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32. Propaganda. _Federalist_ is propaganda paid for by Koches
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 08:02 PM
Feb 2018

Everything the Federalist writes is designed to harm Democrats and help GOP billionaire donors.

Here, their line is to sow despair and encourage us to give up.

We should not listen to a single word the Federalist writes.

Fuck 'em. Don't care. Iggo Feb 2018 #1
I guess we can safely put you in the "Just want to fight" category... Baconator Feb 2018 #6
Nope. Iggo Feb 2018 #9
Same difference... Baconator Feb 2018 #13
You volunteering to go door to door? fallout87 Feb 2018 #95
There is nothing to fight about. Kids are getting murdered in schools. If they need me to kiss wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #12
How do you expect to get from A to B (whatever that is)... Baconator Feb 2018 #15
You are dealing here with a Republican party that doesn't negotiate Cary Feb 2018 #20
Have you read "How Democracies Die"? Baconator Feb 2018 #25
What's your point? Cary Feb 2018 #71
We're not dealing the repugs of the 80s, even the 90s. Were you paying attention at all since 2000? brush Feb 2018 #102
"You are dealing here with a Republican party that doesn't negotiate" Alpeduez21 Feb 2018 #158
The ramification is that it's a waste of time to negotiate with them Cary Feb 2018 #161
This is the only way to deal with this problem with Republicans Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #99
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #79
Your article contained ZERO strategies for reducing massacres. Not my problem? lostnfound Feb 2018 #128
I agree. At this point, I could give a flying fuck about what they want. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #38
Bingo. Fuck em. stopbush Feb 2018 #69
Not true shenmue Feb 2018 #2
I thought this was an important article when I saw it earlier this morning. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #3
If you read the Federalist you are not a Democrat sharedvalues Feb 2018 #35
No true Scotsman, eh? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #48
Federalist is billionaire-funded propaganda sharedvalues Feb 2018 #51
The source is inconsequential Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #80
I was unfamiliar w/The Federalist, so just took a look. It's not a legit source. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #85
Name one time when ANYONE has called for the right to "have an open discussion" Cosmocat Feb 2018 #148
I believe that we Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #159
Have we learned nothing? The source is ALWAYS consequential. Squinch Feb 2018 #151
We have learned a significant amount of things but perhaps Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #160
I have, indeed, completed all the learning that there is to find from trollish sites like Squinch Feb 2018 #162
I've never read it, but it's been my observation.... Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #81
I am an advocate of the 2nd amendment that also believes in gun control GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #4
Exactly. xmas74 Feb 2018 #115
What do you find helpful there? Cary Feb 2018 #5
Uh huh... Just now...? This very moment? Baconator Feb 2018 #8
What if it was? Cary Feb 2018 #16
I did in the OP... Baconator Feb 2018 #21
I see Cary Feb 2018 #24
If your goal is for your opponent to just give up and think like you do... Baconator Feb 2018 #26
My goal? Cary Feb 2018 #45
You claim that you aren't responsible for others... Baconator Feb 2018 #130
About 15 here Motownman78 Feb 2018 #28
About 15 what? Cary Feb 2018 #42
The perspective of the other side is that they have already given up too much. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #138
Yes, Federalist, who funds you?? Even conservatives question this pub sharedvalues Feb 2018 #41
Kids arendying in scholl and we have to coddle gun owners? Fuck that! wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #7
The same way we have to coddle racists and misogynists. Iggo Feb 2018 #10
Pretty accurate article. Decoy of Fenris Feb 2018 #11
I'm embarrassed sometimes when I'm at party meetings at the rhetoric and disinformation that I WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #30
The Federalist is pure propaganda sharedvalues Feb 2018 #33
Yes, Federalist is a right-wing rag. That doesn't mean everything they say is inherently false. Decoy of Fenris Feb 2018 #64
No. It means what they say is propaganda. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #67
Even propaganda can be correct. Decoy of Fenris Feb 2018 #72
Yes. Thats why you note the sources bias sharedvalues Feb 2018 #74
7) their cowardice trumps all sense Skittles Feb 2018 #14
and 8) they have teeny weeny tiny dweller Feb 2018 #43
dead children don't bother them Skittles Feb 2018 #44
