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Proud Liberal Dem

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8. The "Messaging" thing really irks me
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jan 2018

Republicans ALWAYS have it easier in terms of their "messaging", because their voters- and a good chunk of the rest of the public- are less informed about politics than us, spend less time than us keeping up with what is actually going on unless it immediately affects us and thus makes it easier for Republicans to lie to them, and thus seem to be more responsive to Republican messaging (i.e. catchphrases) than Democratic messaging (which tends to be less succint and nuanced- IOW "reality&quot . That all being said, polls indicate that the public is generally favorable towards Democrats in terms of support for our policies, so, at least in the abstract, our messaging seems to be getting through to most people. The bigger problem as I see it is that support for Democratic policies doesn't always translate into votes for Democratic candidates when the time comes. They don't always translate into movements. Why is that? I think that most Democrats and Democratic-leaning people aren't as vocal and obnoxious as Republicans and don't vote as reliably as Republicans. Why that is and what we can do to energize and active people to GOTV is the challenge that the Democratic Party needs to focus on, including helping removing barriers to people voting, especially those inclined to vote for us.

I just put "in power" after Democrats because that's usually what people mean... TCJ70 Jan 2018 #1
I try not to put words in people's posts other than the ones they used. MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #3
Yah, OK... MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
Well. yeah, but... the problem with the Democrats is kydo Jan 2018 #5
I hadn't actually quantified it, but you may be right. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
It usually follows a pattern kcr Jan 2018 #7
The "Messaging" thing really irks me Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #8
Very true. kcr Jan 2018 #9
Right Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #11
The entire concept of "framing" and "messaging" implies MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #13
I disagree. Framing does not mean lying. Qutzupalotl Jan 2018 #18
I said it implies lies and half-truths. I didn't say it "means" that. MineralMan Jan 2018 #19
Framing doesnt even imply lies or half-truths. Qutzupalotl Jan 2018 #20
The problem is the soft-peddling of the GOP lies as "messaging" kcr Jan 2018 #27
One of the few times I disagree with you, MM peggysue2 Jan 2018 #21
exactly - thanks for explaining that well - framing does NOT imply lying or DrDan Jan 2018 #22
In the context of politics, I don't blame anyone for any growing distrust in this area kcr Jan 2018 #23
Agreed. Caliman73 Jan 2018 #24
Sure, but reading the entire post she gave, created an entirely different context in my mind. Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #12
she was DOA because of (1) her low post count and (2) she was a registered-indie who voted Dem DrDan Jan 2018 #14
Once again you hit the nail on the head. cwydro Jan 2018 #17
Nicely stated. nt. Quixote1818 Jan 2018 #26
I read the entire post. I always read the entire post. MineralMan Jan 2018 #15
Maybe you could explain how the rest of the post changed the context then? kcr Jan 2018 #16
I would have to agree there, in most part. Caliman73 Jan 2018 #25
That is a big turnoff for me also Gothmog Jan 2018 #28
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