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Sophia4

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25. Many young people do not understand the risks and rewards of their conduct.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:54 AM
Feb 2018

They act on impulse. They act from an irrational anger or sorrow.

They are irrational. That may be the standard "we" use for deterrence, but it does not work.

Think of people who become alcoholics or drug addicts. They usually know the risks and rewards but cannot resist their self-destructive conduct. Gun-lovers seem to be the same.

Australia banned guns and achieved a lot more than tip the percentages a few points.

New York State's gun death rate is pretty low. We should see what they are doing because they are doing something right.

Among the worst states for gun violence at least for the period covered by Wikipedia's page were red states including Alaska, Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

California and New York, as well as many other Democratic states are among the states with the least gun deaths.

https://www.safehome.org/resources/gun-laws-and-deaths/

This list shows most clearly how conservatives in conservative states pay the high price for failure to regulate guns.

Guns should not be in schools. Period. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #1
Meh... Baconator Feb 2018 #4
It is completely unrealistic. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #12
I agree. Make it a felony. Total ban and confiscation of these killing machines is the only way johnpowdy Feb 2018 #21
Setting aside the politics of banning AR 15s, J_William_Ryan Feb 2018 #28
It's questionable as to whether the they can even be banned outright DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2018 #29
But if the average shooting last less than 5 minutes, is that enough time skip fox Feb 2018 #2
Depends... Baconator Feb 2018 #7
What the idea of having school personnel trained and armed in order to deter Sophia4 Feb 2018 #13
They were rational in the sense of understanding the consequences of their actions... Baconator Feb 2018 #16
Many young people do not understand the risks and rewards of their conduct. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #25
I can't help but feel that if Ilsa Feb 2018 #3
I'll give you all of that... Baconator Feb 2018 #10
And if school employees shoot someone, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #5
Same standards as LE I suppose... Baconator Feb 2018 #6
I suggest that you come to Los Angeles or Miami and visit a) the county hospitals Sophia4 Feb 2018 #20
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #26
So arming teachers gets shot down and NRA comes up with something else to preserve sickos' access Hoyt Feb 2018 #8
As I said in the OP... Baconator Feb 2018 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #11
You think way too much of yourself... Baconator Feb 2018 #17
Sorry kids... no microscopes for the biology lab... we need new AR-15's. NT Adrahil Feb 2018 #14
So let's say I'm an authorized shooter and an event happens. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #15
Percentages I admit... Baconator Feb 2018 #18
It's going to give people a false sense of security. I just heard on MSNBC pnwmom Feb 2018 #19
An Assault Weapons Ban is not enough johnpowdy Feb 2018 #23
Yes, I agree. Semi-automatic hand guns, too. pnwmom Feb 2018 #24
What happens if the teacher carrying the gun drops it and a kid picks it up and starts shooting? johnpowdy Feb 2018 #22
Just place guns in obvious locations throughout a school... dchill Feb 2018 #27
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