2012 #44
WHAT!?!? *MY* solution? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #47
Please show me where I mentioned a magic wand. ixion Jan 2012 #49
The White House and the DoJ apparently waved their "Magic Wand".... bvar22 Jan 2012 #152
This is the most important reply in this thread BobbyBoring Jan 2012 #173
He might end the federal war on drugs tishaLA Jan 2012 #84
I agree. If you follow the current logic that Paul is pushing, that is exactly what would happen. stevenleser Jan 2012 #92
The ONLY reason states are passing laws is because a) The Feds do; and b) it's profitable for ixion Jan 2012 #151
And SOME states would decriminalize Pot Growing, regulate and tax the Hemp industy, bvar22 Jan 2012 #179
the way any president who wanted to do so could RainDog Jan 2012 #81
the "war on drugs" is one of the very few things Ron Paul is right about. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #20
The Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy that Obama appointed is 'right', too. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #22
Change has to start somewhere. ixion Jan 2012 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #95
No, he's not. But that's the only thing he isn't wrong about and that's just not enough. tavalon Jan 2012 #154
Because if he says that before his second term he will lose. tridim Jan 2012 #2
Definitely, that would be horrible timing!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #4
Yep! bvar22 Jan 2012 #153
1964, pre-Faux News, pre-RW hate radio and pre-Citizen's United. tridim Jan 2012 #158
"anyone with a brain knows" that Obama did NOT have to Double Down... bvar22 Jan 2012 #159
Yep, I often wonder similar ... The damn drug war does not work, but this country remains RKP5637 Jan 2012 #3
voter sentiment can and does change RainDog Jan 2012 #82
They are such an evil force in this country, religious right. I'm not a religious person, but RKP5637 Jan 2012 #87
it's hucksterism RainDog Jan 2012 #96
Exactly the right word!!! And not only a buck, but dominance and control of RKP5637 Jan 2012 #100
sad to say RainDog Jan 2012 #113
Maybe because ending the drug war is not something POTUS can even do. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #5
Ssssh? Don't ProSense Jan 2012 #10
That's funny, because it was a POTUS (Nixon and then Reagan) who started it. ixion Jan 2012 #15
I agree that it should/could be reigned in. Current Director of the Office of National Drug Control PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #21
And not just Congress, but every state's legislature treestar Jan 2012 #27
Oh, right... then there's that. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #31
Because ProSense Jan 2012 #7
care to elaborate? as always, you do not make any sense whatsoever inna Jan 2012 #11
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #13
lol, love the reply!! inna Jan 2012 #19
par for the course. n/t Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #16
Anyone who doesn't favor the drug war is insane by definition? cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #14
Actually ProSense Jan 2012 #17
Obama has to support the war on drugs because if he doesn't then the republicans might accuse him of limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #8
Besides, supporting the war on drugs is "bipartisan." nt hay rick Jan 2012 #24
Because he wants to get re-elected. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #9
Because the 1% rarely get busted on drug charges MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #18
guess Paul uses bait he knows will work. Whisp Jan 2012 #23
It's not just "Obama haters" who think our drug policy is insane. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #34
no disagreement from me that drug policy is all wrong. Whisp Jan 2012 #37
hahaha, you're right that's true limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #41
He's also talking out of his ass cuz he couldn't do SHIT as POTUS to end the war on drugs. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #42
"Soft on Drugs" JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #52
Well, since he's been against the Drug War going back eons, I wouldn't worry that he's 'out to get sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #68
you misunderstand Whisp Jan 2012 #76
Ron Paul wouldn't be against it because it's racist or wrong treestar Jan 2012 #25
Actually he has said it's racist and wrong. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #48
that just shows how crazy he is treestar Jan 2012 #57
Are you in favor of the Drug War? n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #69
You're misconstruing his statements. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #83
