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Don't know who is winning the messaging war but I find the suggestion here we're losing disturbing. [View all]

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Don't know who is winning the messaging war but I find the suggestion here we're losing disturbing. [View all]	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	OP
Wrong Message	Prue	Jan 2018	#1
Your "struggle with the Democrats?"	MineralMan	Jan 2018	#3
I'm an American first	Prue	Jan 2018	#4
Just as I thought.	MineralMan	Jan 2018	#6
This is disappointing	Prue	Jan 2018	#7
There are plenty of thoughtful contributions here	MineralMan	Jan 2018	#10
Yeah - how's that working out	Prue	Jan 2018	#11
Ask again in November.	MineralMan	Jan 2018	#13
You're the big tent democrat we need so much.	rgbecker	Jan 2018	#54
You've been here long enough to know that MM is DU's biggest GOTV fan, with 50 years experience	Hekate	Jan 2018	#134
He Wont Be around	MFM008	Jan 2018	#22
it is working out pretty well...consider the Wisconsin seat that was held fo 17 years...and is now a	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#65
For someone who just joined and to make an statement like you did, and ...	SWBTATTReg	Jan 2018	#72
you've been here 6 months and want to lecture the new members?	DrDan	Jan 2018	#94
I'm a girl	Prue	Jan 2018	#96
well - I offer some apologies for your welcome - it was unfair	DrDan	Jan 2018	#97
fixed - sorry - should have been more careful	DrDan	Jan 2018	#98
I'm not a big fan of purity tests or jumping on low count posters.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	#109
I don't think you know Mineral man very well.	pangaia	Jan 2018	#104
and exactly what difference does that make - it was inconsiderate	DrDan	Jan 2018	#110
I'm sure they don't know anything about the Free Republic incident for instance.	Kentonio	Jan 2018	#136
This is kind of funny considering the lectures I have noticed you enjoy posting.	Tipperary	Jan 2018	#174
Thoughtful DUers don't need right-wing misinformation, Prue,	Hortensis	Jan 2018	#18
Huh?	Prue	Jan 2018	#28
Curious	Me.	Jan 2018	#49
Okay	Prue	Jan 2018	#50
Pehaps You've Missed The Campaign Of Disinformation That Has Gone On Recently	Me.	Jan 2018	#51
I came here in good faith	Prue	Jan 2018	#59
You Say You Came In Good Faith	Me.	Jan 2018	#63
Sure if I'm a child	Prue	Jan 2018	#67
The Hilarious Thing About Your POsts	Me.	Jan 2018	#69
Why not read more about what Democrats believe in?	Hortensis	Jan 2018	#82
Welcome to DU. Stick around a while, it is a good site	emulatorloo	Jan 2018	#101
I agree stick around	bdamomma	Jan 2018	#126
Meh	Egnever	Jan 2018	#131
Welcome to du. Newbies get grilled and a cost watch because too often they are	uppityperson	Jan 2018	#70
You are either a Democrat or you are not...not too much ...blah blah. We have those in this party	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#66
"Concern trolling" isn't a hahahaha shrug.	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#116
Duly Noted	Prue	Jan 2018	#118
Cheerleader Camp vs Focus Group	PdxSean	Jan 2018	#160
It's not an insult. You just took a wrong turn.	Aristus	Jan 2018	#39
I am so confused.....	Prue	Jan 2018	#43
I want to pop in and say that I think you've been very careful with your words	femmedem	Jan 2018	#57
BECAUSE	RandomAccess	Jan 2018	#68
No Thanks	Prue	Jan 2018	#71
Well I'm sorry to hear that BECAUSE	RandomAccess	Jan 2018	#74
I second this, and hate the newbie bashing that happens too often	uppityperson	Jan 2018	#78
Well if you can't handle a bit of push back	treestar	Jan 2018	#80
Im Sorry	RobinA	Jan 2018	#88
Youve upset a couple people. Not a big deal. Stick around for a while	emulatorloo	Jan 2018	#102
IMHO, in order to defeat Trump we need both the center right and the center left on out.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	#112
I agree with this. SO MUCH!	True Dough	Jan 2018	#177
Why do you think you need to have an adminstrator "delete your account?"	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#120
Good advice, he will not take. The poster's here to stir things up, he's "a registered Independent".	marble falls	Jan 2018	#142
Or	kcr	Jan 2018	#107
Perhaps you are unclear on what a site named "Democratic Underground" is about	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#121
You can click "alert abuse" at the bottom of any post on this site to see the list of rules....	George II	Jan 2018	#125
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2018	#148
Trump created the mess and lied repeatedly...most folks don't arrive and immediately	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#64
MineralMan is not an admin here	Kentonio	Jan 2018	#135
