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karynnj

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121. The Russian and Iran sanctions were together and the
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:36 AM
Feb 2018

Iran sanctions could jeopardize the Iran deal. Note they, not the Russian ones were implemented. Bernie explained his vote when he cast it

There are many on this board who are now trying to equate Bernie panader0 Feb 2018 #1
He's not equated with Trump except in this regard.... the Russians worked to help him win. scheming daemons Feb 2018 #3
What did Sanders win? leftstreet Feb 2018 #5
They worked to help him win.... they ultimately failed. scheming daemons Feb 2018 #14
They divided us askyagerz Feb 2018 #16
And they damaged Hillary EffieBlack Feb 2018 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #23
Yes, you're flat out wrong. EffieBlack Feb 2018 #29
Give me a break askyagerz Feb 2018 #35
Why are you so defensive? EffieBlack Feb 2018 #41
Sorry but when you're talking about askyagerz Feb 2018 #44
Read my post again. EffieBlack Feb 2018 #45
Nope, that is not how it has always worked. One look at JPR should tell you that. The kind of stevenleser Feb 2018 #32
Duck ! LOL Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #53
What Does JPR Stand For?....nt global1 Feb 2018 #60
Jack Pine Radicals. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #80
Who festered hatred against Hillary in 2008? Seriously now. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #63
And that has what bearing on the discussion now? None. stevenleser Feb 2018 #119
About these "accusations that had already started to stick" -- what were they? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #77
The "what" is not important. What is important is that Sanders could have done a lot to help stevenleser Feb 2018 #120
You seem to think that differences over issues and policy made no difference at all. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #125
Regarding the discussion we are having they don't matter at all. This is about Russian collusion stevenleser Feb 2018 #139
I was responding to your #120. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #143
Yes, while willfully ignoring the context of it. I know. nt stevenleser Feb 2018 #144
The Russians supported Bernies campaign R B Garr Feb 2018 #157
Yes! nt marybourg Feb 2018 #22
Sanders was NOT part of the Russian collusion. ananda Feb 2018 #39
IMHO Me. Feb 2018 #58
And his ineffectiveness at reigning in his supporters. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #83
Quite Me. Feb 2018 #107
It was his fault, either he colluded, or he allowed Russian backed memes to drive some of his stevenleser Feb 2018 #140
period Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #151
Anyone remember how hateful our community became to each other? kstewart33 Feb 2018 #136
So they were geniuses in regard to beating Hillary with Trump Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #172
It was all about dividing the left askyagerz Feb 2018 #15
Precisely!! Amsterdammer Feb 2018 #37
Hell look at the forum tonight askyagerz Feb 2018 #38
And you're helping it. n/t Chemisse Feb 2018 #47
There are a couple of possibilities...first...Putin despises Hillary and wanted anyone but her to Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #111
Not at all. Read the indictment. They promoted two candidates and denigrated... George II Feb 2018 #135
A bunch of voters indoctrinated to hate Hillary. I know quite a few. bettyellen Feb 2018 #52
I just don't understand it leftstreet Feb 2018 #61
Angry young men, mostly -in a very liberal areas around NYC... have bettyellen Feb 2018 #97
They helped him to win, and he lost anyway. George II Feb 2018 #134
Grossly Flawed Logic ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #12
Have you seen the list of groups Russia used to "help" Bernie? Autumn Feb 2018 #13
No. They worked to help Trump win by undermining HRC, and supporting Bernie was tblue37 Feb 2018 #17
They wanted Trump to win all along. Blue_true Feb 2018 #19
Exactly! tecelote Feb 2018 #40
I'm not so sure they wanted him to win. Chemisse Feb 2018 #42
+1 leftstreet Feb 2018 #4
there were many that equated Hillary with Trump. They left in a huff and joined JPR...then came back BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #8
. . . and brought their bullshit with them. nt Codeine Feb 2018 #43
Arent many people to this day threatening not to support moderate democrats and Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #55
Yup...been reading it all right here BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #65
I've been reading that here for the last months, Eliot mcar Feb 2018 #72
+1,000 CountAllVotes Feb 2018 #30
