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ollie10

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69. I think you were missing my point
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:59 PM
Mar 2018

We have to pick up seats that are currently R if we want to gain control of Congress.

In these seats, Pelosi is an anchor, not a sail

Politicians have had their come-to-jesus moment before Lint Head Mar 2018 #1
Yes. This. dameatball Mar 2018 #81
It is also age-ist, but we need new blood.... ollie10 Mar 2018 #2
The other side of that coin is -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #7
We need someone new at the helm. Pelosi is old school and old news. Time for CHANGE. LBM20 Mar 2018 #15
What specific changes are you hoping for? LanternWaste Mar 2018 #45
Ad hominum attacks are unnecessary and marybourg Mar 2018 #78
Frankly this isn't about age titaniumsalute Mar 2018 #100
Who? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #145
Just no.....this is not the time to experiment with unknowns BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #182
she would not win if she ran in lamb's district ollie10 Mar 2018 #46
Pelosi didn't need to win PA-18 Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #60
I think you were missing my point ollie10 Mar 2018 #69
didn't miss it; don't agree with it Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #73
Lamb won by less than 1000 votes ollie10 Mar 2018 #77
Lamb did not run in CA Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #83
I think the issue was whether would endorse Pelosi for SPEAKER ollie10 Mar 2018 #95
I get that you don't like Pelosi Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #97
so you are trying to silence me? ollie10 Mar 2018 #106
I did not Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #183
Denial ollie10 Mar 2018 #190
Why would a candidate "endorse" an already elected official from another state mcar Mar 2018 #89
No speaker will win in districts. they are hated by the other side...thus Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #109
you are apparently unaware of just how strong the anti-Pelosi thing is out there in the real world ollie10 Mar 2018 #114
Shes one of the most liberal voices we have, and her constituents keep voting for her emulatorloo Mar 2018 #9
Sounds like you enjoy losing elections and don't want to be a big tent national party.Goody for you. LBM20 Mar 2018 #13
Did you mean to address your post to me? emulatorloo Mar 2018 #16
We just won... first of all so maybe you should consider your words more carefully. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #117
We need to win ollie10 Mar 2018 #23
And You Don't Get Anything Done Me. Mar 2018 #115
how old does she have to be before we want to develop new leadership? ollie10 Mar 2018 #138
Why Is Age The Qualifier Me. Mar 2018 #156
My problem is I don't like 29% approval ratings and I don't like D losses ollie10 Mar 2018 #160
So Nancy Is Solely Responsible For The Dems Approval Rating? Me. Mar 2018 #168
I was not talking about D rstings. 29% is Pelosi' ollie10 Mar 2018 #169
So Let's See, The Cons Made Nancy The PUnching Bag In The Lamb Race Me. Mar 2018 #170
Lamb said he would not vote for pelosi ollie10 Mar 2018 #171
Of Course He Did Me. Mar 2018 #173
She's at 29% ollie10 Mar 2018 #175
Why Would I Me. Mar 2018 #180
He won. And he refused to endorse her. The two facts are related. ollie10 Mar 2018 #191
Like I Said Me. Mar 2018 #192
I am not being snarky here, I would like to know who you think would make a good Speaker Exotica Mar 2018 #185
Let the caucus decide ollie10 Mar 2018 #186
do you think Obama would go for it? Exotica Mar 2018 #187
But isn't your comment also ageist? pandr32 Mar 2018 #41
Sure it is age-ist and I collect social security so I am no spring chicken ollie10 Mar 2018 #44
I am glad you admit it is pandr32 Mar 2018 #57
The Rs would love nothing more than for Pelosi to be their target ollie10 Mar 2018 #66
let 'em Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #74
No. I just don't want to make their job any easier ollie10 Mar 2018 #79
Perhaps you are wrong pandr32 Mar 2018 #91
Me either pandr32 Mar 2018 #87
You win by playing smart ollie10 Mar 2018 #178
I like Pelosi. We won. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #181
In 2010 we lost ollie10 Mar 2018 #184
They will slam whoever is in her spot pandr32 Mar 2018 #86
we would be more effective if we had somebody else ollie10 Mar 2018 #92
your hypothesis is unproven Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #96
we don't have to say who is going to be speaker ollie10 Mar 2018 #105
I completely disagree pandr32 Mar 2018 #107
do you have something against developing new leadership? ollie10 Mar 2018 #111
What a strange argument pandr32 Mar 2018 #146
You too ollie10 Mar 2018 #149
So....we hide our candidates because the GOP will attack them. bettyellen Mar 2018 #116
it is a house election ollie10 Mar 2018 #125
We don't have to hide them bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #126
Why not simply trust the caucus? ollie10 Mar 2018 #179
No secret voting pandr32 Mar 2018 #202
I was referring to the caucus in the house.... ollie10 Mar 2018 #203
Okay. They have a secret ballot at least. pandr32 Mar 2018 #204
Fair enough! ollie10 Mar 2018 #205
Sounds like you are not only ceding the narrative to the republicans Eko Mar 2018 #177