LOL. That's just 6 different ways of saying what they've always said: "Your thousands of dead Squinch Feb 2018 #17
Nothing new in any of that. I do agree KPN Feb 2018 #18
Yup. Propaganda. Schindler: Federalist less subtle than RT or Sputnik sharedvalues Feb 2018 #34
Screw these worthless killers and those who support them vocally or tacitly. Hoyt Feb 2018 #19
You constantly post the same few pictures....while you AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #37
Well, glad you are over here from Discussionist to see them. Hoyt Feb 2018 #55
That's some sad deflection.... AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #66
Here... tenderfoot Feb 2018 #88
Tell Ya What, OldGeezer Leith Feb 2018 #119
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 and then some. Hoyt Feb 2018 #164
Interesting....I just pointed out Hoyt's fallacy...the racial 1 he CONSTANTLY AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #187
Of Course I Dispute Your Assertion Leith Feb 2018 #189
What "...facist and racist crap..." have I EVER posted here? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #190
Just look at these losers! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #40
Your argument seems to be lumping every gun owner and supporter into the same bin rpannier Feb 2018 #54
At this point, unless you are supporting gun control, you ARE in the same bin. Squinch Feb 2018 #56
Exactly. It's like a trump supporter claiming they aren't racist. If you tolerate Hoyt Feb 2018 #58
I'd also kind of like to know: what is a "gun supporter." Is that like the ladies Squinch Feb 2018 #61
Give your definition of gun control please rpannier Feb 2018 #60
Stop that NRA bullshit. There is plenty of consensus. There are many measures that huge majorities Squinch Feb 2018 #63
I want to know what you think rpannier Feb 2018 #90
Really, not interested in having these NRA inspired list discussions. They always end up Squinch Feb 2018 #92
What is this list you are referring to? Something published by the NRA, something you can link... Marengo Feb 2018 #186
Pretty much. Support guns, one supports these losers and mass killers, nowadays. Hoyt Feb 2018 #57
I wonder if POTUS agrees w/you AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #68
Most folks, even your buddies on the Discussionist, know where he stands Hoyt Feb 2018 #73
I'm a big fan of the over under President Obama is shooting...I have 1 AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #75
Does that make you feel special? Squinch Feb 2018 #82
Cracks me up when gun-fanciers think their guns actually impress anyone. Just the opposite here. Hoyt Feb 2018 #87
I think it's more of a three-year-old-esque attempt to bug the people he's talking to. Squinch Feb 2018 #89
I'd say it's more...if it's a false claim it needs to be addressed..Hoyt is good AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #188
So you're saying it does make you feel special or it doesn't? Squinch Feb 2018 #195
Me special....hell no. Just pointing out fallacies doesn't make me special...makes me honest. AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #196
Well...per you AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #200
Well that settles that.. Baconator Feb 2018 #201
Whats the issue with the Lahti L39? Marengo Feb 2018 #76
Nothing wrong with an anti-tank gun in a war zone. This is not a war zone, Marengo, in case you Hoyt Feb 2018 #86
Its an NFA weapon. Expensive, extensive background check for the buyer, and above all registered. Marengo Feb 2018 #94
Who cares? The guy is a racist getting off on a big rifle. That crud fuels the friggin white wing Hoyt Feb 2018 #96
So what? Non of that is relevant to the fact that a Lahti L39 legal to own following the... Marengo Feb 2018 #123
Lots of things are legal, but deplorable and immoral. Gunner racism may be OK Hoyt Feb 2018 #124
Robbery is immoral and selfish, but that didnt stop you. Marengo Feb 2018 #127
You are too obtuse to own guns. Read the thread in full, without pointing Hoyt Feb 2018 #139
Obtuse is failing to comprehend that after having admitted to committing immoral and criminal... Marengo Feb 2018 #146
OOOOH! You're getting fancy! That's the "but what about the bad thing YOU did that has Squinch Feb 2018 #150
Leaping to the defense of an admitted criminal who chastises others for being immoral? Ill... Marengo Feb 2018 #152
Oh. My. God! We have a CHAMPION here! That's the "I unilaterally declare you Squinch Feb 2018 #153
Hey, its no bother to me if want to damage your credibility by hitching your horse to that wagon. Marengo Feb 2018 #166
LOL! And now you are reduced to, "I know you are but what am I?" Squinch Feb 2018 #169
As I said, its your credibility at stake. So please, do continue. Marengo Feb 2018 #173
. Squinch Feb 2018 #175
Didn't admit to being a criminal, tried to get you gunners to accept fact everyone is not out to Hoyt Feb 2018 #165
