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In reply to the discussion: The silence left by Franken leaving is deafening. [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)178. Again very interesting, thanks. Only a few zealous fringies here
don't know that Franken is a friend to women and women's rights. The vast majority of us know that and would vastly have preferred to fight for him -- at least while we didn't have to accept the consequences and lose him anyway.
Wish you could share the rest of your source's thoughts.
Just one thing I'd question: "the onus of proof is on the accuser, not the defendant. THIS after 25 years of successful "the allegation is the crime" against Hillary? DU itself is full of people whose viewpoints are hopelessly warped by years of allegations, even though their investigations always came up empty.
No, in politics there is no onus of proof on the accuser. The accusation is the missile.
And that's really the point.
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Watching pundits bicker on cable tv news-talk shows is not a requirment of keeping up with things &
FSogol
Jan 2018
#12
I wouldn't call the Senate hearing "bickering" on cable tv news-talk shows.
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#14
You know newspapers still cover what is going on in this country. You overvalve cable "news."
FSogol
Jan 2018
#16
If this is the study to which you are referring, I think you are mis-stating the key findings.
spooky3
Jan 2018
#168
I didn't need to see his "study" to know that FOX was dragging down the curve ;-)
BamaRefugee
Jan 2018
#174
And as a result of that, I've had the chance to sit down with Franken personally
brooklynite
Jan 2018
#46
divisive with an election less than a year away and pointless unless someone wants Democrats to lose
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#93
I don't have 'hackles' just tired of seeing Franken used in order to divide us...not saying you...
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#103
He is one of the best we had. To blow him off because you don't know of him is lame
wasupaloopa
Jan 2018
#98
Franken should move to one of the states held by a Repugnant Governor and run
cstanleytech
Jan 2018
#10
This will haunt the Democratic Party in at least the next two election cycles
BlueAZure
Jan 2018
#22
DFW, I believe you. I believe you because this is what I thought from the start...
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#74
DFW, thank you very much for posting this. I hope the insider doesn't object to your
spooky3
Jan 2018
#90
I don't think I revealed anything most people on DU didn't already suspect was true
DFW
Jan 2018
#136
Thank you for the additional info. I did not mean in any way to disparage your
spooky3
Jan 2018
#167
In January 2015, none other than Howard Dean was giving Gillibrand the same positive scrutiny
DFW
Jan 2018
#169
No it won't despite the best efforts of GOP types...and those who ahem support them.
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#88
The glaring contradiction in Gillibrand's "Franken Spiel" was that Franken was denied a hearing
stuffmatters
Jan 2018
#132
you don't need to join his fan club; just respect the fact that others here have good reason
spooky3
Jan 2018
#105
I just have a hard time respecting people who want another Democrat's head on a stick
crazycatlady
Jan 2018
#107
The allegations were not credible for a variety of reasons, but I did not see people on this thread
spooky3
Jan 2018
#108
There are many DUers who dismissed the accusers because they won't give their name
crazycatlady
Jan 2018
#109
I repeat: What behavior? Do you have definitive information and proof of any
Honeycombe8
Feb 2018
#192
Yeah..just like Clinton gave back Weinstein donations, but the Repubs aren't giving back Wynn's.
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#84
Yes. Things have gotten worse lately. I'm disappointed in the Dem responses...
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#94
No, I feel these sort of posts (no offence intended) are divisive and take the focus off an election
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#85
I feel what is done is done...and no good can come from this . Don't vote for her in a 20
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#145
Well, We Still Have The Polite, "Do Not Disrupt SOTU" Democrats Like Pelosi
SoCalMusicLover
Jan 2018
#111
I'm not going to split hairs. These people all piled on and all of them have ambitions.
PatrickforO
Jan 2018
#184
I thought you meant the silence of the steady stream of accusations.
Hong Kong Cavalier
Jan 2018
#129
And we can thank Kristen Gillibrand for doing Republicans' dirty work for them n/t
markpkessinger
Jan 2018
#137