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Ilsa

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13. Powerful response.

Wed Feb 7, 2018, 05:25 PM

Feb 2018

I ache for you just reading it.

An old friend who was Navy felt the same about her commanding officer (he may have been a captain. She was a LtCmdr.) at the Pentagon. She used to work out, get fighting pointers, and keep her upper body strength up in case his physical abuse ever got beyond physically pushing (into furniture), which he did once. She managed to get out with a good retirement deal.

I haven't talked to her in years. I hope she hates trump.

On edit: many here have stated something similar to what I'm about to type: I had given Kelly the benefit of the doubt and tremendous respect because of his career and Gold Star family status. I'll always feel bad for him as a parent, but for me, he has ruined his career reputation by allying himself with this narcissistic asshole with dictatorial ambitions. I have no respect for him any more and feel about him much the same way as I feel about trump - I despise them and wish they would disappear off the planet.

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"Beyond disbelief": Kelly's Defense of Rob Porter Roils the West Wing - Gabriel Sherman [View all] DonViejo Feb 2018 OP

Kelly's the kind of misogynist who believes "women are sacred" and how you treat'em enough Feb 2018 #1

If women are sacred doesn't that mean you shouldn't beat them? marylandblue Feb 2018 #3

When some man says we are "sacred" it tells me that actual normal women can never measure up Hekate Feb 2018 #11

Well your name is Hekate ... marylandblue Feb 2018 #14

This combination of "women are sacred" and men can do whatever they want to them enough Feb 2018 #15

It might just be me, but... erinlough Feb 2018 #7

It's a common pathology of patriarchal systems to combine both these ideas in one enough Feb 2018 #16

Women are sacred but are lesser minds, so we need to Biblically beat them into submission! Oneironaut Feb 2018 #8

He probably approves. tazkcmo Feb 2018 #2

Photo of Colbie Holderness' black eye: panader0 Feb 2018 #4

I really hope she left the same day Hekate Feb 2018 #12

Well, hey, he's INNOCENT! lastlib Feb 2018 #30

"Integrity" and "honor" are pretty loosely defined in this administration. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2018 #5

Oh yeah?.. Thanks, Buns_of_Fire! Cha Feb 2018 #18

Let's Get This STRAIGHT!!!!!! maxrandb Feb 2018 #6

Powerful response. Ilsa Feb 2018 #13

+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #33

His work record isn't the issue. TheOther95Percent Feb 2018 #9

You mean Mr. John "Women were once revered in this country" Kelly? bullwinkle428 Feb 2018 #10

That's the one. NT enough Feb 2018 #17

The "once revered" women he is talking about is probably back when women Maraya1969 Feb 2018 #27

Or when they greeted them at the door in high heels 👠flouncy shirt waist dress👗 perfectly coifed sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #31

I recently read somewhere that choking is the strongest predictor that an abuser will go on Squinch Feb 2018 #19

Looks like Rob Porter is probably left handed texasfiddler Feb 2018 #20

This is so pathetic... Upthevibe Feb 2018 #21

Does John Kelly Have Problems Of His Own Hiding In The Closet DallasNE Feb 2018 #22

The military might want to pull Corgigal Feb 2018 #23

There appears to be a pattern. Marcuse Feb 2018 #24

Your link doesn't work. Do you have another? Maraya1969 Feb 2018 #26

Apologies. Try this. Marcuse Feb 2018 #28

The whole situation with Kelly on the staff creeps me out. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #32

I'm now curious about how John Kelly treats his wife. Racists tend to be Maraya1969 Feb 2018 #25

That's a good question. OnDoutside Feb 2018 #34

Isn't the experssion actually, "beyond belief?" "Beyond disbelief" would mean it is believable. Nitram Feb 2018 #29