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Sophia4

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59. When Barack Obama was the candidate, Democrats came out and voted for him.
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:57 PM
Mar 2018

All kinds of Democrats. Those who supported him in the primaries and caucuses and many of those who did not.

The Democratic Party was united, and people voted. I know. I was at the polls, watching them as they marched in to vote. The Party was united because Barack Obama united it. And that is why he won.

I had gotten up very, very early that morning to go to the polls. Then I had to drive back to where I was staying. I was exhausted and went straight to bed thinking we would not know the results until the next morning.

To my surprise, my children called me to tell me that Obama had won. It was only about 10 p.m., maybe a little later or earlier. What a wonderful surprise. It was great.

There were lessons to be learned from that amazing election victory.

When Democrats nominate candidates people want to vote for, when Democrats charge the nominee with the task of uniting the Party and not just expecting people to vote for the candidate because, after all, he or she is the candidate, then the candidate wins. And he or she wins for ALL DEMOCRATS, not just those who supported him or her during the primary.

In 2016, the division in the Democratic Party was open, sore and close to bleeding during the Democratic convention. People here blame it on Bernie, but the Party was divided before Bernie decided to run. The candidate people wanted to have run against Hillary was maybe Elizabeth Warren, maybe Kucinich, maybe this one or that one, but the Party was already divided. The division was not caused by Bernie. It was not created by Bernie. It was there before Bernie decided to run. Many have forgotten that fact. Look back at the posts on DU before Bernie announced his candidacy. It's there to see.

Hillary then won the primaries and the convention. But her effort to unite the Party and make sure all Democrats especially in swing states voted for her was far too weak. I think she thought that Democrats would of course unite behind her. That did not happen.

And that failure to unite the Party behind the candidate is ALWAYS the fault of the Party leadership, ALWAYS.

Sorry. But it always is, and it was in 2016.

Leadership means uniting those being led. Uniting others is the task, the responsibility, the test of a leader.

My dad was a minister. If people didn't show up for church on Sunday morning, he did not blame THEM. He knew who was responsible. He was. People did not show up for church was because he was not supporting THEM, the people in his congregation, in the way he should. So, Monday, he would start making "calls."

What is a "call"? It's when you visit someone in their home or if they own a business, in their business, and you ask how they are doing, what is on their mind, how you can help THEM, what you can do to show solidarity with them, to support them in their life. If you are a Christian, you pray with them. That is what a "call" is. Hillary was raised a Methodist. My father was a Methodist. I assume she knows what a "call" is.

Unfortunately, Hillary did not make the "calls" she needed to make to disenchanted voters. I know it hard for people here to recognize that. But that was her mistake. She did not try to find out why people supported Bernie instead of her. She did not ask them about their problems. She could have done it. It would have been easy in this day of the internet to do it. But she could not get past bitterness, her own and that of the Bernie supporters. She should have started well before the primaries.

So don't blame Bernie. He lost, and he tried to unite the Party. He was out there trying to get people to vote for Hillary, much to the disgust of some of his supporters. Check on what Bernie was doing between the primary and the election. Google it. He was holding rallies for Hillary as well as doing his day job.

Sorry. But back to the topic of this post -- the winner of a primary is responsible for making sure that he/she unites the voters who voted for other candidates behind the winning candidate's candidacy. We need to make that very clear in the Democratic Party for candidates at all levels. The winner unites the supporters of other candidates behind him- or herself. That's how you win an election.

Truman did it. JFK did it. Clinton did it. Obama did it. That is what makes the difference between winning and losing.

Uniting the voters can be difficult. It may not seem fair that the responsibility for doing it falls upon the winner of the primary or convention, but there really is no alternative.

After WWII, the winner, that is the allies led by the US and Great Britain, had the responsibility to unite the countries that lost that war as well as the countries that had been invaded, Italy, Germany, Spain and Austria, France, the Netherlands, etc. behind the winners that had not been invaded.

We succeeded in that task, but it took a lot of generosity and good will to do it.

Generosity and good will -- the secret traits that allow winners to unite the losers behind the winner.

Apparently there was not enough generosity and good will toward the many, many Democrats who did not vote for Hillary in 2016.

