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EX500rider

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53. I am saying all deaths are tragic and you are just as dead regardless of means.

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:35 PM

Feb 2018

Outlawing all rifles and killers will move to pistols, death count won't budge much if at all. With murder it is the intent, not the means.

Figure out how to lower the major causes of premature death like falls and poison will save more people from tragic ends.
60,000 dead a year is a seriously big number and dwarfs the 300+ who get shot by rifles.

Lower rifle deaths by 10% and you saved 30 people. Lower falls/poison deaths by 10% and you saved 6,000 people.

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Any weapon that has the words military, assault, attached to it must be banned. [View all] shockey80 Feb 2018 OP

Only certain police officers should have them and never as personal weapons. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #1

All that would accomplish would be the manufacturers changing the name. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #2

No, that would hurt sales. It would kill the gun nuts' woody. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #7

And sometimes not even that. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #8

Modern sporting rifle has been the industry term for many years jmowreader Feb 2018 #21

Not to worry. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #29

once upon a time Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #34

True story jmowreader Feb 2018 #37

Well, calling it a Sporting Rifle makes the microdick gun nuts think they're athletes. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #25

You've got some weird legislative priorities. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #28

It's weird for you to claim that is my "legislative priority." SunSeeker Feb 2018 #30

Who's defending? Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #31

LOL. Your post is so ironic. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #33

That infringes on my god given rights to play army man ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #3

And many gun people fit that description but some dont. The ones who dont need Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #6

I admit, I have shot at diet coke cans ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #9

Too bad Im not the judge in his brandishing trial jmowreader Feb 2018 #27

If you thumb through the off road magazines, you will find companies that make these mounts ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #44

Congress must past laws that label them. shockey80 Feb 2018 #4

Good luck with that.... Adrahil Feb 2018 #12

Adrahil and Iggo are both correct better Feb 2018 #46

You just gave the terminology-sidestepper-gunfuckers a boner. Iggo Feb 2018 #5

That's...not how it works. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #10

,,,,, Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #11

+100. And those, and similar, rifles can be used for intimidation, not just killing sprees. Hoyt Feb 2018 #13

Gun hicks on the march. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #16

LMAO. That one made me spit my coffee. Hoyt Feb 2018 #19

Looks more like a waddle to me. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #24

+1000 dchill Feb 2018 #76

So, 400+- dead a year from rifles terrible but 9,000 dead from pistols, meh? EX500rider Feb 2018 #14

Hooray! The score-keepers have arrived! Iggo Feb 2018 #15

Trying to ban rifles won't budge the much larger number if anyone actually cares. EX500rider Feb 2018 #17

Those people are dead. They're not coming back. Absolutely nothing will change that number downward. Iggo Feb 2018 #22

Gotta ya, you don't care, somehow 300 is worse then 9,000. EX500rider Feb 2018 #26

Figuring out what does the most damage is more common sense then "keeping score" EX500rider Feb 2018 #51

A larger number of people were murdered with knives or other cutting instruments than with rifles... Marengo Feb 2018 #59

Do you care about the number or the means? Baconator Feb 2018 #67

Are you saying not to ban assault rifles at all edhopper Feb 2018 #18

Sure looks like it from here. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #20

I am saying if you actually care about how may people die then pistols do all the killing. EX500rider Feb 2018 #23

Nice NRA talking point you got there. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #32

Saying "NRA talking point(s)" is no different than saying "Fake news" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #40

The whataboutism of the talking point is designed to end discussion re ARs. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #42

Well, *do* you want to band handguns as well? If not, banning rifles is mere security theater if... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #45

Man, you guys are persistant, I'll grant you that. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #47

Persistence works. Gun control activists tend to get distracted after a while... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #48

Yes, we have a life and are not obsessed with any one thing. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #49

"(T)here are a lot more of us than there are of them" *They* vote like clockwork, and... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #72

So it's a NRA talking point that pistols do 97% of the killing or just the truth? EX500rider Feb 2018 #50

You're deflecting from ARs. I won't play that game. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #55

Because the laser focus on a particular model of semi-auto rifles is stupid. EX500rider Feb 2018 #58

Bingo. Straw Man Feb 2018 #62

It's a start. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #65

Yes, getting rid of one model of rifles out of hundreds ought to do wonders... EX500rider Feb 2018 #70

Your concern is duly noted. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #71

accidents equal murder? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #36

I am saying all deaths are tragic and you are just as dead regardless of means. EX500rider Feb 2018 #53

statistics disagree with you Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #54

Which country outlawed semi-auto rifles of a certain type and not pistols and moved their rate? EX500rider Feb 2018 #63

You forgot a couple paragraphs from the article cited at that link. By accident, I'm sure: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #73

no, didn't forget Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #75

That is straight edhopper Feb 2018 #39

That's why the gun-fucks are so feverishly trying to get us to stop Aristus Feb 2018 #35

If it's not a complete ban, you're going to have to get technical at some point Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #38

That is not all. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #41

We need to do both. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #43

Gunsplainers come here to South Florida HopeAgain Feb 2018 #52

So that lets out the AR-50? brooklynite Feb 2018 #56

The gun industry wants people to call them "Modern Sporting Rifles" Kaleva Feb 2018 #57

Would that include the United States Magazine Rifle, Caliber .30? Marengo Feb 2018 #60

If it can kill a lot of people quickly, then the answer is yes HopeAgain Feb 2018 #64

Define a lot. The rifle I mentioned in commonly referred to as the Krag, models of 1892-99... Marengo Feb 2018 #68

I get it, it's so complicated HopeAgain Feb 2018 #69

If you want to ban something, details matter friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #74

Children matter HopeAgain Feb 2018 #77

so SICK of the gun humping apologist cowards Skittles Feb 2018 #61

+1 SunSeeker Feb 2018 #66

K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #78