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uppityperson

(115,674 posts)
78. I second this, and hate the newbie bashing that happens too often
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jan 2018

Critiquing the party to improve it is a good thing.

Give du another try, another thread, another forum.

Wrong Message Prue Jan 2018 #1
Your "struggle with the Democrats?" MineralMan Jan 2018 #3
I'm an American first Prue Jan 2018 #4
Just as I thought. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
This is disappointing Prue Jan 2018 #7
There are plenty of thoughtful contributions here MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
Yeah - how's that working out Prue Jan 2018 #11
Ask again in November. MineralMan Jan 2018 #13
You're the big tent democrat we need so much. rgbecker Jan 2018 #54
You've been here long enough to know that MM is DU's biggest GOTV fan, with 50 years experience Hekate Jan 2018 #134
He Wont Be around MFM008 Jan 2018 #22
it is working out pretty well...consider the Wisconsin seat that was held fo 17 years...and is now a Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #65
For someone who just joined and to make an statement like you did, and ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #72
you've been here 6 months and want to lecture the new members? DrDan Jan 2018 #94
I'm a girl Prue Jan 2018 #96
well - I offer some apologies for your welcome - it was unfair DrDan Jan 2018 #97
fixed - sorry - should have been more careful DrDan Jan 2018 #98
I'm not a big fan of purity tests or jumping on low count posters. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #109
I don't think you know Mineral man very well. pangaia Jan 2018 #104
and exactly what difference does that make - it was inconsiderate DrDan Jan 2018 #110
I'm sure they don't know anything about the Free Republic incident for instance. Kentonio Jan 2018 #136
This is kind of funny considering the lectures I have noticed you enjoy posting. Tipperary Jan 2018 #174
Thoughtful DUers don't need right-wing misinformation, Prue, Hortensis Jan 2018 #18
Huh? Prue Jan 2018 #28
Curious Me. Jan 2018 #49
Okay Prue Jan 2018 #50
Pehaps You've Missed The Campaign Of Disinformation That Has Gone On Recently Me. Jan 2018 #51
I came here in good faith Prue Jan 2018 #59
You Say You Came In Good Faith Me. Jan 2018 #63
Sure if I'm a child Prue Jan 2018 #67
The Hilarious Thing About Your POsts Me. Jan 2018 #69
Why not read more about what Democrats believe in? Hortensis Jan 2018 #82
Welcome to DU. Stick around a while, it is a good site emulatorloo Jan 2018 #101
I agree stick around bdamomma Jan 2018 #126
Meh Egnever Jan 2018 #131
Welcome to du. Newbies get grilled and a cost watch because too often they are uppityperson Jan 2018 #70
You are either a Democrat or you are not...not too much ...blah blah. We have those in this party Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #66
"Concern trolling" isn't a hahahaha shrug. ehrnst Jan 2018 #116
Duly Noted Prue Jan 2018 #118
Cheerleader Camp vs Focus Group PdxSean Jan 2018 #160
It's not an insult. You just took a wrong turn. Aristus Jan 2018 #39
I am so confused..... Prue Jan 2018 #43
I want to pop in and say that I think you've been very careful with your words femmedem Jan 2018 #57
BECAUSE RandomAccess Jan 2018 #68
No Thanks Prue Jan 2018 #71
Well I'm sorry to hear that BECAUSE RandomAccess Jan 2018 #74
I second this, and hate the newbie bashing that happens too often uppityperson Jan 2018 #78
Well if you can't handle a bit of push back treestar Jan 2018 #80
Im Sorry RobinA Jan 2018 #88
Youve upset a couple people. Not a big deal. Stick around for a while emulatorloo Jan 2018 #102
IMHO, in order to defeat Trump we need both the center right and the center left on out. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #112
I agree with this. SO MUCH! True Dough Jan 2018 #177
Why do you think you need to have an adminstrator "delete your account?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #120
Good advice, he will not take. The poster's here to stir things up, he's "a registered Independent". marble falls Jan 2018 #142
Or kcr Jan 2018 #107
Perhaps you are unclear on what a site named "Democratic Underground" is about ehrnst Jan 2018 #121
You can click "alert abuse" at the bottom of any post on this site to see the list of rules.... George II Jan 2018 #125
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #148
Trump created the mess and lied repeatedly...most folks don't arrive and immediately Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #64
MineralMan is not an admin here Kentonio Jan 2018 #135
It is a bad look... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #12
Terrible Optics is just the beginning Prue Jan 2018 #14
No one dreamed Hillary would not win and Trump would treestar Jan 2018 #81
Rounding them up now after they voluntarily registered... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #87
That's true, it's that Shitler's base treestar Jan 2018 #90
Actually, Nate Silver tried to warn us. PdxSean Jan 2018 #157
Did he specifically say to campaign more in treestar Jan 2018 #159
So an echo chamber is what we need? fallout87 Jan 2018 #21
Brainstorming is fine treestar Jan 2018 #24
This new poster has a very good point to make. The republicans ability to frame the message better Squinch Jan 2018 #26
Agreed! peggysue2 Jan 2018 #44
This is what I have been trying to say, but you said it better! Squinch Jan 2018 #47
great post bdamomma Jan 2018 #128
Agreed Squinch. Welcome zentrum Jan 2018 #60
Not true. But how does some random message thought up by a helpful critic treestar Jan 2018 #83
We are talking about two different things here. You are discussing what needs to be said. Squinch Jan 2018 #95
I've come late to this thread hueymahl Jan 2018 #176
Why are you even here? We support Democrats. 'past' mistakes...sure. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #62
Do you vote for Democrats? Because that's really what determines your ehrnst Jan 2018 #115
Answer Prue Jan 2018 #117
hahahaha. ehrnst Jan 2018 #119
All you need to do to deactivate your account is to stop your posting. Maybe one day you'll see... marble falls Jan 2018 #143
Why are they not doing it your way, then? treestar Jan 2018 #8
I appreciate the nomination Prue Jan 2018 #16
Well we can't decide for them treestar Jan 2018 #19
Well.....I am temporarily out of work Prue Jan 2018 #25
We are a tough crowd, Prue Generic Other Jan 2018 #30
Tough crowd indeed Prue Jan 2018 #36
You were not attacked. You seem to treestar Jan 2018 #85
Seemed like an attack to me. Kentonio Jan 2018 #137
You and others absolutely attacked her. femmedem Jan 2018 #141
I did not attack; I disagreed treestar Jan 2018 #149
Nothing wrong with the way you just phrased it to me. femmedem Jan 2018 #156
Maybe, though that is the essence of what people are saying treestar Jan 2018 #158
A little tact and diplomacy would go a long way True Dough Jan 2018 #178
Thank you so much. femmedem Jan 2018 #179
you are correct. Prue wasn't simply attacked. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #167
If this happened to me, I would certainly feel as if I was attacked and not wanted. Fla Dem Jan 2018 #170
hahahaha, Attack? ehrnst Jan 2018 #122
If you believe an idea... tonedevil Jan 2018 #46
Irrelevant treestar Jan 2018 #79
I agree, you make good points. dottie66 Jan 2018 #9
I agree to a degree Hav Jan 2018 #34
Overwhelming majority of Americans want DACA. delisen Jan 2018 #38
And given that, how can the messaging be so bad? treestar Jan 2018 #84
I think so. delisen Jan 2018 #89
I disagree with you premise thbobby Jan 2018 #52
Many good Democrats zentrum Jan 2018 #56
I completely disagree. I don't think the 'honor' message would resonate. I think people don't Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #61
What's with the far right talking points rockfordfile Jan 2018 #73
2nd amendment voters are terrified of a national gun owners registery questionseverything Jan 2018 #77
Some members are giving you a hard time because you didn't aikoaiko Jan 2018 #103
Not no criticism, but it has been tiring with the Bernie fiasco treestar Jan 2018 #152
You use "they" and "their" a lot when talking about Democrats. johnp3907 Jan 2018 #108
I was referring to the Leaders Prue Jan 2018 #111
So you think that Democratic leaders are the problem? ehrnst Jan 2018 #123
poor messaging, obviously (not to put words into that posters mouth) DrDan Jan 2018 #133
In what way? Examples, please. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #144
examples of what - poor messaging or leader criticism? DrDan Jan 2018 #145
here's one example DrDan Jan 2018 #146
I was asking for examples of poor leadership ehrnst Jan 2018 #147
I don't see how the leaders did such a poor job here treestar Jan 2018 #153
Welcome to DU! OhioBlue Jan 2018 #132
In an effort to redeem myself. Prue Jan 2018 #163
I hope you find someplace intellectually engaging and progressive. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #168
I am truly sorry about the reception you received. femmedem Jan 2018 #171
people equate that to political correctness? Skittles Jan 2018 #173
I find it suspicious. I don't believe all pushing it are foolish. Hortensis Jan 2018 #2
Determining the winner is beyond my ken. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #5
A large swath of the country believed Hillary was running a pedophile ring out of a pizza Squinch Jan 2018 #32