There is still too much anger and hatred, too much focus on having lost. We do need to win this year. The future of our democracy depends on our winning in November.

Time to put the anger behind us and unite the Party around good candidates, candidates we can trust.

Anger at other Democrats or liberals if you will is divisive. It blames. It divides. It loses elections.

We need to change our view on why we lost in 2016 and unite.

Blaming does not unite our Party.

Let's remember why we are Democrats, what we stand for and be proud and united. Forget the blaming about the past. It's over and done with. We can't change it.

Make that "call." Reach out and care about someone who did not vote for your candidate in 2016.

Many here do not agree with Christianity. I respect that. I understand that. But the way that the Christian churches constructed and maintain themselves is uniting behind the common value of caring. Unity is strength.

As long as many Democrats are blackballed and not viewed as Democrats but as troublemakers, the Democratic Party will not be able to unite. So we have to change and unite ourselves with others who may have slightly different opinions than we have. So be it. Amen.

FFS!!!!!! The US will be over with any hint of a democracy or civil rights. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #1
NOTHING that happens in November changes this either. Impeachment, etc. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #2
If I were in my youth, I would be leaving this place. I think the future for the US is RKP5637 Mar 2018 #4
I regularly have that discussion with my 20 year old daughter exboyfil Mar 2018 #14
Yep, it's very smart to consider all of the options in other countries. It's hard to tell where the RKP5637 Mar 2018 #25
Other countries have their resurgent right wings also. Hortensis Mar 2018 #77
Living in Florida you have a point. But is it better educational systems? Oppaloopa Mar 2018 #98
:) No. Chicken and egg. Better educational systems Hortensis Mar 2018 #102
Interesting - I recommend choosing a nation with a cooler climate like Canada. RKP5637 Mar 2018 #100
Take a look at the southern and southwestern states. Hortensis Mar 2018 #108
It's a very interesting observation! Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #109
In colder climates the people have to work together to survive. When it is warmer individualism LiberalArkie Mar 2018 #155
I was just reading that there are a lot of opportunities for RNs in Mexico. Queen of the Iceni Mar 2018 #118
Spanish is one of the easiest languages for an English speaker to learn... pangaia Mar 2018 #132
What this could mean makes me feel sick. Hortensis Mar 2018 #3
I agree with this genxlib Mar 2018 #20
I think that last might just be. There are true believers Hortensis Mar 2018 #65
The religious right is showing now that it is more right than religious. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #94
I can't disagree with you on that for sure genxlib Mar 2018 #96
Abortion is a health issue. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #35
I put it "out there" for discussion. You are presenting Hortensis Mar 2018 #72
Another pregnancy carried to term would have been a death sentence for me. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #93
As I said. Your position is entirely stated in 5 words. Hortensis Mar 2018 #97
I repeat. Abortion prohibitions are death sentences for a certain number of women. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #99
They're already attacking birth control. Mariana Mar 2018 #146
It's by and large not about babies and the unborn. Ligyron Mar 2018 #101
I would venture to say it could be about many things even to same person nolabels Mar 2018 #152
Well yes. Because anything was better than President Hillary Clinton. Wwcd Mar 2018 #5
Yep, but her emails! And insert various JPR Wharrgarbl here stevenleser Mar 2018 #126
Yep. Matt_R Mar 2018 #159
It means the absolute end of the great American experiment. sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #6
Good grief. Some virtual worms to go eat, maybe? Hortensis Mar 2018 #79
I have never missed a national election in the last 50 years. I do not sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #124
As opposed to the ugly sentiments that it's all hopeless? mythology Mar 2018 #142
I can express as many sentiments that the USA as a democracy is sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #145
It's hard not to feel like this would be the nail in the coffin. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #7
Kennedy hired four clerks for the Fall term. Dawson Leery Mar 2018 #8
Hope so. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #11
When Barack Obama was the candidate, Democrats came out and voted for him. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #59
Righteous rant! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #85
Thanks. We cannot win if we are divided. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #91