Well..... FarPoint Feb 2018 #51
And is talking about using them again... MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #85
Not "equating", but from the indictment one can't deny that the Russians attempted to help him. George II Feb 2018 #57
Do you have a link to the indictment? panader0 Feb 2018 #62
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download George II Feb 2018 #66
Thank you George panader0 Feb 2018 #67
I saw Sanders name mentioned once, section 43, page 17. panader0 Feb 2018 #76
He was mentioned twice, and show how he was "helped". Both on page 17 George II Feb 2018 #78
I'd vote for Jimmy Carter today! Zen Democrat Feb 2018 #71
No mention of the bots supporting him? Generic Brad Feb 2018 #2
What should he have said? liberalnarb Feb 2018 #6
Bad, bot! Bad!! Generic Brad Feb 2018 #7
Couldn't Because He Isn't Me. Feb 2018 #59
How about mcar Feb 2018 #74
yeah. imho his hands are as dirty as anyones. mopinko Feb 2018 #26
Your statement is simply false. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #82
No mention that he signed the same agreement with the DNC? Or got the same email from Brazile? bettyellen Feb 2018 #54
Then there is the tax returns. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #84
Sigh. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #87
Wasnt the second agreement after she won the primary? bettyellen Feb 2018 #118
I'm talking about the 2015 agreement Jim Lane Feb 2018 #124
The thing is- Sanders created an adversarial relationship with the DNC. Stealing data, suing them bettyellen Feb 2018 #146
You spew out lie after lie and ignore the secret 2015 agreement. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #147
It gave her the power IF she should become the nominee. And so fucking what. bettyellen Feb 2018 #148
Your subject line is just flat-out false. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #149
Well good for her, becasue she had already been raising big money for them... bettyellen Feb 2018 #152
You're pretty free with your accusations Jim Lane Feb 2018 #153
He allowed her to be accused of cheating w April Ryan when Ryan sent him the same email.... bettyellen Feb 2018 #154
You probably won't believe this but... Jim Lane Feb 2018 #155
Im sure you can google better than that, but you can keep your head in the sand. bettyellen Feb 2018 #156
Bernie Sanders response to Mueller indictment does not address that this Russian operation tried to Cha Feb 2018 #116
No One Is Going To be Able To Dodge This Me. Feb 2018 #126
Yes, "..address the issue fully and honestly.." Cha Feb 2018 #141
Tons of American bots supported Hillary Nevernose Feb 2018 #163
Didnt he vote against the Russia sanctions as well? BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #9
Wow! I wonder why. What a strange thing to do. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #20
The sanctions were not only against Russia but included Iran and N Korea as well. panader0 Feb 2018 #24
Lord. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #27
so purity was more important than sanctions on Russia? too bad about those purity standards. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #28
Whooosh---- panader0 Feb 2018 #31
excuses from any apologetic...not buying 'em BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #33
Honing your Dem Party dividing skills for the midterms? n/t Chemisse Feb 2018 #50
The Iran deal isimportant. karynnj Feb 2018 #122
Our threatened Democracy was paramount...even over Iran BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #128
All but two voted for the sanctions sheshe2 Feb 2018 #86
Wow, so three people only against Russian sanctions R B Garr Feb 2018 #89
Lol! sheshe2 Feb 2018 #94
Thx for checking! I have to say it appears more R B Garr Feb 2018 #98
Oh yeah. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #99
I find his reasoning curious. I also don't like him lumped in with Rand Paul. panader0 Feb 2018 #91
Curiuos, yes. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #95
You know why. Just stop it. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #174
The Russian and Iran sanctions were together and the karynnj Feb 2018 #121
Bottom line, while Iran is important, USA democracy is MORE important BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #129
No it was a PROTEST VOTE on the sanctions, knowing it would pass karynnj Feb 2018 #150
So why vote against the Russia sanctions, Bernie? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #10
. Snotcicles Feb 2018 #18
purity stand, so no vote on Sanctions...got it. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #34
Just an answer to your question. nt Snotcicles Feb 2018 #36
Wait, wanting to protect the Iran deal is purity? liberalnarb Feb 2018 #73