It is a bad look...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	#12
Terrible Optics is just the beginning	Prue	Jan 2018	#14
No one dreamed Hillary would not win and Trump would	treestar	Jan 2018	#81
Rounding them up now after they voluntarily registered...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	#87
That's true, it's that Shitler's base	treestar	Jan 2018	#90
Actually, Nate Silver tried to warn us.	PdxSean	Jan 2018	#157
Did he specifically say to campaign more in	treestar	Jan 2018	#159
So an echo chamber is what we need?	fallout87	Jan 2018	#21
Brainstorming is fine	treestar	Jan 2018	#24
This new poster has a very good point to make. The republicans ability to frame the message better	Squinch	Jan 2018	#26
Agreed!	peggysue2	Jan 2018	#44
This is what I have been trying to say, but you said it better!	Squinch	Jan 2018	#47
great post	bdamomma	Jan 2018	#128
Agreed Squinch. Welcome	zentrum	Jan 2018	#60
Not true. But how does some random message thought up by a helpful critic	treestar	Jan 2018	#83
We are talking about two different things here. You are discussing what needs to be said.	Squinch	Jan 2018	#95
I've come late to this thread	hueymahl	Jan 2018	#176
Why are you even here? We support Democrats. 'past' mistakes...sure.	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#62
Do you vote for Democrats? Because that's really what determines your	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#115
Answer	Prue	Jan 2018	#117
hahahaha.	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#119
All you need to do to deactivate your account is to stop your posting. Maybe one day you'll see...	marble falls	Jan 2018	#143
Why are they not doing it your way, then?	treestar	Jan 2018	#8
I appreciate the nomination	Prue	Jan 2018	#16
Well we can't decide for them	treestar	Jan 2018	#19
Well.....I am temporarily out of work	Prue	Jan 2018	#25
We are a tough crowd, Prue	Generic Other	Jan 2018	#30
Tough crowd indeed	Prue	Jan 2018	#36
You were not attacked. You seem to	treestar	Jan 2018	#85
Seemed like an attack to me.	Kentonio	Jan 2018	#137
You and others absolutely attacked her.	femmedem	Jan 2018	#141
I did not attack; I disagreed	treestar	Jan 2018	#149
Nothing wrong with the way you just phrased it to me.	femmedem	Jan 2018	#156
Maybe, though that is the essence of what people are saying	treestar	Jan 2018	#158
A little tact and diplomacy would go a long way	True Dough	Jan 2018	#178
Thank you so much.	femmedem	Jan 2018	#179
you are correct. Prue wasn't simply attacked.	Voltaire2	Jan 2018	#167
If this happened to me, I would certainly feel as if I was attacked and not wanted.	Fla Dem	Jan 2018	#170
hahahaha, Attack?	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#122
If you believe an idea...	tonedevil	Jan 2018	#46
Irrelevant	treestar	Jan 2018	#79
I agree, you make good points.	dottie66	Jan 2018	#9
I agree to a degree	Hav	Jan 2018	#34
Overwhelming majority of Americans want DACA.	delisen	Jan 2018	#38
And given that, how can the messaging be so bad?	treestar	Jan 2018	#84
I think so.	delisen	Jan 2018	#89
I disagree with you premise	thbobby	Jan 2018	#52
Many good Democrats	zentrum	Jan 2018	#56
I completely disagree. I don't think the 'honor' message would resonate. I think people don't	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#61
What's with the far right talking points	rockfordfile	Jan 2018	#73
2nd amendment voters are terrified of a national gun owners registery	questionseverything	Jan 2018	#77
Some members are giving you a hard time because you didn't	aikoaiko	Jan 2018	#103
Not no criticism, but it has been tiring with the Bernie fiasco	treestar	Jan 2018	#152
You use "they" and "their" a lot when talking about Democrats.	johnp3907	Jan 2018	#108
I was referring to the Leaders	Prue	Jan 2018	#111
So you think that Democratic leaders are the problem?	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#123
poor messaging, obviously (not to put words into that posters mouth)	DrDan	Jan 2018	#133
In what way? Examples, please. (nt)	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#144
examples of what - poor messaging or leader criticism?	DrDan	Jan 2018	#145
here's one example	DrDan	Jan 2018	#146
I was asking for examples of poor leadership	ehrnst	Jan 2018	#147
I don't see how the leaders did such a poor job here	treestar	Jan 2018	#153
Welcome to DU!	OhioBlue	Jan 2018	#132
In an effort to redeem myself.	Prue	Jan 2018	#163
I hope you find someplace intellectually engaging and progressive.	Voltaire2	Jan 2018	#168
I am truly sorry about the reception you received.	femmedem	Jan 2018	#171
people equate that to political correctness?	Skittles	Jan 2018	#173
I find it suspicious. I don't believe all pushing it are foolish.	Hortensis	Jan 2018	#2