Yes you did. You refered to yourself as a former robber. Unless robbery isnt a crime, that means... Marengo Feb 2018 #167
Wow! You've been stalking him since 2012?? That's not creepy at all. Squinch Feb 2018 #171
Interesting thats what you focus on rather than the point that an admitted criminal has no... Marengo Feb 2018 #172
"I've gotten myself into a corner on that gun discussion we were having, so I'll Squinch Feb 2018 #174
He admitted to it, if you didnt notice. Do you consider robbery a moral act? Marengo Feb 2018 #177
Back to the silly rhetorical question! I HAVE BINGO!!! Squinch Feb 2018 #179
What you have is someone, myself, who finds it curious you would so quickly and consistently... Marengo Feb 2018 #182
Oh, sweetie, I know you worked hard for this, memorizing the script and everything. Squinch Feb 2018 #184
What is this script argument you keep resorting to? What are you claiming is scripted, and... Marengo Feb 2018 #185
What corner would that be? Marengo Feb 2018 #180
This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #194
This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #197
You certainly did...admit to being a criminal...shall I quote YOU? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #203
Responding to you gunners who said robbers lock doors when they are going Hoyt Feb 2018 #206
I wouldn't trigger you by posting about my "gunz" AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #217
You and your Discussionist buddies cant erase the context either. Hoyt Feb 2018 #218
Again a Hoyt fallacy...I don't have di "buddies". You can't link your claim either. AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #222
Same Old Lame Talking Points Leith Feb 2018 #22
Like I said above Motownman78 Feb 2018 #29
All we need to know about guns is that they kill people treestar Feb 2018 #107
.... LexVegas Feb 2018 #23
I'm sorry that I offended a bunch of bloody-handed, racist cowards samir.g Feb 2018 #27
All gun owners are bloody-handed, racist cowards? Marengo Feb 2018 #77
I'll allow that there may be a small minority that aren't. samir.g Feb 2018 #78
How about the gun owners here on DU, are they exempt? All, or just some? Marengo Feb 2018 #103
You'll have to ask them why they love the same murder machines as the fascists samir.g Feb 2018 #133
All gun owners love murder machines? Would you define murder machine? Marengo Feb 2018 #136
Bwahahahaha!!!! There you go again! That's page 4 of the script, right? Squinch Feb 2018 #142
Perhaps you can offer an opinion, if youre capable of anything other than this script nonsense. Marengo Feb 2018 #168
Did you not get the part where I said it would be a waste of my time to offer you an opinion? Squinch Feb 2018 #170
Rubbish, youve wasted considerably more time dodging the question. Why is that? Its odd and Marengo Feb 2018 #176
Seriously, this is the most fun I've had with one of you guys in a long time. I've found Squinch Feb 2018 #178
You guys? What do you mean by that? Marengo Feb 2018 #181
You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than getting an answer AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #198
Agreed. A classic one trick pony, that one. It seems to regard itself as clever, but I see no... Marengo Feb 2018 #209
What do you mean by you guys? Where is this script you keep referring to? Have a link or cite? Marengo Feb 2018 #207
Something they apparently don't have in abundance in most civilized countries. nt Wednesdays Feb 2018 #205
Can you provide more details? What characteristics distinguish a murder machine from other firearms? Marengo Feb 2018 #208
All those trolling against, speaking against, working in any way against sensible gun control Squinch Feb 2018 #83
Can you define sensible gun control? Marengo Feb 2018 #104
Seriously, you guys need to vary the script now and then. Squinch Feb 2018 #108
Sensible is entirely subjective, and your refusal to answer is interesting, perhaps even a bit... Marengo Feb 2018 #116
Suspect away. Your script is obvious. And really, really old. Squinch Feb 2018 #132
Why cant you express at least some of your ideas? Are they that controversial or extreme? Its not.. Marengo Feb 2018 #134
You really can't handle the script being taken away from you, can you? Squinch Feb 2018 #140
I find it extremely odd that you expect absolute agreement with a position you are unwilling or... Marengo Feb 2018 #144
When did I ever ask YOU for any agreement, much less absolute agreement? YOUR agreement Squinch Feb 2018 #147
Again, very odd you spend all this effort deflecting and avoiding answering a simple question. Marengo Feb 2018 #154
LOL! You can't think of anything else, can you? Lost like a little lamb in the woods! Squinch Feb 2018 #155
I'm not a lamb...shall we visit posts made here. AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #199
What is this script you keep referring to, and what is the relation to the NRA? Marengo Feb 2018 #183
A lot of it is high school KT2000 Feb 2018 #31