Please count me in on your purity caucus. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #88
Me too karynnj Feb 2018 #123
Yes, Bernie's stuck on one pet project and he ignored the threat to US Democracy BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #130
Heres a crazy idea Kentonio Feb 2018 #159
NO, not half the party adores your candidate BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #161
Is there a reason youre still refighting the primary? Kentonio Feb 2018 #166
Is there a reason you are promoting a false meme? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #167
We have Trump in the white house, the GOP in both house and senate Kentonio Feb 2018 #168
Ha, you question my contribution and ignore what Bernie and his followers have done BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #169
Ok, so you care more about petty in-fighting than about stopping the GOP. Kentonio Feb 2018 #170
Projecting much? BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #171
Read your own posts. Kentonio Feb 2018 #175
Meanwhile his campaign people are singing a different tune: Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #11
Yup, people like her are angry at the influence non whites have in the party JI7 Feb 2018 #49
God, she's so fucking stupid. Starry Messenger Feb 2018 #162
Really people! Get over it! denvine Feb 2018 #46
Thank you Senator Sanders. We need more like you. jalan48 Feb 2018 #48
You're darned right, Bernie. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #56
where was the outrage last year? getagrip_already Feb 2018 #64
He believed his own hype. Codeine Feb 2018 #68
I wouldn't go that far, but does ...... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #69
I think Martin O'Malley Jamaal510 Feb 2018 #108
true, but not really progressive..... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #109
Not really progressive? WTF? FSogol Feb 2018 #173
Division? liberalnarb Feb 2018 #75
"Campaigning one's ass off"... lapucelle Feb 2018 #137
Nicely worded and exceedingly accurate. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #138
Sorry it took me so long to respond... lapucelle Feb 2018 #145
Bernie "encouraged division" by campaigning for Hillary? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #90
He barely and reluctantly campaigned for Clinton, and didn't make his first appearance.... George II Feb 2018 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Feb 2018 #104
You call it "barely and reluctantly", fine. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #112
Sorry, my recollection is entirely different. The campaign began the day after the Convention..... George II Feb 2018 #113
Well... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #103
My observation too. In 2008, when the Convention closed Clinton took a day or so off.... George II Feb 2018 #106
Donna Brazile's book stated that Weaver came to her with Bernie's offer to replace Hillary ehrnst Feb 2018 #105
donna brazille is part of the problem.... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #110
Are you blaming Muslims and African Americans, too? Nevernose Feb 2018 #164
Good statement Sen. Sanders...I had hoped for such...People as many of you know, I am not a Sen. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #70
Thank you! Jim Lane Feb 2018 #92
You should have stopped at Thank You. R B Garr Feb 2018 #96
I didn't see you bash Hillary even when you could (hehe)...and while we disagree on some Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #100
Where is Sanders' recognition of and apology for the assistance Russia gave him per the indictments? LonePirate Feb 2018 #79
If he wasn't involved in it, he has nothing to apologise for. meadowlander Feb 2018 #158
It was clear to many of us. Some others? Not so much. I remember it being downplayed from... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2018 #81
My take on it is frogmarch Feb 2018 #93
I still love Bernie!!! nt babylonsister Feb 2018 #101
And some people never learn realFedUp Feb 2018 #165
Investigation enid602 Feb 2018 #114
Bernie Sanders response to Mueller indictment does not address that this Russian operation tried to Cha Feb 2018 #115
Can't Escape It Me. Feb 2018 #133
Good on Bernie. Willie Pep Feb 2018 #117
Don't forget - the Senate voted 98-2 to impose sanctions on Russia. Guess who one of those two was? George II Feb 2018 #127
I'm sure Trump and Putin appreciates the assistance BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #131
But, But, But..... Me. Feb 2018 #132
Bernie fans shared fake Russian Hillary stories millions of time Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #142
The lack of self awareness in the replies here is quite incredible. Kentonio Feb 2018 #160
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