you misunderstand - those who used opium were from China RainDog Jan 2012 #85
But why should it remain legal then? treestar Jan 2012 #157
two different issues RainDog Jan 2012 #160
Really, you think the racist, Ron Paul, is 'against' the WOD because it's racist? Spazito Jan 2012 #26
That legitimizes or excuses persecuting the war on drugs how? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #45
If it "doesn't fucking matter what Paul thinks and why".... Spazito Jan 2012 #51
allow me to explain RainDog Jan 2012 #86
One cannot put forward the supposition... Spazito Jan 2012 #104
This board has been inundated with anti Ron Paul threads RainDog Jan 2012 #115
So, if I am understanding you correctly, the frustration lies not... Spazito Jan 2012 #124
if you don't like the OP, you can ignore it RainDog Jan 2012 #128
I don't have a problem with the way the post was created, I have a problem with... Spazito Jan 2012 #130
yes. may democrats win majorities RainDog Jan 2012 #131
We are in FULL agreement! Spazito Jan 2012 #135
Do you support the War on Drugs? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #70
I made it quite clear in another post of mine... Spazito Jan 2012 #79
What a totally absurd post, start to finish. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #88
To say Ron Paul, a racist, is against the WOD because it is racist.... Spazito Jan 2012 #98
The only reason Ron Paul is being 'used' if you want to call it that, is because he is the only sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #136
His use of it is antithetical to what progressives believe.... Spazito Jan 2012 #140
Because he is smart enough to know that while it will pass in a few states marlakay Jan 2012 #28
The demographics are changing, if he was elected in 2016 he'd have been all for it. joshcryer Jan 2012 #33
Ron Paul: Civil Rights Act of 1964 'Destroyed' Privacy ProSense Jan 2012 #30
Do you support the war on drugs? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #72
you won't get a reply, most likely RainDog Jan 2012 #90
Actually I believe the intention is to get as many people Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #116
could be RainDog Jan 2012 #117
You were right. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #148
I'm sure he does, however, Obama has spent much of his political career campaigning. joshcryer Jan 2012 #32
What exactly is Paul's plan to end the war on drugs as POTUS? PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #38
Yes, this should be Obama's top priority!!!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #39
Look at the upside to Obama supporting drug legalization from the Oval Office. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #53
Straw man. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #139
Why the fuck would you believe Ron Paul? DevonRex Jan 2012 #43
One does not have to believe him to push Democrats in this area. If the old crazy bigot TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #58
Ron Paul's supporters are the best argument against the legalization of marijuana Galraedia Jan 2012 #46
+1 JoePhilly Jan 2012 #55
But supporting Endless War is better somehow? ixion Jan 2012 #56
Pfft please. Galraedia Jan 2012 #59
You didn't answer my question... and Pfft is not a word. ixion Jan 2012 #61
The NDAA is passed every year Galraedia Jan 2012 #64
It's a given that the rethugs are to blame. ixion Jan 2012 #73
There were too many yays and not enough nays. Galraedia Jan 2012 #80
There are people on the left who are against war abelenkpe Jan 2012 #60
You think Ron Paul doesn't support endless war? joshcryer Jan 2012 #62
A banana republic is not the endless war of empire. ixion Jan 2012 #63
It's far worse. Empires fall, banana republics live on for generations. joshcryer Jan 2012 #65
banana republics don't bomb other sovereign nations on a trumped up pretext. ixion Jan 2012 #74
I'd rather we have neither banana republics or empires, personally. joshcryer Jan 2012 #77
on that we agree. ixion Jan 2012 #78
so how do you describe the other political majorities in this nation RainDog Jan 2012 #94
Do liberals, Democrats, moderates and independents put cannabis before country? Galraedia Jan 2012 #103
I'm not defending Ron Paul RainDog Jan 2012 #112
"Put marijuana first" _ed_ Jan 2012 #155
yes, I just ignored the "put cannabis before country" bullshit RainDog Jan 2012 #165
You just won the thread. Too bad it's so pointless and dumb Number23 Jan 2012 #176
Using a third rate puke candidate's meme to bash a Democratic President. Patriot 76 Jan 2012 #54
In what way was the post bashing a Democratic President? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #91
Because he thinks the only thing the government should ban is abortion. He doesn't pnwmom Jan 2012 #66