I doubt Pelosi gives a shit. She has a thick skin emulatorloo Mar 2018 #3
Excellent post. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #11
He could call her a 3 legged duck with the brains of a 5 legged giraffe, as long as he wins Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #76
Hat's off to you! pandr32 Mar 2018 #94
IMPORTANT QUESTION: You couldn't - possibly - let us have one day to be glad? Glorfindel Mar 2018 #4
I'm sorry -- it's been bothering me for quite a while RandomAccess Mar 2018 #10
It bothered all of us too njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #104
Remember, Saccone Used That As An Attack Point ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #5
Yes, I know -- and specified same RandomAccess Mar 2018 #8
It had to be done. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #6
Why is she vastly unpopular? One reason and one reason only RandomAccess Mar 2018 #14
She is a Pacific coast liberal, old school establishment, and does not play in red-leaning areas. LBM20 Mar 2018 #20
This is fucking stupid. alarimer Mar 2018 #28
Not to mention that she is from Baltimore DFW Mar 2018 #144
I think some would rather be pure and whine when they lose..... ollie10 Mar 2018 #29
I think some are being unnecessarily divisive and I have to wonder why...who cares Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #113
let's not be devisive, let's all support the new generation of Democratic leadership ollie10 Mar 2018 #118
OH NO A Loss Me. Mar 2018 #193
Lamb won. Lamb refused to endorse Pelosi. Do you oppose Lamb? ollie10 Mar 2018 #194
Such Silliness On Your Part Me. Mar 2018 #196
Don't want to answer the questions I see ollie10 Mar 2018 #198
Again Such Silliness Me. Mar 2018 #199
OK. Have a good day ollie10 Mar 2018 #200
I Intend To Me. Mar 2018 #201
I like how left liberals are Quote ESTABLISHMENT UnQuote here at DU emulatorloo Mar 2018 #30
Yes, we are, which is why we find this regurgitation of GOP talking points troubling. Ninsianna Mar 2018 #37
Well said emulatorloo Mar 2018 #67
In Winning At All Odds... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #153
So are you arguing that it is a good thing that we have a leader that is demonized? ollie10 Mar 2018 #26
WHAT??? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #32
Doesnt matter who our leadership is. GOP propagandists will lie about and demonize them n/t emulatorloo Mar 2018 #72
true enough. all the more reason to not give them an easy target ollie10 Mar 2018 #75
They will make anyone the target...they will find something. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #120
last night did not support your hypothesis ollie10 Mar 2018 #128
So you're saying that the only reason people voted for Lamb is because he shunned Pelosi? chowder66 Mar 2018 #154
No I am not saying that.....but nice straw man!!! ollie10 Mar 2018 #159
It wasn't meant to be a straw man if you cared to ask. chowder66 Mar 2018 #174
If there was a better reason Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #148
If she, at 29% approval, makes it difficult to get the house majority, she won't get to serve either ollie10 Mar 2018 #150
Here's how he could have handled it -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #98
Pelosi is toxic in that district and others. It wasn't personal, and YES, it is time for NEW BLOOD. LBM20 Mar 2018 #12
No...we keep our experienced leader to fight Trump ...so forget it. And the right will hate Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #127
Conor Lamb (and Seth Moulton) are the future of this party. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2018 #17
Ugh RandomAccess Mar 2018 #21
I certainly hope not. alarimer Mar 2018 #35
I think Lamb is a Seth Moulton guy who is a Tim Ryan guy. They are of a contingent seaglass Mar 2018 #18
Me either. RandomAccess Mar 2018 #19
I do because we need new blood. It isn't personal, but the party has been smashed to pieces all over LBM20 Mar 2018 #22
I totally disagree. babylonsister Mar 2018 #27
I don't think the issue is whether the Rs like her ollie10 Mar 2018 #40
Had her turn? MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #31
She isnt in the Senate. Agschmid Mar 2018 #51
Sorry, you are right. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #59
Weird that your complaints are personal and gender based. Ninsianna Mar 2018 #42
+1 RandomAccess Mar 2018 #52
The leadership was not to blame for 16. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #131
Beyond asinine to associate 16 with any democrat, this is height of bashing after all the evidence uponit7771 Mar 2018 #163
Now is NOT the time for this jberryhill Mar 2018 #24
Exactly n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #34
Why not? And when IS the right time? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #50
Context Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #56
You know, Tom RandomAccess Mar 2018 #63
Yes, "calls for unity" are sometimes used as a weapon against the growth of same Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #65
Good. I'll look for your calls for unity RandomAccess Mar 2018 #93
You mean like on the one some might say was started to trash me? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #123
I have no idea what you're referring to -- should I? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #134
