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In reply to the discussion: Having taken in a homeless teen myself, I strongly disagree with those who are blaming the couple [View all]rainin
(3,005 posts)27. Perhaps it will be unpopular, but I think the "father" is culpable.
Consider this, if the father were asked "would he do anything differently?", my guess is, he would strongly regret his judgement with the gun. It's not a handgun, or a rifle. I doubt any one of us would agree to bring a high powered machine gun into our home and give a key to a 19-year-old.
I wouldn't even give my car to a 19-year-old without a lot of proof that he was stable, healthy, trustworthy, etc.
This dad was wrong, even though he meant well.
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Having taken in a homeless teen myself, I strongly disagree with those who are blaming the couple [View all]
pnwmom
Feb 2018
OP
Yeah why would anyone blame this couple who gave him a roof for a few weeks.
Eliot Rosewater
Feb 2018
#1
As I said, they could have made him get rid of it. But he could have simply brought it or another
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#11
I dont blame them, if he was not be able to obtain weapon he would not kill so many kids
AlexSFCA
Feb 2018
#5
Searching an adult's room is an invasion of privacy. If I had done that to the teen we took in,
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#10
Some were saying they wouldn't have allowed a gun into the house. But how would they know,
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#65
They probably saw the help of getting him into GED classes and a new job as progress. Thier own
lunasun
Feb 2018
#15
I agree. The whole culture, and the government that supports it, is to blame. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#20
That's exactly it. It makes us feel safer to think we'd never do anything that we believe,
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#28
As you said above- ignore you have suspicions, you can search. And a total stranger brings a gun?
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#32
In this case Im a fuck ton better than anyone who shrugged over the guns and knives, yes I am.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#50
What makes you think that if the friend's father had banned this teen and his gun from the house
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#75
Well, I guess we have no choice but to allow armed teenagers to move into our houses.
LisaL
Feb 2018
#81
Of course we have that choice and it might usually be the right choice. However, we are deluding
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#84
Yes -- I think that could have been the friend's parents' hope. It just didn't work out that way,
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#91
Bullshit. They were okay with the gun locked away if they insist on calling it that.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#96
And if the kid preferred to leave than get rid of his gun, then what? He would have been
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#98
They don't, except in the same way all of us do -- as a part of a sick society with
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#101
Nope. They harbored a sick kid with an AK-15. Well meaning people do stupid things all the time.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#104
Pushing a kid out into the street with an assault rifle would have been just as risky.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#106
The roof over his head didn't make the school shooting any more likely. If he had gotten kicked out,
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#111
He wasnt getting kicked out, he preferred to live elsewhere. Spare me the guilt bullshit.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#112
Like I said, I would have taken the gun and kicked him out without it if he insisted on keeping it.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#95
Hindsight is always 20/20. The father did his best. Meanwhile, we have members of the GOP
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#41
What if he hadn't allowed the teen in? How do you know the teen wouldn't have shot up the school
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#49
If every parent had a no gun policy, hed be on the streets and the radar of police and social
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#51
you don't know that but you don't give in to their gun obsession . you want a fucking place to stay
JI7
Feb 2018
#53
And so he leaves and shoots up the school the next day. How do you know that wouldn't happen?
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#87
Why do you think if they kicked him out then anyone would have been any safer (except they
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#59
While we can speculate about what he could or couldn't have done, we know what he actually did do.
LisaL
Feb 2018
#66
We suddenly found ourselves in a situation with no rulebook -- just feeling our way.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#46
What difference does that make? People are saying that the parents shouldn't have allowed him
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#68
Hindsight is always 20/20.But these parents didn't have the advantage of it when they were deciding.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#71
Their son asked if he could move in with them. I haven't seen it reported anywhere
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#74
They knew he had the gun. So? He still would have had the gun if they banned him from the house.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#80
I am not arguing that. I am saying that it is basically IRRELEVANT. That teen was a threat
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#85
Hed not been forced to roam the streets. He preferred to find other accommodations.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#113
If the parents had kicked him out, he would have been out on the streets with his loaded backpack.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#115
He was in the home of his moms friend and he wanted to leave. Not a night in the streets.
bettyellen
Feb 2018
#117
I remember going to see the Dalai Lama when he came to Seattle. I still have a t-shirt from that
suffragette
Feb 2018
#94
Thank you for being there for your daughter's friend. And for being persistent about the issue
suffragette
Feb 2018
#103
We don't have guns in our home either. But I don't think this town would have been any safer
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#107
I'm very soft hearted and would have taken him in too but still feel there's no reason for anyone to
blueinredohio
Feb 2018
#109