It will in all likelyhood be too late next time which is the entire point...these folks can fuck off Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #110
I hope those who refused to be 'united' and vote for the only one who could stop Trump...take the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #107
Thanks for that! lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #12
He always was more conservative than liberal exboyfil Mar 2018 #22
I think its the opposite. mr_liberal Mar 2018 #30
Going forward whoever controls exboyfil Mar 2018 #36
I doubt the democrats could hold out more than a year. mr_liberal Mar 2018 #47
I don't think anyone should count on Trump to Hortensis Mar 2018 #80
Isn't he the "swing" vote who's leaned more right anyway? brush Mar 2018 #23
No, he's liberal on social issues. He's the 5th vote that upholds Roe v Wade, for gay rights... nm mr_liberal Mar 2018 #32
He's not called the "swing" vote for nothing. He's been swinging more right than left lately. brush Mar 2018 #106
with him gone...Womens rights, gay rights and a host of other important issues are Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #111
I don't want him gone because of who will replace him but I wish he swing left more... brush Mar 2018 #115
Oh for sure... I agree. But right now, he is all we have to stop the GOP train. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #143
Most of the legal blogs believe that Justice Kennedy is not retiring in July Gothmog Mar 2018 #81
+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2018 #84
Do the leftists purists get it now? nycbos Mar 2018 #9
I hope center-right purists will be able to start seeing beyond resentment and start lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #16
what are you talking about? getagrip_already Mar 2018 #46
I am a very progressive person. nycbos Mar 2018 #76
Two types of capital-P Progressives, neither purists. Hortensis Mar 2018 #86
There is no such thing as a center right purist...the pure movement is on the left. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #112
Oh there most certainly is melman Mar 2018 #134
No there isn't...and the pure movement has cost us big policy going back to 2000 ...94 Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #140
you're right.... tomp Mar 2018 #138
I am progressive. I would love to run 'pure' in all states. But I challenge you to examine all Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #141
more rationalization for centrism. tomp Mar 2018 #144
Trump is an extinction level event...existential threat to the USA as we know it. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #10
The next Democratic president should expand the Supreme Court dalton99a Mar 2018 #13
FDR tried that in 1937. It didn't end well. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #26
That is never going to happen...not ever. We will be stuck with a right wing court for years. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #113
The right is throwing this out to energize the base for the midterm MattP Mar 2018 #15
This rumor has been out there for months and months. beaglelover Mar 2018 #17
Let's hope that is all it is. Let's also make sure we DONT make the SAME mistakes that Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #18
Agree. GOTV this November and November 2020. beaglelover Mar 2018 #19
Thanks, yes. GOTV and stop with the fucking NOSE holding when a democratic politician Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #21
GOTV mean little if votes are not counted honestly. tomp Mar 2018 #139
the rumor will always be there until it actually happens pstokely Mar 2018 #56
Yep, America will turn Corgigal Mar 2018 #24
STOP! Ginsburg, Kennedy hire law clerks for future Supreme Court terms. elleng Mar 2018 #27
Heller is likely gone. Dawson Leery Mar 2018 #29
The only way it would work though is if it actually happens. nm mr_liberal Mar 2018 #34
Exactly! Chill its just Heller throwing a Hail Mary. Pepsidog Mar 2018 #83
Agreed. Heller is "Most Endangered Senator" (R) 2018; he's desperate stuffmatters Mar 2018 #130
While your assessment may be correct, the fact is that none of them are particularly young, and still_one Mar 2018 #38
+1 demmiblue Mar 2018 #127
Repug senator tries to fire up the base by saying louis-t Mar 2018 #28
That's right Eiot, and why I will NEVER forgive those self-identified progressives who refused to still_one Mar 2018 #31
Hell, I will go one step further, I want an apology from the ones who DID vote for her Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #33
Let's not let this rumor create opportunities for people to revisit the 2016 election... Chakaconcarne Mar 2018 #37
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. MoonRiver Mar 2018 #40
Shh, dont discuss how certain folks put us here in the first place, shhhh Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #43
Sorry...it's simply not productive.. Chakaconcarne Mar 2018 #69
No, far too many don't. nt stevenleser Mar 2018 #125
In my case I identify those who have an agenda here and I refuse to respond to them. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #70