I will disagree with you on one point. They LIKE their guns. They LOVE that we hate their guns. Squinch Feb 2018 #70
excellent point! n/t KT2000 Feb 2018 #93
I've found that I get further with them... MountCleaners Feb 2018 #137
Propaganda. _Federalist_ is propaganda paid for by Koches sharedvalues Feb 2018 #32
#7--They do not know the definition of "well regulated". randr Feb 2018 #36
#8 - They care more about their guns than their kids. LonePirate Feb 2018 #53
This to me is the starting and the kacekwl Feb 2018 #59
DU is not for peddling right wing garbage from places like The Federalist n/t kcr Feb 2018 #39
This Stargleamer Feb 2018 #46
Interesting post. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #47
Interesting- what do you mean? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #49
Let's just say I didn't like it--or the source cited. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #50
Yup, agreed. And, Federalist is even worse... sharedvalues Feb 2018 #52
Fuck em. Glamrock Feb 2018 #62
The Federalist ? more at the link ? Huh? lunasun Feb 2018 #65
The Blood on Their Hands Attacks Are Offensive tenderfoot Feb 2018 #84
I made the same point below about the blood on their hands argument. Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #98
+1 treestar Feb 2018 #106
It HAS applied only to the NRA before, but now, in my mind, it applies to anyone who Squinch Feb 2018 #110
In the early 1960s, you could have written essentially the very same article, substituting bullwinkle428 Feb 2018 #91
Let me shred each one Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #97
Nicely done! Squinch Feb 2018 #109
On the surface those are 6 thoughtful points Nevernose Feb 2018 #100
Just let me put it this way,,, world wide wally Feb 2018 #101
#2 is kind of funny, since they call us "snowflakes" treestar Feb 2018 #105
Criticism or insult... Baconator Feb 2018 #131
Sorry. Really tired of this one. We're supposed to be sensitive to the feelings of these Squinch Feb 2018 #141
Their first point "We Rarely Get to Come to the Conversation in Good Faith " PA Democrat Feb 2018 #111
don't have any r.w. friends. and piss on the r/w's whiney justifications. KG Feb 2018 #112
You have a screening application? Baconator Feb 2018 #117
There is no good faith for some. xmas74 Feb 2018 #113
Fuck the second amendment. hunter Feb 2018 #114
Reason #7 Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #118
I totally don't care at this point. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #120
Odd that someone arguing for rational discussion quickly devolves into petulance LanternWaste Feb 2018 #121
What have our "right-wing friends" contributed to the debate? Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #122
1 and 5 are mutually exclusive. meadowlander Feb 2018 #125
Most Americans do not own guns. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #126
They're wingnuts. They don't come around to our side on anything Crunchy Frog Feb 2018 #129
Most ppl I know who own a gun Puzzledtraveller Feb 2018 #135
The woman is a stubborn dolt. That's why she's not coming to our side. muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #143
In practice, these aren't reasons so much as excuses... JHB Feb 2018 #145
I dare you, DOUBLE dare you, to find ONE single article from an R imploring right wingers Cosmocat Feb 2018 #149
You may have missed my point... JHB Feb 2018 #156
#8 says it all vi5 Feb 2018 #157
If keeping their guns are more important to them than the wholesale slaughter of children , octoberlib Feb 2018 #163
Gun advocates can only have a valid argument... WyattKansas Feb 2018 #191
Where and when has militia membership been a prerequisite for the ownership of firearms? Marengo Feb 2018 #192
You can't cherry pick the 2nd Amendment. WyattKansas Feb 2018 #213
If the right of gun ownership exists outside militia service, then why would you suggest that... Marengo Feb 2018 #215
Are you enrolled in the state militia? If not, why do you own a firearm? Marengo Feb 2018 #193
There are no State Militias... It's not 1791 anymore. WyattKansas Feb 2018 #214
In that case, by your own argument you shouldnt possess it. Marengo Feb 2018 #216
No law has been passed saying I cannot have it, so why not? WyattKansas Feb 2018 #219
Youre not enrolled in a militia. Marengo Feb 2018 #220
So a law can be passed saying I cannot have it. WyattKansas Feb 2018 #223
By your own standard, it is illogical for you to own a firearm if not enrolled in a militia... Marengo Feb 2018 #224
Fine. Fuck 'em. hatrack Feb 2018 #202
That sounds.... Baconator Feb 2018 #204
It probably sounds however you want it to . . . hatrack Feb 2018 #210
Sounds like what's best for everyone... Baconator Feb 2018 #211
This message was self-deleted by its author TNLib Feb 2018 #212
Forgot #7 You're trying to take retread Feb 2018 #221
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