I can't even believe that this is controversial. It used to pretty much be the consensus here. Crunchy Frog Jan 2018 #42
I think some people are thinking we are saying that Dems are losing, which HAS been Squinch Jan 2018 #45
Hortensis, look at what you are saying: conservative forces are waging huge disinformation Squinch Jan 2018 #27
Don't know about anyone else, but I look at results. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #15
I am one of the people saying we are losing the messaging war. That is a very different thing Squinch Jan 2018 #29
Exactly correct Orrex Jan 2018 #33
Oh, God! Don't get me started on their "pro-life" bullshit. I work with disabled children. Squinch Jan 2018 #35
Regarding the bumper stickers Orrex Jan 2018 #37
I do get that. I did the math in my head and calculated that countering their message was Squinch Jan 2018 #41
I have a protest sign that says, "Ted Cruz Hates Babies" LeftInTX Jan 2018 #175
Why is that the Democrats' fault rather than the media treestar Jan 2018 #86
I never said it was the Democrats' fault. It's no one's fault. It is simply a fact. Squinch Jan 2018 #93
People have been saying this for years treestar Jan 2018 #150
Oy. OK. We still win a lot of elections. Nothing can be improved. There is nothing about that Squinch Jan 2018 #165
How did the Dems let the Republicans get away with treestar Jan 2018 #166
I know I'm late to the party but I saw this today and thought I'd share.... chowder66 Jan 2018 #172
Do you remember the old Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #17
Maybe we could encourage people to use thinking more than feelings treestar Jan 2018 #20
It's more a tendency of human nature Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #23
Realistically though the vast majority of people are almost completely politically disconnected Kentonio Jan 2018 #139
Actually, feelings are dependable and necessary. What they are is primative. Caliman73 Jan 2018 #169
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #31
You're Talking Hate But This POst Strikes Me As Completely Negative Me. Jan 2018 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #40
There is a disturbing penchant to blame and denigrate Dems mcar Jan 2018 #48
Another name for concern. Hortensis Jan 2018 #91
Again? Jersey Devil Jan 2018 #55
I don't think we are losing...same old same old...a way to attack Democrats who never do anything Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #58
Do you believe that republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility? Do you believe they are the Squinch Jan 2018 #100
If it is not the message than it is something else. We don't have a TV station geared to our party.. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #127
This is ridiculous and childish. You are tired of other things so you are going to lash out at Squinch Jan 2018 #130
You posted to me. I am not lashing out period...merely stating my opinion for what is going on in Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #140
You are still missing the point entirely. This has nothing to do with fighting our elected Squinch Jan 2018 #164
You are right, and then the complaints about the corporate donors too treestar Jan 2018 #154
All the time...the corporate donors were chased off... and it has hurt us. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #161
I heard one of the political pundits say that "shutdown blame" seldom lingers dawg day Jan 2018 #75
Republicans are alway better at messaging because they have major propaganda outlets. Kablooie Jan 2018 #76
Everyone keeps saying this as if it is the last word. It isn't. Yes, they own the Squinch Jan 2018 #99
There is organized social media treestar Jan 2018 #155
Trump is right, the President gets blamed. Meanwhile .... some truth in politics from L. Coyote Jan 2018 #92
we arent losing. Its more than just Daca..its the fact they cant even come up... samnsara Jan 2018 #105
Everyone should have their say, it is only going to get worse Motley13 Jan 2018 #106
Democrats need to stay on task Turbineguy Jan 2018 #113
Look out for comments bashing democrats for shutdown drowefnp Jan 2018 #114
Putin's all star repuglinazi trolls are working OT. rec, Nt Mc Mike Jan 2018 #124
If the "message war" is going to decide important issues we are truely lost randr Jan 2018 #129
What do you feel has the most effective message? oberliner Jan 2018 #138
propaganda is always used to keep country divided. In the end, who "compromises" first one to blink beachbum bob Jan 2018 #151
According to my Saturday morning coffee group...... Kilgore Jan 2018 #162
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