Well I will leave you a link to a thread I recently started Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #141
I'm sorry, Tom RandomAccess Mar 2018 #142
No, no, absolutely not. I have no complaint toward you whatsoever Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #143
I don't understand how Pelosi became such a lightning rod for the right. alarimer Mar 2018 #25
All they have to do is start demonizing and voila! Rightwing lightning rod RandomAccess Mar 2018 #33
When will some supposedly on are side stop letting the GOP call the tune...seriously, we need to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #137
That's the way I feel about it -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #139
They will hate any speaker we choose...and they tolerated a damned child Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #189
Not to mention Roy Moore RandomAccess Mar 2018 #195
Very true...and some only tolerate Trump and voted for him in order to get Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #197
Their kind of politics needs a scapegoat Orange Free State Mar 2018 #36
She was very effective, and that's their whole problem. n/t LisaM Mar 2018 #38
+1 on only right-wing house Democrats want Pelosi out emulatorloo Mar 2018 #39
Lamb needs to represent HIS constituents. Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #43
Notice, that's NOT what I addressed RandomAccess Mar 2018 #48
To repeat myself RE: his campaign. Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #58
Sorry, I don't understand you. Presumably how he waged his campaign was how he won. Demit Mar 2018 #64
No -- here's how he could have handled it RandomAccess Mar 2018 #101
I'm not going in search of your answer, thanks. Demit Mar 2018 #124
You're kidding, right? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #129
Sure. I would if you made one. Demit Mar 2018 #155
His opposition to Pelosi as House Minority or Majority leader is because the right wing ideology still_one Mar 2018 #47
Oh, I "understand" it just fine -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #49
Pelosi has been a GOP boogie woman crazycatlady Mar 2018 #53
He doesn't need to be a leader. He is not running for president JI7 Mar 2018 #54
If you let them whack Nancy, they'll demonize someone else for the next round dalton99a Mar 2018 #55
It was his only choice. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #61
I'm fine with Conor Lamb dalton99a Mar 2018 #62
a much better choice: RandomAccess Mar 2018 #102
That's a good way of straddling a fine line, but it still embraces her too much. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #119
Exactly RandomAccess Mar 2018 #70
Like any effective Speaker/Minority Leader romana Mar 2018 #68
Well said. RandomAccess Mar 2018 #71
Quite Me. Mar 2018 #122
+1. Jonathan Alter, who I usually like, was on his anti-Pelosi high horse last night. The argument Tarheel_Dem Mar 2018 #172
he beat them at their own game Skittles Mar 2018 #80
No, not at all. He surrendered to their game RandomAccess Mar 2018 #103
no, he took away their talking point Skittles Mar 2018 #147
We're up against the right wing hate machine. Turbineguy Mar 2018 #82
Right, he capitulated to it. RandomAccess Mar 2018 #88
I imagine he will quickly learn how effective she is mcar Mar 2018 #84
I posted this in that other thread mcar Mar 2018 #85
What ELSE he could have said -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #90
A good addition! mcar Mar 2018 #99
Would have been a good effort, but it wouldn't have worked. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #110
Maybe so, maybe not mcar Mar 2018 #133
Unimportant, the GOP was trying to paint him as a Nancy Pelosi Democrat...super liberal... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #108
There was another, BETTER way to handle it -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #112
I agree with your points but also think it likely EffieBlack Mar 2018 #121
Nancy doesn't give a flying fuck what Conor had to do to get elected. We are fighting Nazis here. MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #130
+++++1000 and if I neglected to welcome you...let me fix that...Welcome. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #136
Thank you! That's quite a nice welcome! MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #162
Belated but heartfelt. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #188
I'm pretty sure you got that right.. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #157
Me, too. Unlike Trump, Pelosi knows it's not about her. She's got a job to do for the people MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #164
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2018 #165
I agree. I think the party has bernie-itis where we pretend infighting is as important as Corvo Bianco Mar 2018 #132
first things first Timewas Mar 2018 #135
He hasn't yet worked with Pelosi. He will. DFW Mar 2018 #151
Exactly! mountain grammy Mar 2018 #158
+1 RandomAccess Mar 2018 #166
Nancy has been Targeted by the Same Misogynistic Trolls as Hillary dlk Mar 2018 #152
Unfortunately, too true RandomAccess Mar 2018 #167
It is definitely a matter for discussion. kentuck Mar 2018 #161
Bothers me too, but I file it under "LFT" Sparkly Mar 2018 #176
I am going to steal that. Sorry MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #206
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