Determining the winner is beyond my ken.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2018	#5
A large swath of the country believed Hillary was running a pedophile ring out of a pizza	Squinch	Jan 2018	#32
I can't even believe that this is controversial. It used to pretty much be the consensus here.	Crunchy Frog	Jan 2018	#42
I think some people are thinking we are saying that Dems are losing, which HAS been	Squinch	Jan 2018	#45
Hortensis, look at what you are saying: conservative forces are waging huge disinformation	Squinch	Jan 2018	#27
Don't know about anyone else, but I look at results.	GreenEyedLefty	Jan 2018	#15
I am one of the people saying we are losing the messaging war. That is a very different thing	Squinch	Jan 2018	#29
Exactly correct	Orrex	Jan 2018	#33
Oh, God! Don't get me started on their "pro-life" bullshit. I work with disabled children.	Squinch	Jan 2018	#35
Regarding the bumper stickers	Orrex	Jan 2018	#37
I do get that. I did the math in my head and calculated that countering their message was	Squinch	Jan 2018	#41
I have a protest sign that says, "Ted Cruz Hates Babies"	LeftInTX	Jan 2018	#175
Why is that the Democrats' fault rather than the media	treestar	Jan 2018	#86
I never said it was the Democrats' fault. It's no one's fault. It is simply a fact.	Squinch	Jan 2018	#93
People have been saying this for years	treestar	Jan 2018	#150
Oy. OK. We still win a lot of elections. Nothing can be improved. There is nothing about that	Squinch	Jan 2018	#165
How did the Dems let the Republicans get away with	treestar	Jan 2018	#166
I know I'm late to the party but I saw this today and thought I'd share....	chowder66	Jan 2018	#172
Do you remember the old	Phoenix61	Jan 2018	#17
Maybe we could encourage people to use thinking more than feelings	treestar	Jan 2018	#20
It's more a tendency of human nature	Phoenix61	Jan 2018	#23
Realistically though the vast majority of people are almost completely politically disconnected	Kentonio	Jan 2018	#139
Actually, feelings are dependable and necessary. What they are is primative.	Caliman73	Jan 2018	#169
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2018	#31
You're Talking Hate But This POst Strikes Me As Completely Negative	Me.	Jan 2018	#53
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2018	#40
There is a disturbing penchant to blame and denigrate Dems	mcar	Jan 2018	#48
Another name for concern.	Hortensis	Jan 2018	#91
Again?	Jersey Devil	Jan 2018	#55
I don't think we are losing...same old same old...a way to attack Democrats who never do anything	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#58
Do you believe that republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility? Do you believe they are the	Squinch	Jan 2018	#100
If it is not the message than it is something else. We don't have a TV station geared to our party..	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#127
This is ridiculous and childish. You are tired of other things so you are going to lash out at	Squinch	Jan 2018	#130
You posted to me. I am not lashing out period...merely stating my opinion for what is going on in	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#140
You are still missing the point entirely. This has nothing to do with fighting our elected	Squinch	Jan 2018	#164
You are right, and then the complaints about the corporate donors too	treestar	Jan 2018	#154
All the time...the corporate donors were chased off... and it has hurt us.	Demsrule86	Jan 2018	#161
I heard one of the political pundits say that "shutdown blame" seldom lingers	dawg day	Jan 2018	#75
Republicans are alway better at messaging because they have major propaganda outlets.	Kablooie	Jan 2018	#76
Everyone keeps saying this as if it is the last word. It isn't. Yes, they own the	Squinch	Jan 2018	#99
There is organized social media	treestar	Jan 2018	#155
Trump is right, the President gets blamed. Meanwhile .... some truth in politics from	L. Coyote	Jan 2018	#92
we arent losing. Its more than just Daca..its the fact they cant even come up...	samnsara	Jan 2018	#105
Everyone should have their say, it is only going to get worse	Motley13	Jan 2018	#106
Democrats need to stay on task	Turbineguy	Jan 2018	#113
Look out for comments bashing democrats for shutdown	drowefnp	Jan 2018	#114
Putin's all star repuglinazi trolls are working OT. rec, Nt	Mc Mike	Jan 2018	#124
If the "message war" is going to decide important issues we are truely lost	randr	Jan 2018	#129
What do you feel has the most effective message?	oberliner	Jan 2018	#138
propaganda is always used to keep country divided. In the end, who "compromises" first one to blink	beachbum bob	Jan 2018	#151
According to my Saturday morning coffee group......	Kilgore	Jan 2018	#162