Yes, I know what you mean. MoonRiver Mar 2018 #71
Wasn't he also supposed to retire last summer? NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #39
Since this is the last year of Trump's presidency IronLionZion Mar 2018 #41
Can they find someone worse than gorsuch? mountain grammy Mar 2018 #42
The Republicans stoled the election and 2 Supreme Court justices njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #44
And to all those purists that said they wouldnt vote for Hillary Thekaspervote Mar 2018 #45
and the ones who finally did vote for her after telling anyone who would listen how corrupt she was Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #48
If true, that's the end of the country as we know it. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #49
I'd bet everything I have that you are wrong. SomethingNew Mar 2018 #103
LOL. That's funny. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #122
How so? SomethingNew Mar 2018 #123
Perhaps... the "rumor" is being floated out there to bolster rethugs' resolve. Texin Mar 2018 #50
I wont bring it up again, but I mainly wanted to make the larger point that we didnt need Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #53
We need a new system. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #51
Um, no. n/t MichMary Mar 2018 #64
Why not? smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #66
As a "for instance," MichMary Mar 2018 #73
Ok, I guess that makes sense. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #89
That's why elections matter MichMary Mar 2018 #90
Tried to tell folks what was at stake... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #52
The Democrats should immediately state ... aggiesal Mar 2018 #54
That won't work. mr_liberal Mar 2018 #74
Don't rain on my parade. n/t aggiesal Mar 2018 #82
There is some hope.... mr_liberal Mar 2018 #87
filibuster would be gone either way InformedElitist Mar 2018 #149
Yes, it would have worked mr_liberal Mar 2018 #153
NO!!!!! lark Mar 2018 #55
We should pull a McConnell and let the next president pick the SCOTUS justice. Initech Mar 2018 #57
So anyone who says ONE WORD about purity, who could interfere with taking over the House or Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #58
Call it what it is. cab67 Mar 2018 #67
Better still would be if the SCOTUS hadn't installed Bush. LisaM Mar 2018 #60
You don't think Mitch had anything to do with ornotna Mar 2018 #61
I am not refighting the primary, you seem to be doing that though Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #63
never mind ornotna Mar 2018 #151
JESUS.... rtracey Mar 2018 #62
We are FUCKED if Kennedy retires while Trump is president. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #68
I do not think he is going to retire this year. Who knows about next. Exotica Mar 2018 #137
Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #150
OK, breathe. ananda Mar 2018 #75
YES Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #78
So many people on DU are still smoking what the russian trolls were/are selling. n/t woundedkarma Mar 2018 #88
Oh brother... calimary Mar 2018 #92
I will vote for Beto for U.S. Senate this fall, and the entire Democratic ticket as usual DFW Mar 2018 #95
But... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #104
Yeah...of course they elected someone that gave millions of taxpayer money essentially to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #114
We tried to warn them. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #105
I think the next President should be allowed to appoint a SC Justice world wide wally Mar 2018 #116
What a drag. nt bondwooley Mar 2018 #117
Unfortunate/disturbing. trump will get at least this one, and one or two other nominations. Hoyt Mar 2018 #119
Exactly, how and why all of a sudden did Hillary not get close to her polling? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #121
Agree. For some reason I was not aware we disagree on guns, but I am easily Hoyt Mar 2018 #131
Want to be Republicans replace him in six weeks flat. They don't care that they applegrove Mar 2018 #120
lets preparet to hear this song from trumps xtian soliders.. DonCoquixote Mar 2018 #128
2018 becomes even more critical, especially in the Senate where the majority party in the Senate can still_one Mar 2018 #129
Garbage thread melman Mar 2018 #133
Why would any thinking person give a grain of credence to anything Heller says? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #135
Sam Seder on MSNBC DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #136
The would not be good timing. If there's anything that gets the GOP base out, it's Nitram Mar 2018 #147
I wish we could convince him to stay until January AllyCat Mar 2018 #148
A rumor by a GOP Senator is merely wishful thinking DesertRat Mar 2018 #154
You are correct DesertRat 40RatRod Mar 2018 #157
Stolen Supreme Court Seat #2 bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #156
God forbid diane in sf Mar 2018 #158
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