Politics. mmonk Jan 2012 #67
Nail Meet Hammer fascisthunter Jan 2012 #71
As a Libertarian Ron Paul MUST be against the War on Drugs jmowreader Jan 2012 #75
Fuck Ron Paul! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #89
No thanks. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #93
Ohhhhhh what a gross thought! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #101
How about: FUCK, RON PAUL! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #105
Yep, now the caps work better! lol RKP5637 Jan 2012 #106
The comma makes it a completely different sentence. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #107
Oops, I missed the comma! That works!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #108
This should work better: FUUUUCK, RON PAUL! *sigh* FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #109
PS: I just read you sig. line, man does that ever make sense!!! RKP5637 Jan 2012 #110
Obama only pretends to be like Ron Paul when he needs to get elected Herlong Jan 2012 #99
When was that? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #102
I'm with you. I don't recall President Obama trying to be like Ron Paul EVER. stevenleser Jan 2012 #118
I don't recall Obama mzmolly Jan 2012 #171
OH, For Hevens Sake. Kokonoe Jan 2012 #111
The only candidate raising certain uncomfortable issues Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #114
Obama is not for permanent war. I have no idea why anyone would think he is. He just ended one AND stevenleser Jan 2012 #119
what's the exit strategy for the War on Drugs? RainDog Jan 2012 #120
That was one of the things they were talking about, they were also talking about Iraq and Afghanista stevenleser Jan 2012 #123
so, what's the exit strategy? RainDog Jan 2012 #125
It's not one of my top issues and certainly not for POTUS candidates stevenleser Jan 2012 #127
exactly. you can't get elected as POTUS if you don't support failed drug policy RainDog Jan 2012 #129
Sure I can bring it back on the states stevenleser Jan 2012 #132
really? RainDog Jan 2012 #134
Sure they would. They would build more corporately funded prisons where slave labor is done stevenleser Jan 2012 #137
the south already has the harshest laws overall RainDog Jan 2012 #141
Simply Untrue. bvar22 Jan 2012 #156
we were talking about state vs fed law RainDog Jan 2012 #161
btw, you don't have to take my word for it RainDog Jan 2012 #162
And intelligent, educated, "multi-cultural" people who are looking for: bvar22 Jan 2012 #164
most young people do not take jobs in the woods RainDog Jan 2012 #168
Peace Out. bvar22 Jan 2012 #169
We haven't left Iraq. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #121
We've left Iraq. A large embassy doesnt qualify as a war. Nice try though. Next? nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #122
Largest embassy on the planet. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #126
I gave this a rec. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #133
Best nutshell of this "issue" yet. DirkGently Jan 2012 #138
What makes you think that Obama does not believe the drug war is racist and wrong? joshcryer Jan 2012 #142
Of course he has by his actions. He's busting medical, that says it all and there is no TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #144
I just recall his responses about it during the campaign and he seemed really, excruciatingly... joshcryer Jan 2012 #145
I really don't care about his personal thoughts but his policies and appointments TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #146
Anyone could've predicted a staunchly moderate post-partisan would've made those appointments. joshcryer Jan 2012 #147
Doesn't Ron Paul think it's ok for Businesses to discriminate against people based on Race JI7 Jan 2012 #149
Here is why OKNancy Jan 2012 #150
...because not everyone agrees that drugs mzmolly Jan 2012 #163
you may have an opinion about whether racism is part of the drug war RainDog Jan 2012 #166
Classism mzmolly Jan 2012 #170
not according to arrest and conviction stats RainDog Jan 2012 #172
Unfortunately, more people of color live in poverty, mzmolly Jan 2012 #175
from the last stats I saw, 800,000 were arrested in 2007 for simple POSSESSION RainDog Jan 2012 #178
Yeah I find it odd that someone who I'm pretty sure is racist, has admitted racism is the driving Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #167
Ron Paul is a racist...I sincerely believe he finds the drug war racist against whites. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #174
Well at least he and the President agree that marriage equality is all nasty and wrong Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #177
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