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75. Leave it to Krugman for keeping it Real..

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Mon Jan 22, 2018, 09:19 PM

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We got the best deal possible.CHIP for 6 years/ DACA Vote in a couple of weeks. [View all] Demsrule86 Jan 2018 OP

What guarantee do we have that there will actually be a DACA vote? oberliner Jan 2018 #1

None, there will never be a DACA vote until we take back the senate. beaglelover Jan 2018 #2

And if there isn't, there won't be a vote for the budget in three weeks. brooklynite Jan 2018 #3

And then the RepubliCONs will attempt to pin the shutdown on the Democrats SFnomad Jan 2018 #8

The American people have done a good job on placing the blame where it belongs. FSogol Jan 2018 #26

We'll see, won't we. My bet is Dems cave in 3 weeks too. beaglelover Jan 2018 #11

Nah, we'll be in an even stronger position in 3 weeks if there is no DACA deal. brush Jan 2018 #27

Sounds like you have somewhere between little and no respect for the dems. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #51

That would be an untrue statement. beaglelover Jan 2018 #66

"We saved nine million kids" "NOT GOOD ENOUGH" shenmue Jan 2018 #77

Shhh....reasonable political plays arent allowed here tonight! Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #76

We don't have a guarantee...but this was the best we could do...the GOP is in charge of everything.. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #7

This deal is until Feb 8. If there is no DACA vote, the Government shuts down again. (nt) apnu Jan 2018 #13

What if the DACA bill is awful and Democrats can't vote for it? oberliner Jan 2018 #16

I dunno, ask Schumer. (nt) apnu Jan 2018 #18

We are no worse off than now. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #20

It is easier to criticize and offer NO alternatives...seems that way, eh Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #52

Yes I am. I lose patience with the Democrats must do this or that...they seem to forget that Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #55

Simple. Another shut down and we are in an even stronger position as the repugs will be... brush Jan 2018 #29

Then they go with: "Once again the Dems are shutting down the gov't for illegal immigrants" oberliner Jan 2018 #36

No need to wonder. #trumpshutdown is trending way more than #Schumershutdown... brush Jan 2018 #38

Twitter is kind of its own separate thing oberliner Jan 2018 #43

That's not america: that's twitter. Proves that twitter blames lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #50

And do you have your finger on the pulse of America? I find twitter and other social media Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #56

Newflash: Welcome to the 21st century. Social media reflects America as much as traditional media. brush Jan 2018 #61

Russian bots skew the count intentionally. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #62

It's a part of it, as is constant repug lying on traditional media. brush Jan 2018 #63

And the Dems counter with "The GOP lied to us." apnu Jan 2018 #41

Yes they will. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #57

And, don't forget: if government shuts down, Mitch's "promise" to call a DACA vote evaporates. nt Atticus Jan 2018 #35

yep i agree samnsara Jan 2018 #4

I am amazed we got this much. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #10

I'm sure its the best they could do workinclasszero Jan 2018 #5

Democrats have to face facts. We are limited...I think our leaders have behaved heroically and Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #19

I totally agree workinclasszero Jan 2018 #23

We wouldn't have to deal with any of this if people didn't hold their noses Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #53

DACA pamdb Jan 2018 #6

I don't doubt that. But again what should we do. Leave the government shut down until Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #15

There was no guarantee for a DACA vote atreides1 Jan 2018 #9

I know what he said...and what would you have the Dems...do let the GOP go around Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #14

Be honest atreides1 Jan 2018 #24

No. Even if McConnell is telling the truth...we have a problem with the House. But we had no choice. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #28

Agreed. It sucks, but what more could a neutered party do? CrispyQ Jan 2018 #12

There is little we can do. I am sick about this...we should start considering how we can personally Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #17

Not to sound contrarian, but... Orrex Jan 2018 #21

Never mind--found it. Orrex Jan 2018 #25

to be honest, it's the best we could get at this point, and a bit better than I expected. Turn CO Blue Jan 2018 #22

I agree. I hope we can get more...but we are not in power. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #30

It's not the best resolution but I agree with you mcar Jan 2018 #31

That sums it up nicely. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #32

Uh-huh, and McConnell, Ryan and especially Trump are men of integrity. nt Atticus Jan 2018 #33

That is nonsense. nt Atticus Jan 2018 #34

What is nonsense? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #39

"best deal possible". Maybe the best deal possible TODAY, but they "gave" us what Atticus Jan 2018 #42

We have Chip and another chance to revisit DACA... that is great...I don't know what will happen. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #54

Should never ? Should never? Yeah, you are right, it should never have been withheld but it was, Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #58

Very solid considering the numbers. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #37

I agree. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #45

How come all the 2020 democrats are voting against it then? Sharpshooter007 Jan 2018 #40

They are running in a primary so they were allowed not to vote for it...that is politics. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #47

Oh and welcome to DU... no worries. It is my opinion Democrats would crawl through broken glass Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #48

They should have renewed CHIP in September Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2018 #44

I know... already you hear the rumblings of if this then...they don't come out and say so. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #46

There won't be a DACA vote Bettie Jan 2018 #49

Maybe not but if the GOP never intended to let that happen...shutting down the government which Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #60

The big picture is what's important Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #59

You are right. It is so hard to wait. And it is tough with the gerrymander. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #69

From Ezra Klein Gothmog Jan 2018 #64

Thanks for the tweet...I agree and I had not seen that. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #68

One party just got CHIP re-funded. Cha Jan 2018 #65

Thank you Cha...it is not all we want but it is something. We did our best I think. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #67

It's just living in reality.. and thank goodness that's not so bad.. Cha Jan 2018 #71

I remain hopeful that the GOP won't want the news showing Dreamers being ripped from their homes Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #72

Absolutely! Cha Jan 2018 #74

From Prof. Krugman Gothmog Jan 2018 #70

I saw this somewhere...he is right. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #73

Leave it to Krugman for keeping it Real.. Cha Jan 2018 #75

good move, CHIP will help us to get votes AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #78

At this point it no longer matters. old guy Jan 2018 #79